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If you are gonna be revolutin tootin against the Democratic Party and our Nominee (Original Post) boston bean May 2016 OP
What a well developed OP. morningfog May 2016 #1
Thought you would enjoy! LOL boston bean May 2016 #2
What's missing from it? Cary May 2016 #54
Anything of value. Utterly lazy flame bait. morningfog May 2016 #64
IOW you don't like it Cary May 2016 #65
No other words are needed. It's useless flame bait. morningfog May 2016 #66
What nominee? cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #3
Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton. boston bean May 2016 #7
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #9
What nominee? cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #10
Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton. boston bean May 2016 #11
Do you click your heels together three times before you repeat that over and over? cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #16
No, do you? boston bean May 2016 #20
When I ask what nominee, I'm basing my question on reality. There IS no nominee AT THIS MOMENT. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #24
No matter how long a crazy old man screams about the winter, spring comes. Maru Kitteh May 2016 #36
If Hillary is the nominee it will be a big step backwards Time for change May 2016 #68
LOOOOOL GeorgiaPeanuts May 2016 #4
How is the OP pushing away Millenials? upaloopa May 2016 #12
Tell that to Clinton, who has made demographic division a hallmark of her campaign Armstead May 2016 #59
I am not sure that pushing away non-voters has much impact DrDan May 2016 #33
pushing away malcontents aint pushing away millenials.. beachbum bob May 2016 #40
Pushing away "malcontents"? That sure sounds Nixonian Armstead May 2016 #60
"Expect some push back" bkkyosemite May 2016 #5
K&R! stonecutter357 May 2016 #6
The vichy Dems need to go. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #8
Isn’t that the truth?! Vote2016 May 2016 #44
I agree Renew Deal May 2016 #13
Moral Superiority is Soooo 1999 Meteor Man May 2016 #14
Ayup. Like we ought to just take that shit lying down. boston bean May 2016 #15
That's why Hillary's comments yesterday were so important Renew Deal May 2016 #17
there's a difference between being respected, liked, bullied and threatened. Exilednight May 2016 #23
You're order is wrong. Renew Deal May 2016 #26
what I want is Sanders presidency with both houses Exilednight May 2016 #32
That's fine. I can push harder. hellofromreddit May 2016 #18
How profound. libtodeath May 2016 #19
Ya know. Months of Sanders attacking and insulting Democrats as a whole is gonna cause issues. seabeyond May 2016 #21
If it did cause issues for hrc they are the only issues she or her supporters have discussed so far SwampG8r May 2016 #25
Why wouldnt it cause problem for all of the Democratic party being attacked and insulted seabeyond May 2016 #35
What kind of Pidgin English is this? My Good Babushka May 2016 #22
It's Palin-speak Martin Eden May 2016 #34
lol! Vote2016 May 2016 #43
Hillary is the plan, always has been. Ron Green May 2016 #27
It would seem so. Especially considering the phone call between Trump and Bill Clinton before Trump GoneFishin May 2016 #56
As usual you say what needs to be said!!! rbrnmw May 2016 #28
What well thought out and informing points you made. liberalnarb May 2016 #29
What nominee? Shadowflash May 2016 #30
Freudian slip. Even before the primary started the DNC never had any intention of letting voters GoneFishin May 2016 #58
You are SO correct. Shadowflash May 2016 #67
So you really don't want our votes? rogerashton May 2016 #31
There is no nominee. ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #37
What nominee? jillan May 2016 #38
Kudos for the phrase "Revolutin Tootin". barrow-wight May 2016 #39
When you shit on FDR's legacy, don't be surprised if real Democrats doubt your bone fides. Vote2016 May 2016 #41
FDR's legacy? wyldwolf May 2016 #52
We don't have a nominee as yet. And the bias shown by the DNC calls for repercussions. Betty Karlson May 2016 #42
I love the status quo Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #45
Loving the status quo is hating millennials. Betty Karlson May 2016 #47
What gets me is that people who aren't Democrats, have never been Democrats, baldguy May 2016 #46
No: Sanders fans are old-fashioned Democrats, who want Third Way to stop crapping all over the tent. Betty Karlson May 2016 #48
Sanders was **N E V E R** a Democrat. baldguy May 2016 #49
But a lot of his supporters WERE - for a long time. His young supporters could be - if we are clever Betty Karlson May 2016 #50
He just won the closed Oregon primary by 12 points. You smear the Democrats of my State Bluenorthwest May 2016 #55
Your phony outrage would be more believable baldguy May 2016 #57
You are personally attaking me because you have no actual defense for the OP's smearing Bluenorthwest May 2016 #61
Right, Sanders fans can say any ugly, evil thing that pops into their heads baldguy May 2016 #62
Smear, characterize, ramble but never do you cite, quote or link. Bluenorthwest May 2016 #63
Where Bernie wants the Party to go is where most Americans want the Party to go. Time for change May 2016 #69
Given the fact that Obama won decisive majorities the last two cycles, that's doubtful. baldguy May 2016 #70
ever notice how tantrum throwin' kids scream louder when you tell them NO? wyldwolf May 2016 #51
This Party has as yet no nominee. My State just voted for Bernie by 12 points so far, closed Bluenorthwest May 2016 #53
 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
66. No other words are needed. It's useless flame bait.
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:40 PM
May 2016

