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KING: Hillary Clinton has been caught lying for a year in her email scandal
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Thursday, May 26, 2016, 1:07 PM
Seven months ago I made a mistake. I took Hillary Clinton at her word concerning the never-ending scandal surrounding her email accounts. When she and Bernie debated all the way back in October, and Bernie famously said to her, "The American people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails," that was the nail in the coffin for me on the issue.
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On Wednesday, the State Department, as in the State Department she oversaw between 2009 and 2013, released a scathing report following a year-long investigation into her use of a private email server and private email accounts. The results get to the heart of why 60% of Americans view her unfavorably and why she may be behind Donald Trump in recent polls.
CNN's Jake Tapper and Evan Perez, in a segment aired just hours after the report was released, showed how Hillary Clinton, in repeated interviews over the past year, has completely misrepresented what really took place on this issue.
more...
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/king-clinton-caught-lying-year-email-scandal-article-1.2651043
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Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)Saying the rules weren't clear....which is why she didn't ask for clarification, I guess.
But the IG report says the rules and policies that were in place when she took office were the most comprehensive at the time. Furthermore it says any request to use a personal server would have been denied.
She's a liar
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Carolina
(6,960 posts)IWR and her lies are why I will never support her.
The truth about the emails and private server use is that HRC was using her position as SoS to make deals that would benefit the Clinton Foundation slush fund, bankroll her pursuit of the presidency and avoid FOI inquiries. What slime
Nobody is talking about the slush fund yet this week, wrt the emails.
Seeinghope
(786 posts)I think that are highly educated people with highly educated friends...and many that are expert in regulation, contracts and processes in government.
Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Since when are lies by (above the law) oligarchs ..an issue?
As Billy boy said.." better to seek forgiveness, rather than permission".
Seeinghope
(786 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Bob-Bye
Seeinghope
(786 posts)because of the fact of the. using the dumb excuse of not understanding all of the rules a procedures of them the office were not not easy to understand. With their educational background and connections there is no excuse on that front.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Because they are considered ...above the law
MaeScott
(878 posts)laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Co.pounded by tens of thousands of missing emails
By both her and ALL of her IT guy
Further made morose by refusals to cooperate/ copy
I'm just sayin...
..............they ain't sayin
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)If and when the cost of pushing that spin is prohibitive, it will stop. The media taking if off its gloves and flat out awarding Pinocchios to such statements, and then following up on that, would put an end to it.
But is there another narrative ready that can be put in place before the convention? After the convention it can be characterized as in the past (if the FBI doesn't fundamentally disagree) and already apologized for. Then replaced in peoples minds by attacking Trump. Though Trump might have enough material from the reports to never have to let the issue die.
uponit7771
(90,370 posts)... how many Clinton email threads in the last 123 days!?
Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)uponit7771
(90,370 posts)Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)And if she doesn't then she'll have to admit that she's just spouting off without any attempt to check into facts, as evidenced elsewhere in this thread.
I keep wanting to use the but then I realize how pathetic and sad the Hillary responses in here are and see that it's not appropriate. It's way beyond funny. It's really a sad day when 3/4 of the people (Republicans and Third Way Dems) of this country are blind followers with no regard for facts.
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cpwm17
(3,829 posts)Hillary Clinton exposed far more highly classified information than Manning, including top secret, for strictly selfish reasons.
Authoritarians are not just for Trump.
uponit7771
(90,370 posts)... explain that to you
cui bono
(19,926 posts)uponit7771
(90,370 posts)... is a LIV don't cha.
Look, get the smokes... I'm going to the drum circle...
cui bono
(19,926 posts)And why did she hire an IT guy? And how did she do that accidentally?
And was it an accident when she continually lied about it? And was it an accident when she didn't turn over all the emails she said she did?
She sure does a lot of things by accident. Good reason she is unfit for office.
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uponit7771
(90,370 posts)... that's easy seeing I've set up mail servers in the past.
Either way, it was already there...
Why aren't we talking about tRumps rape aligations?
Yaw more interested in some damn emails than tRump going to jail...
that's a shame
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)Do you see how brave she is? And what a nak... er... I mean, knack, for words she has?
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Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)uponit7771
(90,370 posts)... is gob smacking.
No wonder Sanders camp thinks this nothing burger is a big deal, yaw desperate....
Here...
smoke this...
calm down k?
thx
cui bono
(19,926 posts)So why do you keep posting in this thread/OP?
How did she accidentally use a particular server rather than the one that was specifically set up for her use by the govt? The govt that she worked in?
