Too Easy: How Republicans Would Tear Apart an Unvetted Bernie Sanders in the General Election

[Demsrule86]

Bernie Sanders should have never gotten this far.

"For nearly eight months, Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders was able to skate by thanks to a willing media in bad need of a horse race on the Democratic side. Sure, it would be a historic first in our country for a woman to be the first ever nominee from a major political party, but that kind of history is so boring. There's no drama in having a clear frontrunner, running a clean campaign, avoiding any major slip ups or scandals all while running against a weak, inept, and single-issue fringe candidate with no real legislative accomplishments to his name. By giving the race the sense of being a "coronation" the networks knew that the majority of viewers wouldn't be tuning it, despite that opportunity to see what the history books will eventually show as being a historical campaign. The media needed drama and the only way to create drama was to create a sense that the race was much closer than it actually was.

So like the good little Orwellian puppets that they are, our media did everything it could to create a horse race when one never existed. Sanders does well in Iowa and New Hampshire? The media simply ignores the fact that the demographics there play to Sanders' strengths. Sanders gets destroyed in South Carolina? The media simply ignores the fact that it's clear he hasn't won over the increasingly integral African-American voting bloc. Sanders struggles to win over Latinos?"

Excerpted

http://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2016/5/19/this-ends-now-the-bernie-sanders-opposition-research-the-media-refuses-to-release

[redstateblues]

1. The MSM has kept Bernie propped up to make it look like a horse race

Keeps their ratings up, keeps $ coming in.The ironic thing is that lots of those $37 donations go right to the hated corporate media to keep Bernie on Tv

[scscholar]

41. This, but why has the part not vetted him?

Even Hillary pointed that out recently.

[dchill]

2. Pretty small potatoes compared to the BANQUET...

Of Hillary & Bill goodies.

[Demsrule86]

3. Try reading the article

It is very detailed...oh and did you know he was a conscientious objector who voted to send other men and women to war?

[Time for change]

52. Ok, I see

He supported NATO bombing of Serbia in the 90s because he saw it as the only feasible means of preventing genocide there.

You do know that being a conscientious objector doesn't mean that you are against all wars, right? I assume that you're talking about the Vietnam War that he was a conscientious objector to. The purpose of the Vietnam war was not to prevent genocide. In fact it perpetrated a great deal of genocide. That's not too hard to explain.

[JonathanRackham]

4. I think Bernie would hold his own with dignity.

I'd like to see him chewing on Trump's bones. I think he could be a mean scrapper.

[Demsrule86]

8. Bernie would not beat Trump

Look how Trump punked him?

[cali]

10. Put down your cloudy crystal ball. You know..... zip. The Oracle of Delphi you are not.

[TheKentuckian]

33. What kind of "punking" is cutting and running? I don't get this meme, it is incoherent

and borderline delusional.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

60. Look at the #1 hashtag on Twitter. You are dead wrong. Number One Hashtag.

[seabeyond]

17. Sanders didn't show dignity in this campaign which was really a shame, or a sham.

[libtodeath]

5. Yeah,we should have just let the monied part of the party appoint who they want.

[Demsrule86]

7. He would lose badly in a general

and the stuff in this article is just part of what is out there. Look what they did to Kerry...and Sanders has way more baggage.

[libtodeath]

9. Oh darn,repukes wont like him!!!!

[Demsrule86]

12. Kerry lost more than repukes of course Nader helped (bastard)

Bernie could never win a general with his history...and socialism. People in Ohio, Florida and Virginia would not vote for him.

[libtodeath]

13. You know this how?

[Demsrule86]

16. I live in Ohio

My family is from Virginia and Florida is not his sort of state either...a socialist will never win in those places...consider how badly he lost Florida. And Ohio is an open primary by the way. As for Virginia...no way they vote for him.

[libtodeath]

21. *

[Demsrule86]

23. He also can't attract women easily

or minority voters and that is a fact...given the only way he could win is to overturn a primary and their votes...he would lose even more badly. Did you read about some of the stuff he did? He did stuff that I find appalling...and demonstrate no love for the poor either.

"Republicans wouldn't attempt to lessen Sanders' support among key Democratic voting blocs like Latinos? In 1994, Sanders co-sponsored a bill that would have allow low-level nuclear waste from Vermont to be shipped to the poor Latino community of Sierra Blanca, Texas. Activists from Sierra Blanca fought back for four years and even traveled 2,000 miles to Vermont to speak with then Congressman Sanders. Sanders' response? He told the activists he didn't care and that he had a re-election campaign to worry about. Republicans would be certain that Sanders would be forever associated with the terms 'Sierra Blanca' and 'environmental racism."