Posted just to piss off other posters. And it's all this poster does.

There is no judge and jury here, get off it.

Response to boston bean (Reply #7)

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
24. When I ask what nominee, I'm basing my question on reality. There IS no nominee AT THIS MOMENT.
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:06 AM
May 2016

So, heel clicks, nose wiggles, voodoo dolls, elixirs, magic wands, and any other wishful bullshit are not necessary.

How about you? Reality, or soon to be reality (with a wish thrown in)?

Maru Kitteh

(28,303 posts)
36. No matter how long a crazy old man screams about the winter, spring comes.
Sat May 21, 2016, 02:42 AM
May 2016

It's spring in Montana. I woke up to snow a week ago today and it was well beyond description.



For those hours, it looked to those who know not any better to be winter. It could be "proven" to be winter with photographs like this. But it is not winter, or course.

The snow melted away with the morning sun. It's not winter. And the world and it's people move forward. Step by step.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
4. LOOOOOL
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:08 AM
May 2016

Push away the Millenials! The democratic party will never win another election with that attitude.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
12. How is the OP pushing away Millenials?
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:18 AM
May 2016

There are others beside Millenials who have important issues that need to be considered. We need to work as a whole, Millenials, Seniors and everyone in between.

Dividing us into factions is not a winning proposition.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
40. pushing away malcontents aint pushing away millenials..
Sat May 21, 2016, 05:53 AM
May 2016

fostering the hate...and issuing nonstop threats don't win points with the majority of democrats....if some of the millennials want to have trump as president...so be it....THEY will paying the MAJOR price for that decision

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
60. Pushing away "malcontents"? That sure sounds Nixonian
Sat May 21, 2016, 10:30 AM
May 2016

"Nattering Nabobs of negativism...." -- Spiro Agnew



Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
8. The vichy Dems need to go.
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:12 AM
May 2016

I'll be glad when that's done. Sanders is just the first move. Don't want to be a real Dem, there's the Repub party for that.

Renew Deal

(81,803 posts)
13. I agree
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:18 AM
May 2016

I don't know why people think that they can say all these terrible things about the Democratic Party and not deserve a response. Their perceived moral superiority blinds them.

Meteor Man

(385 posts)
14. Moral Superiority is Soooo 1999
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:22 AM
May 2016

Those horrible children with their quaint moral purity expectations are ruining everything!

Renew Deal

(81,803 posts)
17. That's why Hillary's comments yesterday were so important
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:23 AM
May 2016

She correctly pushed Sanders off the pedistal and people respect her for it.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
23. there's a difference between being respected, liked, bullied and threatened.
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:04 AM
May 2016

Hillary eventually discovered that threatening us with a Trump presidency didn't work. Clinton surrogates tried the bully tactic and that didn't work.

Now she's deciding to take a stand and attempt defiance, but that doesn't work either.

Eventually she will have to respect our decisions or I have to live with her disappointment. I'm not going to lose any sleep over her disappointment.

Renew Deal

(81,803 posts)
26. You're order is wrong.
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:12 AM
May 2016

"threatening us with a Trump presidency." This hasn't happened yet, but it will work.

"Clinton surrogates tried the bully tactic and that didn't work." I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but if you mean Nevada, the last few days have shown it's worked better than could be expected.

"stand and attempt defiance". She's not doing this. This is Bernie's tactic and he was just bulldozed.

