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NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:08 AM May 2016

Sanders says Clinton’s email situation has changed

"Months after telling Hillary Clinton that Americans were “sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails,” Bernie Sanders may be changing his mind.

Interviewed Friday on “Real Time with Bill Maher” on HBO, Sanders was asked if the furor over Clinton’s use of a private email server as secretary of state had become large enough for the Vermont senator to reconsider his refusal to engage Clinton on the issue.

“It has,” he said. “But this is what I also think: There is an enormous frustration on the part of the American people.”

The State Department’s inspector general found in a report released this past week that the email setup violated department rules, that Clinton never sought permission for it, and that the proposal would have been rejected if she had. The report handed Clinton’s Republican opponents a fresh line of attack — and Sanders, too, if he chose to take it. Clinton’s competitor for the Democratic presidential nomination won praise at a candidates’ debate on October when he said, “Enough of the emails. Let’s talk about the real issues facing America.” At the time, his campaign used the comments in a fund-raising email.

Seven months later, the delegates to be chosen June 7 in California and five other state nominating contests represent a last-ditch effort to close the gap with Clinton before the Democratic convention in July. Clinton holds a nearly insurmountable lead in pledged delegates, and is far ahead in popular votes. But a strong performance in California could boost Sanders’ case that superdelegates — party leaders and elected officials not bound to any candidate — should switch their allegiance to him on the basis of perceived electability against Republican Donald Trump."


http://www.columbian.com/news/2016/may/28/sanders-says-clintons-email-situation-has-changed/

That OIG audit changed everything and officially validated Hillary failures at the State Dept.