This is the real Bernie and he is not who you think.

[baldguy]

14. But isn't Sanders arguement that Republicans & independants *WOULD* like him better than Clinton?

You can't have it both ways.

[libtodeath]

15. No,that the working class will.

[Demsrule86]

26. How about this...

"Think Republicans wouldn't love to shatter Sanders' angelic reputation among his core supporters? Sanders consistently touts his anti-war record. Yet in 1999, he voted in favor of NATO's military mission in Yugoslavia, much to the dismay of his hometown supporters. In fact, his supporters were so upset that they went to Congressman Sanders' office to speak to him or someone with his staff. Sanders was in D.C. but the protesters were promptly arrested without being given an audience. Yup, that's right. Civil rights hero Bernie Sanders openly arrested protesters in his own congressional office. Republicans could literally kill two birds with one stone by using this instance to show Sanders and being pro-war and pro-establishment at the same time."

[baldguy]

49. Who do you think the "Reagan Democrats" are?

Who do you think Sanders says he attracts better that Clinton does? They're Republicans and independents. But it's always been a lie on Sanders' part: Sanders Isn’t Doing Well With True Independents

Just like in WV, these people will only vote for Sanders if it harms Clinton and the Democrats. They don't really like him. They never have.

[skylucy]

18. I agree.

[Tarc]

6. Well, we see how easy Trump just rope-a-doped him into demanding an imaginary debate

[TheKentuckian]

55. What rope a dope? Your perception is strange as can be, I can't even wrap my mind around what

the "problem" even is.

Sanders kicks his ass or he as he appears to be doing accepts then chumps out, how any of that is a Trump win is well beyond me. Unless....Are you actually arguing sike? For real like it is 4th or 5th grade?

Who lost is Clinton and it's her own fault, if she wasn't ducking and dodging Sanders set her up with a nice zinger and meme of being a cut and run liar, afraid to discuss ideas but too much of a big mouthed lout to resist writing a check his dumbass is too scared to cash in the first place.

COWARD. LIAR. CIRCUS BARKING LOUT. All laid up right over the fucking plate and trying to prop up a candidate that can't really even swing at the pitch.

"Punked" is gas lighting nonsense. Manufactured nonsense. Trump is a fucking blowhard no nothing, you keep needling him and he is going to go way, way off the rails.

I think you guys dangerously don't get it, you are playing with fire if you try to politics as usual with this guy. You'll traditional wisdom right into a seat next to JEB, though that might be the usual arrangement when dining with the other family as far as we know and not be so much of an unsettling place to be as it would be for some of us.

[baldguy]

11. .

[skylucy]

20. Yep.

[polly7]

19. LOL nt.

[SheenaR]

22. Read the whole thing

Still pales in comparison to what they will use against the Secretary

[Demsrule86]

27. Think so

Everything is out there about Clinton ...has been for years...right wing attack machine...most don't listen to the Bullshite anymore..but Jane could find herself in hot water too...spouses matter. What would Trump do with this.

"As we've already seen with Donald Trump, spouses are fair game in the year 2016. Unfortunately, for Bernie Sanders, his wife Jane has more than enough baggage for Donald Trump and Republicans to use. Not only has she continued to profit off of the same nuclear commission involved in the Sierra Blanca case, but she also received a $200,000 golden parachute from Burlington College, where she served as president to a for-profit school that is scheduled to close later this month due to crushing debt. She also has been accused of bank fraud for potentially having scammed the Catholic Church out of nearly $2 million in a land dea"l

[Bob-o the Clown]

24. The People's View?

Dubious source, I'd say.

[Demsrule86]

28. It is not Fox

And I checked the stuff out...it is posted in other places...nice to have it all in one place but check it out...I found nothing incorrect. And considering that people here post-Trump supporter opinion pieces...this source is gold ...and least he is not a f'ing right winger. Someone literally posted a guy saying how Clinton broke the law email...yada yada...when he was a fake spy and fired for sending pictures of his nether region to a women and internet stalking so...yeah this guy seems OK.

[TheKentuckian]

58. Not FOX is not an argument for legitimacy and reliability, it is a cop out.

A super lazy one at that. Kinda like defending an exclusive diet of birthday cake by finger pointing at the existence of fried twinkies because you could be just eating those.

Or maybe...

Defending drinking 12 or 14 beers because you didn't drink a pint of bourbon or vice versa is probably closer.

[frylock]

25. The People Spew

[Demsrule86]

30. Whatever

Is the story about sending nuclear waste to a poor area and profiting off of it untrue?