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cui, I'm not sure there would be a better way to present this debate than the way you just did.
I'm fascinated by the folks that continue to follow blindly. How do they look themselves in the mirror. This isn't going to get swept under the carpet and Trump and going to mop the floor with it....
Give it to Bernie or put in Biden or Kerry....but this isn't going to be successful after the IG report. The FBI is going to pile on in the next few weeks now that they have the IG report
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Well it certainly wasn't an accident. She made a calculated move to disregard State Dept. rules and regulations that were put there for security reasons in order to keep classified information secure. She absolutely did it on purpose. She just didn't care.
Even if Hillary squeaks by all her many obstacles and manages to get into the WH, we all know it won't take long before she is getting impeached for something. And sadly, given her track record, it would not be surprising if it were for a legitimate reason.
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AntiBank
(1,339 posts)I keep seeing this same lame ass meme coming from the Clinton 3rd Way Gang in here.
polly7
(20,582 posts)been banned by Obama - as an adviser re Libya (also representing clients with interests in a post-war Libya), being paid through her Foundation, and whose completely wrong 'intelligence' she used (with no ability for scrutiny) to persuade Obama to intervene in a sovereign nation on the '7 countries in 5 years' hit list and help cause that horror, as well as all of the resulting suffering for millions since?
So much ado about so little? The IS and Boko Haram freaks who were let lose to fill the vacuums in Iraq and Libya created have burned people alive - among so many other atrocities. Is that nothing? Without Blumenthal's 'info', an ambivalent Obama may not have been pushed over the line for that 51-49 vote. Clinton told Blumenthal to 'keep em coming'. Another email celebrated getting Obama onboard as an early Christmas present!
Barack Obama says Libya was 'worst mistake' of his presidency.
Meanwhile, millions are either dead, maimed physically and mentally, orphaned, dying at sea, refugees in dangerous refugee camps where women (who'd previously been allowed many, many freedoms now denied by the fundamentalists now running those countries) and children are kidnapped and raped and murdered.
Nothing to care about, though. I don't understand this at all
And check out this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&forum=1002&pid=7857478
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Oh wait, you mentioned Blumenthal. I think that would involve baby koala bears. Or something.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2063619
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cpwm17
(3,829 posts)She clearly also broke the law. What she did is so bizarre. How on earth did she think that was even kosher?
Manning did the world a favor by exposing serious war crimes. I suppose one could say that Hillary did the World a favor by showing how unfit she is to be president with her flagrant disregard for security concerns.
What Hillary did likely caused far more harm than what Manning did, except Manning caused authoritarian heads to explode all over the US.
uponit7771
(90,370 posts)cpwm17
(3,829 posts)is more secure than the government's system set up to handle classified information. She also kept all of her E-mails to herself, only turning over some of what belongs to the US public two years after she left, and only because she was forced to do so.
But you were so upset when Manning exposed a war crime, you know, because of secrets.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)uponit7771
(90,370 posts)... I could give a shit about her emails
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)cpwm17
(3,829 posts)zazen
(2,978 posts)Just not someone so disliked and under major investigation. The DNC can hand her delegates to Biden. But she's got to go.
boston bean
(36,224 posts)uponit7771
(90,370 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)You guys have really lost it. Don't bother to even look into anything before you post, just jump right into being completely wrong with name calling.
This is what you say about Shaun King?
10. +1, lets us all know how many reThugs are posting on DU these days
Pathetic. At least you're showing how little you care about facts and research and how you will blindly defend the indefensible. Truly digusting.
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uponit7771
(90,370 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)That is some weird shit.
Star Member uponit7771 (30,970 posts)
16. Nope, neither are baby bunny rabbits ... cause that has to be explained to you? tia
What does it mean?
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uponit7771
(90,370 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)based on the post you replied to.
I have no idea what they hell you are yammering on about after that.
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uponit7771
(90,370 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)uponit7771
(90,370 posts)... face.
and this is a waste of time
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Everyone can see it, unless you deleted it out of embarrassment.
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nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)is rather revealing... about you
uponit7771
(90,370 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)Of course, s/he probably doesn't have the capacity to just say, oops, sorry, I was wrong so they just double, no, quadruple down.
It's just gibberish now.
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nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)this is par for the course. I admit, I thought it was a nothing burger until like most media... I downloaded emals when they were released. The ones on dinner with Pelosi and theater, get a social secretary, really. But there were four in that first batch that were ... born classified.