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Sanders says Clinton’s email situation has changed (Original Post) NWCorona May 2016 OP
The only thing that's changed for Sanders is that time and pledged delegates are quickly running Trust Buster May 2016 #1
Actually it's Hillary that should be worrying. NWCorona May 2016 #4
She's not worried. She has pivoted to Trump and preparing to take the convention stage. Trust Buster May 2016 #5
And trump is ignoring her and she can't shake Bernie. NWCorona May 2016 #10
Trump isn't ignoring her at all. He talks about her at every appearance he makes. Do you just post Trust Buster May 2016 #18
That's not what I mean. That's his standard talk NWCorona May 2016 #22
Sure, whatever you say.....LOL Trust Buster May 2016 #34
are you taking up for Trump? nt asuhornets May 2016 #62
Of course, Trump is the new Bernie KingFlorez May 2016 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author wendylaroux May 2016 #9
The author of the op perhaps ? The quote at the top of op is all Sanders said about the matter. CentralMass May 2016 #41
What an ironic username you have. intheflow May 2016 #24
The op is disingenuous. The quote at the top of it is all that Bernie had to say on the matter. CentralMass May 2016 #30
If The SD's Have ANY Perception Of The Multiple Vectors Of RISK Associated With Hillary As The Party CorporatistNation May 2016 #61
He's right. And he's not alone in saltpoint May 2016 #2
She has to do something democrattotheend May 2016 #57
I have a feeling you're not the only one. saltpoint May 2016 #58
it certainly has changed; IG report has made it blatantly obvious she has been lying 4 past year amborin May 2016 #3
now, you know she can't be bothered with little things! Stevens/Smith ... close enough! Hiraeth May 2016 #8
No, it made it blatantly obvious that the problem was institutional TwilightZone May 2016 #40
If you've watched the video, you also need to add that Bernie then stated that what the floriduck May 2016 #6
Good Point Ferd Berfel May 2016 #11
Did I say that? I didn't embellish any of Bernie’s words. NWCorona May 2016 #12
I just wanted to make sure nobody read into it that Bernie is now focused on the emails. floriduck May 2016 #19
Your quote at the top was all Sanders said about the matter. CentralMass May 2016 #42
I didn't imply anything I posted an article. NWCorona May 2016 #43
Yet the replies indicate that those replying belive he slammed hillary in that interview . CentralMass May 2016 #44
thank you. I think this articles was intended to stir up dana_b May 2016 #28
My pleasure, dana_b. floriduck May 2016 #31
Yes, I do not see Bernie using this against her - he just does jwirr May 2016 #51
Yes, the OP can be misleading for those who only saw the limited quote Martin Eden May 2016 #59
Why is Bernie acting this way? Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #7
That's your opinion. NWCorona May 2016 #14
No. It's not an opinion. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #21
You have an odd definition of facts. NWCorona May 2016 #23
It is reality Demsrule86 May 2016 #33
No. He could win. He is holding large bash hillary rallies Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #47
Bash Hillary rallies making everyone who loves her hate her? XemaSab May 2016 #50
He isn't. Maher asked the question he took the high road CentralMass May 2016 #46
That's correct. The sum total was two words: "It has." Martin Eden May 2016 #60
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #13
I think you are reading something that's not there. NWCorona May 2016 #15
I don't think you watched the video n/t dana_b May 2016 #29
Sander is just a a bad Demsrule86 May 2016 #36
However, Sanders passed on the question in Maher's interview CentralMass May 2016 #45
Come on Bernie... she didn't break any LAWS! She only broke RULES. There's a difference. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #16
LOL B Calm May 2016 #20
Rules and Laws are for little people, so she really never did anything wrong. bahrbearian May 2016 #25
If you believe that lmbradford May 2016 #52
Simple, really... chervilant May 2016 #17
She is very qualified Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #27
It's not just a partisan witch hunt anymore n/t Tom Rinaldo May 2016 #26
Sure it is Demsrule86 May 2016 #38
That report wasn't issued from inside of the Romney adminitration Tom Rinaldo May 2016 #48
Bernie's actually words can be found here. He said nothing about the email scandal. CentralMass May 2016 #32
lol...saying it don't make it so....besides sanders and wife jane need to stop dodging beachbum bob May 2016 #35
Sanders did not say it. Maher did. The Sanders quote at the top was all he said. CentralMass May 2016 #39
Sanders: Voters should take a "hard look" at Clinton emails report Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #37
What is frustrating is being held hostage felix_numinous May 2016 #49
Completely agree, good post - eom dreamnightwind May 2016 #54
Still don't care about personal emails; FOIA requests and a private server, etc., etc., Babel_17 May 2016 #53
Well the status has changed. The investigators are now reporting. HereSince1628 May 2016 #55
1) Two people have been cut deals. Probably for testimony. Ash_F May 2016 #56
 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
1. The only thing that's changed for Sanders is that time and pledged delegates are quickly running
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:10 AM
May 2016

short. This guy is such a shameless opportunist.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
18. Trump isn't ignoring her at all. He talks about her at every appearance he makes. Do you just post
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:22 AM
May 2016

stuff just to post stuff ?

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
22. That's not what I mean. That's his standard talk
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:32 AM
May 2016

Hillary is trying to goat trump and he's not biting.

Response to Trust Buster (Reply #1)

intheflow

(28,451 posts)
24. What an ironic username you have.
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:34 AM
May 2016

Describes your candidate of choice to a T, though not in an Teddy Roosevelt kind of way.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
30. The op is disingenuous. The quote at the top of it is all that Bernie had to say on the matter.
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:39 AM
May 2016

He took the high road when Maher asked the question. The rest of the op is news quotes on the investigation, not words that came out of the Senators mouth.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
61. If The SD's Have ANY Perception Of The Multiple Vectors Of RISK Associated With Hillary As The Party
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:18 AM
May 2016

Nominee... Then they WILL Think TWICE before handing Hillary the keys to the "car."

MSNBC To the deniers... Watch THIS Video... It is not comforting to think that she may well be the Democratic Nominee...

Hillary really betrayed Andrea Mitchell... The entire context of this report was of a solemn nature... A Funeral so to speak...