You claim it is her disappointment, but it is really yours you are talking about. Not only do you not want her to win the primary. You don't want her to win the general election.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
32. what I want is Sanders presidency with both houses
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:16 AM
May 2016

Filled with people like him.

I know that won't happen, so I'm left with the reality. The Trump has broken all the candidate rules and wrapped it up on his end. What has Hillary done?

 

hellofromreddit

(1,182 posts)
18. That's fine. I can push harder.
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:24 AM
May 2016

But given the extreme crying about how "mean" Bernie has been to Clinton, I suspect you won't like the harder pushing.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
21. Ya know. Months of Sanders attacking and insulting Democrats as a whole is gonna cause issues.
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:50 AM
May 2016

Ya think? He ought to at least be a big enough man to own it.

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
25. If it did cause issues for hrc they are the only issues she or her supporters have discussed so far
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:12 AM
May 2016

Issues are usually what she runs from
When she isnt flip flopping on them

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
35. Why wouldnt it cause problem for all of the Democratic party being attacked and insulted
Fri May 20, 2016, 12:10 PM
May 2016

continuously and why would you or Sanders or anyone else expect different results? Really, seriously.... Why would any of us take attacks and insults lightly as they claim to be part of the whole.

Ron Green

(9,821 posts)
27. Hillary is the plan, always has been.
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:13 AM
May 2016

The Democratic Party "and our nominee" have been part and parcel of a move to keep government corporate- friendly. Trump's media circus is part of it as well.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
56. It would seem so. Especially considering the phone call between Trump and Bill Clinton before Trump
Sat May 21, 2016, 10:08 AM
May 2016

entered.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
29. What well thought out and informing points you made.
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:14 AM
May 2016

Seriously what the hell is the point of OPs like this? Trying to pull a Barbara Boxer and get the crowd all riled up so you can play the victim?

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
30. What nominee?
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:15 AM
May 2016

Unless I missed it, no one has reached the number of required pledged delegates, yet, to win anything.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
58. Freudian slip. Even before the primary started the DNC never had any intention of letting voters
Sat May 21, 2016, 10:13 AM
May 2016

choose the nominee. especially not one that would use tax money to improve the lives of the taxpayers.

That money is earmarked for taxpayer funded Goldman Sachs bonuses.

rogerashton

(3,918 posts)
31. So you really don't want our votes?
Fri May 20, 2016, 10:15 AM
May 2016

Well, I for one am going to vote for the Democratic nominee whether you like it or not.

But -- push as many of us "back" out of the party as you can, and say Hello to President Trump. Your decision.

barrow-wight

(744 posts)
39. Kudos for the phrase "Revolutin Tootin".
Sat May 21, 2016, 02:51 AM
May 2016

It's disappointing that some are going so scorched earth in all this. I see at least one call for violent revolution in my Facebook newsfeed daily. Then I go and look at their picture and think, yeah, not gonna happen.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
42. We don't have a nominee as yet. And the bias shown by the DNC calls for repercussions.
Sat May 21, 2016, 05:56 AM
May 2016

So shove that status quo humping into the same closet as the presumptions about the convention results, lock the closet, and throw away the key.

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
45. I love the status quo
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:15 AM
May 2016

Bernie is talking about what he will ask for at the convention so obviously even he knows who the nominee is

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
47. Loving the status quo is hating millennials.
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:29 AM
May 2016

You should feel very little and very ashamed of yourself.

As for Bernie telling what he will ask for: it's what he has campaigned for. Glad to hear he still does that. He should get the nomination, so he can administrate it too.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
46. What gets me is that people who aren't Democrats, have never been Democrats,
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:08 AM
May 2016

And have been attacking Democrats for decades, think they can come into the Democratic Party as a minority and still dictate to everyone already there where the Party gets to go.

