2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHow Senate Democrats are trying to deal with Sanders
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Democrats in the room decided the best course would be to let Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid (Nev.) handle the delicate task of talking to Sanders about the increasingly negative tone of supporters of his presidential bid, according to sources familiar with what happened at the meeting....A senior Democratic aide said that thinking reflects an acknowledgement among the senators that Reid is the one member of the caucus who has an actual relationship with him.
Sanders is a political independent who caucuses with Democrats. ....The presidential candidate is not chummy with his colleagues.....Reid, however, has always been a helpful ally. He gave Sanders the full benefits of membership in the Democratic caucus after his election to the Senate in 2006, rewarding him with the committee assignments he wanted even though he was not a registered Democrat.
Reid left Tuesdays meeting early to speak to Sanders on the phone about the caucuss concerns. But after the two senators spoke, the Sanders campaign released a defiant statement...Feinstein and other Democratic senators see Reid as the ideal peacemaker to close the developing rift....Yet Tuesdays developments raise questions about the limits of Reids influence on Sanders, a fact Feinstein alluded to in saying that Sanders should defer to Reid....Reid expected Sanders to condemn outbursts ....Instead, Reid said he was surprised by the defiant response and dismissed it as a silly stunt put together by campaign staff and not representative of Sanderss views.....that explanation looked unlikely hours later when Sanders delivered a fiery stump speech .... eliciting roars of Bernie or bust! from the crowd......Reid has some credibility as a fair broker because he stayed neutral in the primary race until after the Nevada caucuses in February....One senior aide described the dynamic between Reid and Sanders as a really close personal relationship, noting several similarities between the two lawmakers that may not seem obvious ....Both have strong independent streaks.
Reid is allergic to Washingtons social circuit of receptions and dinners that draw many members of Congress.....Sanders is also something of a loner who shows little interest in hanging out with lobbyists.....
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/280445-how-senate-democrats-are-trying-to-deal-with-sanders
dchill
(38,609 posts)2. She asked for it.
When you boo me, you're booing Barbara Boxer.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,821 posts)dchill
(38,609 posts)Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. She actually asked for it.
NanceGreggs
(27,821 posts)scscholar
(2,902 posts)dchill
(38,609 posts)Sue me. I'm a Democrat.
TwilightZone
(25,517 posts)Ah, the siren song of the spousal abuser. Nice choice.
dchill
(38,609 posts)If you didn't, you should. Barbara Boxer came to incite, insult and condescend. When she insulted the audience, what did she expect? Genuflection? No, she got what she asked for.
TwilightZone
(25,517 posts)In the midst of misogynistic comments and threats of violence to women, their kids, and their families, you. just. don't. get. it.
dchill
(38,609 posts)I also didn't throw any chairs or subvert a state convention. Your outlandish pretend victim reaction is so typical. No one attacked or abused Senator Boxer OF CALIFORNIA. Not Nevada. Of California and the DLC. So many "victims", so little provocation.
floriduck
(2,262 posts)How dare a candidate continue his campaign while his opponent has yet to gain the necessary pledged delegates to win the nomination on her own. These people cannot use their delegate votes until the convention. Therefore, at this moment, Hillary has the lead, NOT the nomination.
This is a prime example of why Bernie supporters are losing patience with party leaders. It's that whole inevitability thing. And his opponents are not happy that Bernie hasn't folded like a lawn chair. Boo fucking hoo!
Keep posting this type of news and see how much more support Hillary loses between now and November.
griffi94
(3,733 posts)And that any federal pork going to Vermont
gets either defunded or sent somewhere else.
A good old bare knuckles backroom political beatdown.
The Democratic Party has been pretty tolerant of the antics
engaged in by the Sanders Campaign.
But now there's no path for him and he's
just attacking the party in general.
If the lashing out continues I hope he pays a steep political price for
his actions and the actions of his surrogates.
Demsrule86
(68,788 posts)He has earned it.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)He'd better have kept that list of twenty seven dollar buddies, because odds are good, if he doesn't get correct now, that he won't get a dime from any of the individual Senate PACS and the SCCC will tell him to pound sand while they endorse a fresh face that says all the right things to the increasingly irritated population of VT (particularly those under the flight path of those F-35s).
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)kcjohn1
(751 posts)Will tell you the state of Democratic party in that Lieberman kept all his committee positions despite CAMPAIGNING FOR JOHN MCCAIN.
This is not GOP/DEM fight. They all are on the same side. If you screw the establishment thought, they will come for you.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Beacool
(30,254 posts)'Suspicion is growing among Democrats that Sanders might be setting the increasingly pugilistic tone for his campaign himself.
The burn it down attitude, the upping the ante, everything we saw in that statement released [Tuesday] by the campaign seems to be coming from Sanders himself. Right from the top, wrote Josh Marshall, a prominent left-leaning journalist, who cited multiple highly knowledgeable, highly placed people.
Democratic senators have given Sanders a wide berth so far, treading carefully on the question of whether he should drop out of the race due to Clintons overwhelming delegate lead.'
Sanders IS the one stoking the flames of his supporters' discontent. He knows full well that he won't have more pledged delegates than Hillary, and yet, he continues to attack her. He outright lied on Tuesday when he told his followers at a rally in CA that he could still end up with the majority of pledged delegates. Who is he kidding???
Then there's the outrageous strategy of the two weasels who run his campaign. Devine and Weaver have a lot of chutzpah to suggest that the super delegates should switch, from the candidate they already support, to the candidate who is way behind in both pledged delegates and the popular vote. Their criteria being that Sanders does better in match-up polls against Trump, polls that in May mean absolutely squat in a general election.
This is one crazy election season, with Sanders on the Left and Trump on the Right.