2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSanders says Clinton’s email situation has changed
"Months after telling Hillary Clinton that Americans were sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails, Bernie Sanders may be changing his mind.
Interviewed Friday on Real Time with Bill Maher on HBO, Sanders was asked if the furor over Clintons use of a private email server as secretary of state had become large enough for the Vermont senator to reconsider his refusal to engage Clinton on the issue.
It has, he said. But this is what I also think: There is an enormous frustration on the part of the American people.
The State Departments inspector general found in a report released this past week that the email setup violated department rules, that Clinton never sought permission for it, and that the proposal would have been rejected if she had. The report handed Clintons Republican opponents a fresh line of attack and Sanders, too, if he chose to take it. Clintons competitor for the Democratic presidential nomination won praise at a candidates debate on October when he said, Enough of the emails. Lets talk about the real issues facing America. At the time, his campaign used the comments in a fund-raising email.
Seven months later, the delegates to be chosen June 7 in California and five other state nominating contests represent a last-ditch effort to close the gap with Clinton before the Democratic convention in July. Clinton holds a nearly insurmountable lead in pledged delegates, and is far ahead in popular votes. But a strong performance in California could boost Sanders case that superdelegates party leaders and elected officials not bound to any candidate should switch their allegiance to him on the basis of perceived electability against Republican Donald Trump."
http://www.columbian.com/news/2016/may/28/sanders-says-clintons-email-situation-has-changed/
That OIG audit changed everything and officially validated Hillary failures at the State Dept.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)short. This guy is such a shameless opportunist.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)stuff just to post stuff ?
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Hillary is trying to goat trump and he's not biting.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)asuhornets
(2,405 posts)KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Response to Trust Buster (Reply #1)
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CentralMass
(15,265 posts)intheflow
(28,451 posts)Describes your candidate of choice to a T, though not in an Teddy Roosevelt kind of way.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)He took the high road when Maher asked the question. The rest of the op is news quotes on the investigation, not words that came out of the Senators mouth.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Nominee... Then they WILL Think TWICE before handing Hillary the keys to the "car."
MSNBC To the deniers... Watch THIS Video... It is not comforting to think that she may well be the Democratic Nominee...
Hillary really betrayed Andrea Mitchell... The entire context of this report was of a solemn nature... A Funeral so to speak...
Andrea Mitchell "I do not see this report as ...ANYTHING BUT... DEVASTATING!"
Chuck Todd "After this I don't think that she could get confirmed for Attorney General!"
Lots of FIBBING by Hillary here.. for more than a year!
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)thinking so.
Perhaps Hillary would like to call a major press conference and field questions about her lying about the private server.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)I don't expect her to be indicted, and I don't even think what she did is all that terrible. But she has not done a very good job of handling it, and I am very scared that it could lead to a President Trump if she doesn't put it to bed.
I was at the point where I had accepted that she was probably going to be the nominee and I was and still am prepared to support her in the general election. But as someone who very much wants her to win if she is the nominee, I am very concerned about this crippling her and costing us the election.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)Trump must be defeated at the polls. But to do that now we need a strong, clean ticket.
Each day of this email stench is bringing our odds down.
amborin
(16,631 posts)in your face lies about incredibly important national security issues
and-----she got the name of the murdered ambassador wrong!!!!!!!
She referred to him as Chris Smith; his name is Chris Stevens
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)TwilightZone
(25,451 posts)Try reading the conclusions.
floriduck
(2,262 posts)American people care about are all the economic topics he's addressed for years. His comment in response to the email situation was just an acknowledgment to move on to policy issues.
So, if you are stressing some dubious Bernie attack on the email mess, you are flatly mistaken. Watch the video if you want to challenge me.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)He's right. This is Hillary's problem not the American people's problem. We will survive this scandal.
floriduck
(2,262 posts)Apparently that's just how the Tavi Jackson post took it below.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)The rest of your op is the sighting of news articles about the investigation. You imply that Sanders spoke these things about it.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)And what Bernie said is the truth.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Sanders avoided the question completely but your op implies otherwise.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)pro Hillary people and have them attack Bernie for something he HAS NOT done and more than likely will NOT do! Argh!
floriduck
(2,262 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)not play that way.