It's one thing to see the people outside the tent pissing in, and invite them in so they're inside the tent pissing out. But Sanders fans want to be inside the tent pissing inside the tent.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
48. No: Sanders fans are old-fashioned Democrats, who want Third Way to stop crapping all over the tent.
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:31 AM
May 2016

And then Third Way, halfway foisting another turd on FDR values, has the gall to accuse Sanders' supporters of pissing inside the tent when all they do is turn on a water hose to clean up the mess.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
49. Sanders was **N E V E R** a Democrat.
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:35 AM
May 2016

And nearly half of the people voting for him will be supporting Trump in November. "Old-fashioned" Democrats, my ass.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
50. But a lot of his supporters WERE - for a long time. His young supporters could be - if we are clever
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:38 AM
May 2016

Your ass should certainly acquaint itself with old-fashioned Democrats. And now that the old progressive left is once more alive and kicking, your ass (as well as DWS's ass and Clinton's ass and the rest of the assinine stable) they might all acquaint themselves with those living and kicking progressives.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
55. He just won the closed Oregon primary by 12 points. You smear the Democrats of my State
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:57 AM
May 2016

and that's nasty.

Smears, unsubstantiated bullshit malicious intention. That is part of the political style and ethic that we Oregonians just rejected so strongly. Clearly we did the right thing.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
57. Your phony outrage would be more believable
Sat May 21, 2016, 10:11 AM
May 2016

If Sanders fans didn't regularly smear Democrats, the Democratic Party and the presumed Democratic nominee as fascists, Nazis, Republicans and worse, and just as regularly use the same RW lies, the same RW talking points, and the same RW tactics as the GOP nominee, and if your candidate didn't intentionally draw a huge amount of support from people who hate the Democratic Party and everything it stands for & has ever accomplished.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
61. You are personally attaking me because you have no actual defense for the OP's smearing
Sat May 21, 2016, 10:41 AM
May 2016

of millions of Democratic Sanders voters. I'm a Democrat from a family of Democrats. I live in a Democratic State that just voted for Democrat Bernie Sanders. You smear me, a Democrat, and my Democratic candidate as well as all who have voted for him, including many entire States.

Take a look at the returns. Any Democrat best assume and hope that most who vote for either one will vote for whichever is the nominee because if they don't our nominee can't win. To take any State from Trump that person will need both camps, not entirely but mostly. The way you carry on serves Trump's goals very well. Very. What you do is not helping Hillary, it's hurting her. It's not helping Bernie. It's helping Trump.

The very tactics you and bean are playing are part of why your candidate lost Oregon, Washington, Hawaii. Colorado. States that are not into that aggressive negativity that seems to delight the North East voters so. Congratulations on that, it was helpful.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
62. Right, Sanders fans can say any ugly, evil thing that pops into their heads
Sat May 21, 2016, 10:48 AM
May 2016

But they're the only ones subject to personal attacks.



Meanwhile you got Trump's pod people spiking the Dem primaries by voting for Sanders (like WV), and Sanders is happy to milk it for all it's worth.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
63. Smear, characterize, ramble but never do you cite, quote or link.
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:00 AM
May 2016

You speak of things not in evidence while I speak of the fact that you and the OP are insulting Oregon Democrats who just now voted for Bernie by 12 points in a closed and clean primary.

You and bean are denigrating millions of Democratic voters for not voting as you do. You are also taking endless personal pot shots at me. This is obviously a cover for the lack of substance in your ranting and raving.

Now go back to preaching about all the sinners you see around you, and how you are the only true Democrat. It's fun to watch.

Time for change

(13,714 posts)
69. Where Bernie wants the Party to go is where most Americans want the Party to go.
Sun May 22, 2016, 04:44 PM
May 2016

That's why Hillary has net favorability ratings of negative 19 to Bernie's +10, a 29 point difference. In case you didn't realize it, The GE is going to include a whole lot more people outside the Democratic Party than inside of it.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
70. Given the fact that Obama won decisive majorities the last two cycles, that's doubtful.
Sun May 22, 2016, 05:10 PM
May 2016

And he's made it clear who his choice for the next President should be. Clinton has unfavorable ratings because of the lies that have been said about her - something Sanders has never faced. If he was subject to the same type of propaganda, he'd be blown away like dry lead in a bonfire. Thankfully, he never will be.

Sanders has lost the nomination, Democratic voters have decided.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
53. This Party has as yet no nominee. My State just voted for Bernie by 12 points so far, closed
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:43 AM
May 2016

primary. You need to stop smearing the millions of Democrats supporting Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders. You are smearing entire States. You are characterizing democracy as being against the Democratic Party. That's vile, bully child language.

East Coast political tactics are very often rejected out West as being just shallow and mean spirited. People who do not respect other voters are seen as people who don't respect the democratic process.

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