Andrea Mitchell "I do not see this report as ...ANYTHING BUT... DEVASTATING!"

Chuck Todd "After this I don't think that she could get confirmed for Attorney General!"

Lots of FIBBING by Hillary here.. for more than a year!

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
2. He's right. And he's not alone in
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:11 AM
May 2016

thinking so.

Perhaps Hillary would like to call a major press conference and field questions about her lying about the private server.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
57. She has to do something
Sun May 29, 2016, 07:46 PM
May 2016

I don't expect her to be indicted, and I don't even think what she did is all that terrible. But she has not done a very good job of handling it, and I am very scared that it could lead to a President Trump if she doesn't put it to bed.

I was at the point where I had accepted that she was probably going to be the nominee and I was and still am prepared to support her in the general election. But as someone who very much wants her to win if she is the nominee, I am very concerned about this crippling her and costing us the election.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
58. I have a feeling you're not the only one.
Sun May 29, 2016, 07:47 PM
May 2016

Trump must be defeated at the polls. But to do that now we need a strong, clean ticket.

Each day of this email stench is bringing our odds down.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
3. it certainly has changed; IG report has made it blatantly obvious she has been lying 4 past year
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:12 AM
May 2016

in your face lies about incredibly important national security issues

and-----she got the name of the murdered ambassador wrong!!!!!!!

She referred to him as Chris Smith; his name is Chris Stevens

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
6. If you've watched the video, you also need to add that Bernie then stated that what the
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:16 AM
May 2016

American people care about are all the economic topics he's addressed for years. His comment in response to the email situation was just an acknowledgment to move on to policy issues.

So, if you are stressing some dubious Bernie attack on the email mess, you are flatly mistaken. Watch the video if you want to challenge me.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
12. Did I say that? I didn't embellish any of Bernie’s words.
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:19 AM
May 2016

He's right. This is Hillary's problem not the American people's problem. We will survive this scandal.

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
19. I just wanted to make sure nobody read into it that Bernie is now focused on the emails.
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:23 AM
May 2016

Apparently that's just how the Tavi Jackson post took it below.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
42. Your quote at the top was all Sanders said about the matter.
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:52 AM
May 2016

The rest of your op is the sighting of news articles about the investigation. You imply that Sanders spoke these things about it.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
44. Yet the replies indicate that those replying belive he slammed hillary in that interview .
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:00 PM
May 2016

Sanders avoided the question completely but your op implies otherwise.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
28. thank you. I think this articles was intended to stir up
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:37 AM
May 2016

pro Hillary people and have them attack Bernie for something he HAS NOT done and more than likely will NOT do! Argh!

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
51. Yes, I do not see Bernie using this against her - he just does
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:29 PM
May 2016

not play that way.

On the other hand he acknowledges that things have changed. Back then it was a R investigation today it is State and the FBI. Now it is serious.

Martin Eden

(12,858 posts)
59. Yes, the OP can be misleading for those who only saw the limited quote
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:12 AM
May 2016

I'm referring to the following in the OP:

“It has,” he said. “But this is what I also think: There is an enormous frustration on the part of the American people.”

What's left out is that Bernie immediately identified that "frustration" as related to economic disparity. He was given an opportunity to attack Hillary on the email scandal, but instead talked about economic policy issues.
 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
7. Why is Bernie acting this way?
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:17 AM
May 2016

He has ZERO chance of being the nominee.. So why? Superdelegates will not flip especially since he is going after the DNC too. He is just helping Trump at this point.

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
33. It is reality
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:43 AM
May 2016

Bernie will probably lose California after suing everyone and attacking both Boxer and Feinstein.

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
47. No. He could win. He is holding large bash hillary rallies
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:17 PM
May 2016

making people who normally love her now hate her. He is playing a dangerous game.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
50. Bash Hillary rallies making everyone who loves her hate her?
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:19 PM
May 2016

Because we owe her our adoration?