I couple of months ago I wrote a diary about Sierra Blanca. The entire diary can be found below for perspective. I suggest you read it and then watch Paul Wellstone in action on the Senate floor.

The Sanders’ have partially released their 2014 tax return and on the return, Jane Sanders is still drawing a salary as an alternate commissioner for the Texas Low-Level Radioactive Waste Disposal Compact Commission. (TLLRWD Commissioner)

This is the commission that oversaw the Sierra Blanca dump site, that Sanders voted for and also voted to strip out the Wellstone amendment in conference.

The Wellstone amendment would have given legal recourse to this mostly poor Latino community to fight the placement of this waste dump, if they could prove environmental racism. The compact was passed, with vigorous help from Sanders. Later and fortunately the dump was scuttled by the state of Texas.

This is just for 2014. Mrs. Sanders could have been drawing a salary for years and unless they release more tax returns we'll never know for sure.

go.berniesanders.com

[Bob-o the Clown]

34. Just one question about your propaganda

You realize that there is no nuclear waste in Sierra Blanca right now?

Oh, and the location where the proposed dump is sparsely populated?

I'd read the whole story before swallowing and spurting out your bullshit, thank you.

Sanders being on some compact committee is irrelevant.

What's more: The only nuclear power plant in Vermont, Vermont Yankee was decommissioned at the end of 2014?

[Demsrule86]

45. You realize the Sanders still profit ...it was on their tax return 2014 How many decades?

And had Sanders had his way...the people would have had the waste...the governor of Texas stopped it. Bernie was all for it.

[QC]

31. The Peehole Spew, run by a repeatedly banned troll.

Hmmm, I wonder if Spamdan is back.

[Demsrule86]

32. From Daily Kos

And it is on the one Tax return released...so how long has Janie been getting money on this deal? Other tax returns would tell us...where are they?

[AgingAmerican]

29. Thanks for the pantload

[HooptieWagon]

35. If it was so easy, why didn't Hillary do it?

[Demsrule86]

36. You don't attack fellow Democrats

Bernie just doesn't get that.

[Bob-o the Clown]

38. Facts are attacks?

I didn't know that.

I'll start posting lies about Clinton now.

[Demsrule86]

40. Hahaha

People already have here...but feel free...they are not lies...I checked. You could too but you don't really want to know the truth about Bernie.

[Bob-o the Clown]

43. What truth? He's already been vetted and found clean.

No scandals hanging over his head.

Clinton, on the other hand, is pretty much a walking, talking one.

[Demsrule86]

46. After the GOP finished

I am not sure he could get elected in Vermont.

[Bob-o the Clown]

47. That's what you believe.

Uh-huh.

GOP couldn't even beat Bernie.

What makes you think he doesn't have a case. He does: Clinton won't even have the security clearance required for the job.

[NanceGreggs]

54. "Vetted" by who?

Himself? His adoring fans?

[HooptieWagon]

39. Never stopped her before.

[SusanCalvin]

53. Yeah?

Like when Hillary said, "I'm OK, McCain's OK, but I dunno about that Obama guy with his little speech"...?

[Demsrule86]

37. why do you suppose Joe S and Mika want Bernie

Why does Trump want Bernie? They know they could destroy Bernie.

[RichVRichV]

57. Trump wants Bernie so bad that he's scared to debate him.

I love your logic, or total lack there of.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

42. spin

people don't tear Bernie apart period

[imagine2015]

48. That will be as successful as the "Obama is a black power Muslim, communist from Kenya" propaganda.

That didn't work so wel for right-wing Republicans in 2008 or 2012, did it?

Bernie is an experienced tough campaigner, not a weak scandal ridden candidate disliked by most people such as Hillary.

[Garrett78]

50. Media wanting to push a "horse race" was a factor, but I think caucuses were the main factor.

Replace caucuses with primaries and I suspect Clinton would already have a clear majority of pledged delegates.

[riderinthestorm]

51. Lol! Known propaganda site propagandizes. Good luck with that nt

[RichVRichV]

56. Considering all of those smears have already been tried and failed miserably by Brock....

I'm guessing you just think the Republicans are smarter than Hillary's people. That doesn't say a whole lot for her in the general now does it?

[BillZBubb]

59. You want to see real negative ammunition look at what Hillary offers to the repugs.

That Bernie stuff is dated and frankly trite. It would only effect the far right.

Clinton's emails, server, dishonesty, and crimes will bring her down. Nothing in Bernie's background remotely compares to the baggage of Ms. Golden Sacks.