That is when I went instantly from nothing burger, to this is very serious shit.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)So if you weren't calling King a "reThug" then who were you calling a "reThug"? Me?
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cui bono
(19,926 posts)Much better to show your ignorance.
Or do you think a BLM activist is a "republican puke bag"?
What a joke Hillary supporters have become.
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840high
(17,196 posts)defend Hillary - they don't even think.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)responds: Mistakes were made, but let's move
forward.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)But she'll likely plead the 5th in her FBI questioning, or perjury will be added to the other charges.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)This definitely sounds like Fox News talk.
Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)Hillary lies...from being named after Sir Edmund Hillary to claiming her server was approved for use and allowed under the rules
oberliner
(58,724 posts)It's a common refrain on Fox News and that ilk.
Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)When they are so wrong about everything else?
Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)That is not an opinion shared by many of her supporters who are Democrats, not far RW lunatics like the aforementioned.
Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)Mother Of Four
(1,716 posts)"Truth Challenged"
"Habitual reality changer"
"Falsehood addict"
"Authenticity Denier"
Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)That's just me.
islandmkl
(5,275 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)It just seems strange.
Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)But this argument is kind of silly, so I am happy to back out of it.
Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)Rand Paul was against war and against illegally spying on our citizens. Does that automatically mean that's not true because a right winger said it? Of course not.
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oberliner
(58,724 posts)Can you name any prominent Democrat who has expressed that opinion about Hillary?
pinebox
(5,761 posts)In a small club, nobody should be criticized by a fellow club member because it makes the club look bad.
That's why.
Truth is, Hillary is always lying. There are a myriad of issues where she has and then you add in her constant changing of positions, is it any wonder why America can't stand her? Yes there are RW smears but there is also the fact that Hillary is her own worst enemy.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Can you consider that possibility?
cui bono
(19,926 posts)I'm series!
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cui bono
(19,926 posts)And really, you think just because someone is right wing that they can't actually be right about something?
We all know about so many lies Hillary has told. And some of them were real whoppers! I mean lying about what was in the classified document she claimed said Iraq had WMD to justify her vote for war? Jesus fuck. That alone right there should make any thinking person see she is unfit for office.
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oberliner
(58,724 posts)It just seems strange how all their attacks on Hillary are what they seem to be right about for some folks.
Most thinking people do not feel she is unfit for office.
In fact, the majority of those who do are the aforementioned right-wingers.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)That's what they live for, to hate Hillary.
But there are plenty of left wingers and centrists who feel she is unfit for office. Many Dems and many independents.
I saw another post by you somewhere that also seems to indicate that you feel that anyone who's not on your "team", whether that be the Dem Party or Hillary supporters, cannot be right about anything. That is a very closed minded way of looking at things and a completely wrong way as well.
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AntiBank
(1,339 posts)I suggest sleep and retrenchment for the coming weekend follies.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Just an observation that these right-wing crazies who repeat the "serial liar" talking point somehow manage to be exactly right about Hillary when they are wrong about everything else. It seems odd.
AntiBank
(1,339 posts)the argument (or inference if you will) was
left wing person says A
right wing crazies also say/said A
right crazies are often wrong
therefore A is wrong
Genetic Fallacy - Attempting to endorse or disqualify a claim because of the origin or irrelevant history of the claim.
Guilt by Association - Rejecting an argument or claim because the person proposing it likes someone whom is disliked by another.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)There is no argument being made. I am making no claim that "A is wrong".
I am observing that it is strange/odd how otherwise unreliable sources about whom there is generally nothing but antipathy here have managed to be correct on this one point.
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840high
(17,196 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Weird how they have her pegged accurately even though they are woefully misguided on everything else. How does that happen?
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Sky is blue, water is wet, Space Jam sucks, and the Clintons lie a hell of a lot. The distinction seems to be in what they are being accused of lying about.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)AntiBank
(1,339 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)I don't understand the hate.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I'd be very curious to read that list!
AntiBank
(1,339 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Note: Response to Scootaloo (Reply #86)
AntiBank
(1,339 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)It can be tough keeping track of who is talking to whom on these long subthreads!
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)You should get out some, take a look around.
Uncle Joe
(58,506 posts)Thanks for the thread, cui bono.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)this is somebody who believed her... oopsie... becuase I actually heard this today a couple times.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)For what that is worth.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)were not. One was undecided, the other was a HRC supporter who will stay home
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Hopefully most Democrats will not stay home.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)the one I actually expected. Scandals have a rhythm to them. The party will have to make their decision, and fairly soon.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)It's depressing.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and truly they will have to do this soon.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Barring major lopsided victories for Bernie in CA and NJ.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)cheapdate
(3,811 posts)is if Hillary Clinton becomes the nominee of the Democratic Party, will DU continue to attack her just as aggressively right up to November? Maybe we'll find out and maybe not.
