2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMad About Rigged Elections? Mainstream Media Says YOU Are the Problem
Perhaps corporate, mainstream media instead of targeting the symptom should attempt to report its root cause.
Perhaps enormous swaths of voters being dropped from the rolls in New York; Clintons inexplicably astronomical luck in coin tosses in Iowa; inexcusably untrained elections volunteers and their equally inexcusable tendency allowing Clinton supporters to participate in caucuses without first being registered; or any number of other examples from the mountain of ever-growing evidence the elections are, indeed, rigged, are infinitely more deserving of headlines than hit pieces against those protesting such affronts to the American electoral process.
Or perhaps we should all just do as Eichenwald suggests swallow our pride and our desire for a less corrupt and fairer system and turn tail.
Or not. Because this system is rigged and the corporate media helps pull the strings. But as long as independent media reports what the mainstream refuses, and as long as fraud inundates the 2016 election, there will be protests regardless of whether or not Newsweek and the Times and the rest of their ilk ever grasp accuracy in reporting.
http://theantimedia.org/media-rigged-elections-your-fault/
stone space
(6,498 posts)That would be awesome!
J_J_
(1,213 posts)MSM covering up crimes of the elite as usual
reformist2
(9,841 posts)2banon
(7,321 posts)Excellent post.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Gothmog
(145,839 posts)The claims in the OP are simply false http://www.thenation.com/article/the-conspiracy-theory-that-the-clinton-campaign-stole-votes-makes-no-sense/
Obviously, if campaign operatives were caught rigging a primary or caucus, their candidate would face a media shit-storm, their political careers would be over, and they might well end up in prison. So lets set aside the specifics for a moment and consider whether theres a coherent motive for these crimes that would be worth the risk.
Put yourself in the shoes of a vicious Clinton operative with loose ethics and a desire to win at all costs. Why would such a person bother rigging the vote in Wyoming, the state with the fewest delegates up for grabs? Thats a significant risk and a lot of trouble to go through to turn what might have been an 8-6 or perhaps 9-5 delegate split into a 7-7 outcome.
he same problem holds more generally. While Sanders has run an excellent campaign and exceeded all expectations, at no point during the Democratic primaries has he been on track to win. Sanders has held a lead in a handful of national polls, but at no time in the past year has his support broken 42 percent in FiveThirtyEights weighted polling average. And at no point in the race has Clinton held a lead narrower than 9.7 percentage points in that average. Why would any campaign, no matter how unprincipled, fix a race that its been winning from the start?
Of course, we dont have a national primary, and Sanders has only gained supportand eaten into Clintonsover time. But looking back at the calendar, there hasnt been a time when the Clinton campaign would have had a rational incentive to start rigging the contests.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)They are cheerleaders, not impartial scorekeepers. The idea that they are unbiased just because they aren't Fox, is poisonous.
A prime opportunity to replace the MSM is upon us.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Now its just an oligarchy, with unlimited political bribery being the essence of getting the nominations for president or to elect the president. And the same thing applies to governors, and U.S. senators and congress members. Former President Jimmy Carter
http://theantimedia.org/2016-americans-realized-elections-rigged/
J_J_
(1,213 posts)I can't believe he hasn't noticed what has been happening this primary season.
He's called the United States an oligarchy.
mythology
(9,527 posts)Yes the people constantly claiming there are the problem. Just like people who complain about welfare queens without evidence they exist are a problem.
Being unwilling or unable to accept that your preferred candidate isn't winning an election isn't particularly graceful. But claiming every loss is as a result of fraud without any evidence is classless and childish.
kayakjohnny
(5,235 posts)Your username is showing.
anigbrowl
(13,889 posts)This is basically just grouchy commentary on secondary sources with no actual facts to back up the claims other than the author's pre-existing beliefs.
libodem
(19,288 posts)I'm not meant to be reality based. Eff that.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)You are letting the worst of it continue.
J_J_
(1,213 posts)nt
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I wonder if that is because it's not happening to the voters they care about. That would fit the pattern we see in complaining about election results. Self serving crap.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)The shepherd always tries to persuade the sheep that their interests and his own are the same. Marie Beyle (Stendahl)