I haven't been a Hillary fan since watching her run an ugly, racist campaign in 2008.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
46. He isn't. Maher asked the question he took the high road
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:10 PM
May 2016

The sum total of what bernie said on the matter in the Maher interview is the direct quote at the top of the op. Period. I have posted a link to the interview upstream. Watch it for yourself

Martin Eden

(12,858 posts)
60. That's correct. The sum total was two words: "It has."
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:14 AM
May 2016

In the 2nd part of the quote in the OP about voter "frustration" Bernie was talking about economic issues, not the email scandal.

Response to NWCorona (Original post)

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
15. I think you are reading something that's not there.
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:21 AM
May 2016

He's not hitching to this scandal. Just speaking the truth.

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
36. Sander is just a a bad
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:44 AM
May 2016

guy who cares only for himself...he doesn't care if he helps Trump and pretty much ruins the progressive movement ...after all he counts right? what is it people used to call those who acted this way? Legend in his own mind. Well he comes off as desperate and somewhat pathetic. He looks lost these days...

lmbradford

(517 posts)
52. If you believe that
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:48 PM
May 2016

You should put your ss# and bank acct# on an unsecure server with no password and have it sitting in a house with random guards, servants, aids, and a lot of random people for get togethers. If that disturbs you, now add the names of secret agents and top secret military ops and now you see reality.

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
38. Sure it is
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:46 AM
May 2016

With a few foolish Bernie supporters all in...but 7 days folks until California...very large lady warming up to help sing Bernie back to Vermont and the Senate if they will have him.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
48. That report wasn't issued from inside of the Romney adminitration
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:14 PM
May 2016

That was my limited point. Turn it into an attack on Sanders supporters all you want, but my comment is correct and why it has become harder to spin.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
35. lol...saying it don't make it so....besides sanders and wife jane need to stop dodging
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:43 AM
May 2016

the questions that they need to answer...can't be a paragon of virtue and keep hiding

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
37. Sanders: Voters should take a "hard look" at Clinton emails report
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:45 AM
May 2016

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders said in an interview airing Sunday that voters will need to take a "hard look" at the State Department audit criticizing Clinton for her use of a private email server, but stopped short of going after her directly for it.

"The Inspector General just came out with a report, it was not a good report for Secretary Clinton. That is something that the American people, Democrats and delegates are going to have to take a hard look at," he said. "But for me right now, I continue to focus on how we can rebuild a disappearing middle class, deal with poverty, guarantee health care to all of our people as a right."





http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie-sanders-voters-should-take-a-hard-look-at-clinton-emails-report/

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
49. What is frustrating is being held hostage
Sun May 29, 2016, 01:18 PM
May 2016

again by endless Clinton investigations. The country has too much work to do to allow what should be the Clinton's responsibility to pay for and clear up to be dominating national discourse when vital issues of the day need our attention. The investigations need to continue, but off to the side and not while running for president.

All because big piles of MONEY can convince people that they are entitled to ignore the destruction in their wake. The collateral damage left behind--the costs in human lives, an honest election and national discourse, online communities, and the possible unification and national sense of purpose--is swept aside all for personal gain.

What is frustrating is how much MONEY can still buy--which should not be the center of our civilization--we need to shift our priorities and much quicker than these people are willing or are capable of doing.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
53. Still don't care about personal emails; FOIA requests and a private server, etc., etc.,
Sun May 29, 2016, 02:35 PM
May 2016

etc., etc., are other matters, and always have been. Only a bird brained press would lump it all together into one issue.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
56. 1) Two people have been cut deals. Probably for testimony.
Sun May 29, 2016, 07:17 PM
May 2016

2) Comey had a press conference just to confirm that there was an investigation.

Yes things have changed. If she is charged a month before the GE then Democrats, including the entire down ticket, will be up shit creek without a paddle.

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