On the other hand he acknowledges that things have changed. Back then it was a R investigation today it is State and the FBI. Now it is serious.
Martin Eden
(12,858 posts)I'm referring to the following in the OP:
It has, he said. But this is what I also think: There is an enormous frustration on the part of the American people.
What's left out is that Bernie immediately identified that "frustration" as related to economic disparity. He was given an opportunity to attack Hillary on the email scandal, but instead talked about economic policy issues.
Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)He has ZERO chance of being the nominee.. So why? Superdelegates will not flip especially since he is going after the DNC too. He is just helping Trump at this point.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)It's a fact. Twist how you want.. imagine all you want.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)Bernie will probably lose California after suing everyone and attacking both Boxer and Feinstein.
Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)making people who normally love her now hate her. He is playing a dangerous game.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Because we owe her our adoration?
I haven't been a Hillary fan since watching her run an ugly, racist campaign in 2008.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)The sum total of what bernie said on the matter in the Maher interview is the direct quote at the top of the op. Period. I have posted a link to the interview upstream. Watch it for yourself
Martin Eden
(12,858 posts)In the 2nd part of the quote in the OP about voter "frustration" Bernie was talking about economic issues, not the email scandal.
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NWCorona
(8,541 posts)He's not hitching to this scandal. Just speaking the truth.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)guy who cares only for himself...he doesn't care if he helps Trump and pretty much ruins the progressive movement ...after all he counts right? what is it people used to call those who acted this way? Legend in his own mind. Well he comes off as desperate and somewhat pathetic. He looks lost these days...
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)lmbradford
(517 posts)You should put your ss# and bank acct# on an unsecure server with no password and have it sitting in a house with random guards, servants, aids, and a lot of random people for get togethers. If that disturbs you, now add the names of secret agents and top secret military ops and now you see reality.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)Hi11ary shouldn't be running for POTUS. She is not qualified to lead.
Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)Step back and ask yourself to be honest. Why is he behaving this way?
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)With a few foolish Bernie supporters all in...but 7 days folks until California...very large lady warming up to help sing Bernie back to Vermont and the Senate if they will have him.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)That was my limited point. Turn it into an attack on Sanders supporters all you want, but my comment is correct and why it has become harder to spin.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)the questions that they need to answer...can't be a paragon of virtue and keep hiding
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders said in an interview airing Sunday that voters will need to take a "hard look" at the State Department audit criticizing Clinton for her use of a private email server, but stopped short of going after her directly for it.
"The Inspector General just came out with a report, it was not a good report for Secretary Clinton. That is something that the American people, Democrats and delegates are going to have to take a hard look at," he said. "But for me right now, I continue to focus on how we can rebuild a disappearing middle class, deal with poverty, guarantee health care to all of our people as a right."
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie-sanders-voters-should-take-a-hard-look-at-clinton-emails-report/
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)again by endless Clinton investigations. The country has too much work to do to allow what should be the Clinton's responsibility to pay for and clear up to be dominating national discourse when vital issues of the day need our attention. The investigations need to continue, but off to the side and not while running for president.
All because big piles of MONEY can convince people that they are entitled to ignore the destruction in their wake. The collateral damage left behind--the costs in human lives, an honest election and national discourse, online communities, and the possible unification and national sense of purpose--is swept aside all for personal gain.
What is frustrating is how much MONEY can still buy--which should not be the center of our civilization--we need to shift our priorities and much quicker than these people are willing or are capable of doing.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)Babel_17
(5,400 posts)etc., etc., are other matters, and always have been. Only a bird brained press would lump it all together into one issue.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)That's not hard to grasp
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)2) Comey had a press conference just to confirm that there was an investigation.
Yes things have changed. If she is charged a month before the GE then Democrats, including the entire down ticket, will be up shit creek without a paddle.