But I know where I stand. I stand with the Democratic Party.
Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)And continues to lie to all of us. I wish I could blindly compromise my principles and integrity enough to dumbly fall in line behind her load of bullshit.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)I am 100% opposed to Republican politics and I won't do anything that strengthens or empowers them, or helps them in any way to get the White House in 2016. Everything I value and hope for from government will be reversed and dismantled under a Republican President, in this case Donald Trump. He will empower bigots and racists nationwide; He's promised to undo the Iran agreement; walk away from all climate agreements; he's called the the Environmental Protection Agency "disgraceful"; he wants to sell public lands.
My mind is made up. I'm voting for the Democrat, whoever he or she may be. It's not a tough call for me.
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islandmkl
(5,275 posts)apparently you are referring to Republican politics (and policies) of the current era (say post-2000), as opposed to Republican politics and policies of the 1980's....
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)but I think I have a pretty good idea, and I strongly suspect that you're way, way, off base.
I have definite and strong opinions about a lot of things; civil liberties, war and aggression, social justice, etc. But for simplification, you could say I'm a single issue voter. Clean water, clean air, healthy land, healthy food, open spaces, intact, living, ecosystems, etc.
My vote will always go to the person who will be the better champion of my values. In the case of 2 imperfect choices, it goes to the person who will do the least harm.
In the case of HRC v. Trump, it's not even close. Hillary Clinton recognizes the scientific understanding of climate science and the need for functioning regulatory agencies to enforce laws and regulations for the protection of the environment. She would preserve and defend the hard-won protection of the powerful Endangered Species Act, the Clean Water Act, the Clean Air Act, etc.
Trump has called the Environmental Protection Agency "a disgrace". He's promised to walk away from of all previously negotiated international climate agreements. He's floated the idea of selling off public lands. He's promised to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil and gas production. He would head a Republican Party that stands diametrically opposed to my deepest values.
It's not a tough call.
I didn't vote for HRC in the 2008 primary or in the 2016 primary. I have major disagreements with her in many important areas. I don't agree with her on trade, foreign policy, the proper relationship between business and government, etc.
But Hillary v Trump is not a tough call. It's not even close.
islandmkl
(5,275 posts)it's Third Way/old-DLC Democratic Party power structure versus roots-Democrats...
their are plenty of good Dems who adhere to, and approve and promote, the policies of the current leadership of the Party, and many of those policies and positions and programs recall Republican positions of the 70s and 80s...
saying Hillary is better than Trump is not exactly proof of anything other than the obvious...that does not equate in any shape or form that Hillary IS GOOD for the country...let alone the Party...
we've been going down this road for 20+ years...many of us are tired of such choices, and the waiting for 4 or 8 years for 'change' is wearing (on both ends of the political spectrum)...
I don't want Trump to even visit the White House...nor do I think the Clintons should move back in....but those appear to be the choices...
many of us don't want to pick the 'lesser of two evils'...we might have to determine who will be the 'less effective' in making anything actually happen with all the gridlock in DC...
too cynical, I'm sure...but in the end, one has to have faith that America will persevere...after all, we survived, not exactly in tact, the Bush/Cheney years....
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Hillary and Obama. And very critical of Bill Clinton who is the one who turned the Democratic Party into another corporate party.
Hillary also has made mention of undoing Obama's diplomacy with Iran.
So really, the only way to not support Republican policy is to get Bernie in the WH.
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pmorlan1
(2,096 posts)I don't stand with ones who lie. I defended a lying Democrat once and I won't do it again (at least not knowingly). We have plenty of honest Democrats who will get my support.
cheapdate
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cheapdate
(3,811 posts)The things that matter, matter on their own without any regard to labels -- clean water, clean air, healthy food, living ecosystems, freedom to think, speak, and live.
Politics is an unavoidable precondition. It exists whether we like it or not.
A new president will be in the White House in November and that person will either be a Republican or a Democrat. I'll do whatever I can to try to make sure its a Democrat. It's not a tough call for me. Because some things matter to me more than labels.
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cheapdate
(3,811 posts)pretty clear. The election will be between Donald Trump and either Hillary or Bernie. It's not a tough call for me.
