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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:56 AM May 2016

I think Howard Dean has a serious case of Bernie envy

They've never liked each other and Dean's campaign was a mere shadow of Bernie's. Dean went so far as to endorse Bernie's republican opponent in 1996. Of course we ignored Howard on that, and both the DNC and the VDC endorsed Bernie. It's no secret here that Dean is vindictive as Hell. I still have a grudging fondness for Howard, though it's not shared by too many Vermonters, but that he's a centrist has always been known to vermonters. Btw, no way could Dean come close to beating Bernie if he ran against him. Bernie is vastly more popular than Dean ever was.

In any case, here's an interesting article about their relationship.

It would be difficult to find a more dynamic and well-rounded Democratic political creature than Howard Dean. One year after the infamous Dean Scream, the beloved longtime Vermonter and former medical doctor stepped up as chair of the Democratic Party, a position he would hold from 2005 to 2009. In 2005, Dean also founded Democracy for America, a progressive PAC and advocacy group that is thriving in the 2016 cycle. This is all in addition to his many years in the Vermont legislature, his six consecutive terms as governor of the Green Mountain State, and his service as head of the National Governors Association.

And now that America is on the precipice of what will inevitably one of the most polarized and unpredictable general elections in recent history, Dean has become a sought-after political pundit, appearing frequently on cable news and quoted often in print media. In the present political climate, Dean has a unique perspective on his fellow Vermonter, Bernie Sanders; on Hillary Clinton, whom Dean has endorsed; and on the shape of the Democratic electorate itself. In fact, if there were an emperor of progressive Democrats, Dean would be the man—except of course his fellow Vermonter, Sanders, is now that man. Unsurprisingly, Dean’s feelings about Sanders are… complicated.

The two have certainly clashed over the years—dating back to the early 1990s, when Sanders was mayor of Burlington, Vermont, and one of the founders of the Progressive Coalition, now the Progressive Party. As an unusually viable third party, Vermont’s Progressives caused then-Governor Dean more than a few headaches over dozens of policies, like free trade, environmental regulations, and party registration. And then there’s health care. In November 1993, Dean slammed then-Representative Sanders for his health-care proposal. According to The Vermont Times, Sanders “marched into the Statehouse to unveil his own study of how a Canadian-style single-payer health system would save Vermont $270 million. Sanders’ Statehouse appearance was a violation of the accepted and unspoken protocol that dictates that members of the Washington delegation stay the hell out of Montpelier’s business.” After the Statehouse move, Dean went all in and compared Sanders to Ronald Reagan—perhaps the only person ever to do so. Dean said Sanders—just like the former Republican president—was building expectations for something that was “not going to happen.” This year, during the battle for Iowa, Dean again bashed Sanders’s health-care plan: “Would his plan result in the kind of chaos that in fact would undo people’s health care? That is something to be concerned about.”

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http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/the-democratic-wingman-of-the-democratic-party/483752/

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I think Howard Dean has a serious case of Bernie envy (Original Post) cali May 2016 OP
Dean Before the Scream and Now merrily May 2016 #1
I think a lot of them have Bernie envy Mnpaul May 2016 #2

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
2. I think a lot of them have Bernie envy
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:07 AM
May 2016

all he has to do is say "donate" and the cash flows

Now if they could only figure out his "secret"

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