Hillary and Bernie have both been in public life for a long time. There is no reason to have question about where they stand.
Hillary believes in a close relationship between business and government. She believes America has a moral obligation to impose American style capitalism around the world. On the other hand, she believes in the necessity of functioning government institutions and regulatory agencies. She believes in a progressive tax structure. She's not a radical environmentalist (like me) but she agrees with the scientific understanding of the climate and she believes in the need for environmental protection laws and an agency to enforce them.
You think she's no different than Trump and it doesn't matter if a Democrat is in the White House if it's Hillary? Good for you.
I didn't vote for Hillary in the 2008 primary and I didn't vote for her in the 2016 primary. I'm voting for the Democrat in the 2016 GE.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)The real choice in November will be between the Republican, Donald Trump, and the Democrat, yet to be named.
I will be voting for the Democrat yet to be named in November. It's not a tough call for me.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)living ecosystem" are not a priority for many Dems. Particularly Hillary. She is pushing for worldwide fracking for one. That kind of says it all.
We need to get out of this team player mindset if we are ever going to change things. That just brings us the lesser of two evils now that the Dem Party is corporate as well. That's just not good enough any more. Especially now that Bernie has shown us it's not necessary.
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cheapdate
(3,811 posts)Trump has called the Environmental Protection Agency "a disgrace". He's promised to walk away from of all previously negotiated international climate agreements. He's floated the idea of selling off public lands. He's promised to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil and gas production. He would head a Republican Party that stands diametrically opposed to my deepest values.
So Hillary wants to impose fracking worldwide? Trump will see that bet and raise it. Trump will impose fracking worldwide, and open ANWR to oil and gas, and allow fracking on sensitive public lands, and cripple the EPA, and staff the regulatory agencies with ideological nut-jobs.
For all of my major disagreements with Hillary Clinton over trade, foreign policy, the proper relationship between private business and public government, etc. she at least recognizes the need for functioning regulatory agencies to enforce laws and regulations for the protection of the environment. She agrees with the scientific understanding of climate change. She would preserve the hard-won protections of the Endangered Species Act.
The election is not a tough call for me. When public lands are gone they're gone for good. I know what would happen if Donald Trump was to run the government and staff the federal agencies. He's indicated clearly what his plans are.
If you want to frame it as a choice between "lesser evils", fine. I'll choose lesser evil every time. Choosing greater evil is not even a morally sensible proposition. (Note also that, philosophically speaking, the "lesser evil" choice can just as easily be expressed as a choice of "greater good" without changing the heart of the question in any way.)
The choice in November between "lesser evil" or "greater good" is a consequential one. That is, unlike a choice between The Beach Boys and The Beatles, it's a choice with meaningful consequences. Furthermore, it's a "forced choice", that is if you don't choose someone will choose for you.
In a forced choice between "lesser evil" or "greater good" I'll choose the lesser evil, or the greater good every time. I'm at a complete loss to understand any moral framework in which this is even a sensible question.
I don't have any illusions or misconceptions about who Hillary Clinton is and what she believes. She's an open book with a long public record. I'm voting for the Democrat in November, whoever he or she might be. Party reform can wait for the hour it takes me to vote. I'll defend and support all Democratic candidates in this election season, Hillary, Bernie, whoever.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Land of Enchantment
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RBInMaine
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vintx
(1,748 posts)Be proud!
LynnTTT
(362 posts)-Previous Secretaries also used private email to conduct State Department business
-It's still permissible to use private email accounts for State business
-Everyone she ever sent an email to had to know she was using private email; clearly the emails did not have the "state.gov" extension. So everyone knew she was using a private email account and no one questioned it
-There is no evidence that her private server was hacked, while many government servers have been
-Stop saying that "just because the previous Secretary didn't turn in his records when required to legally doesn't mean she was right not to". Precedent does count.
She's already said it was a mistake. I believe she did use the server (which was already set up) out of convenience and a wish for privacy relating to her personal emails.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Darb
(2,807 posts)I pine for the days when the DU actually had Democrats in the majority. Who's in the majority now you ask? You tell me.
eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)Not too surprising, but hopefully when Hillary clinches next week, and the Sanders folks have had time to calm down, they will take a fresh look at this and realize one big thing.
Whenever the IG report talked about notifying the Secretary of State's office, they didn't mean directly notifying Hillary, but instead whoever screens her emails, who passed them on to some IT person without Hillary knowing anything about it. There has to be some direct connection for any wrong doing to be found.