2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMy senator Jeff Merkely.. Bernie's only endorsement
I am a Hillary supporter, when Merkely endorsed Bernie, I was not happy but I recognized that was his decision and I knew and said Oregon could not have a better senator. I like him. Anyway, He recently said if Bernie was not closing the gap by the time all votes are counted he should support and endorse Hillary. He also called for unity. Well... Guess what. He is being Trashed and harassed on his facebook page for those comments. Why???? Is it not enough that he endorsed and spoke good about Bernie? Can anyone tell me why Bernie supporters do this?
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)fun n serious
(4,451 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Of course, I will vote. But don't expect me to support, as in GOTV, a nominee I do not believe in.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)At least, for me.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)directed at Merkely - sad that it has come to this
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)Disgusting
Aerows
(39,961 posts)witnessing ugly words said by someone you don't know about someone you also don't know. Gosh, do you think you will survive the horrible tongue-lashing you witnessed a politician receive?
I've never in my life heard a story about a politician having something rude said about them. Except every damn day.
Politics aren't for the feint of heart on a *good* day.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)to make the post I replied to, and then to reply to me again with that little gem.
You poor shrinking violet, my heart bleeds for you. NOT.
Don't tempt me to pull up posts you've made that reflect the same attitude you are now complaining about, because you know well and good that there are plenty of examples under your screen name.
Classy. As if.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)you probably have some more terrible posts attached to your name than I initially envisioned.
OMG - Aerows threatened to link to my posts, how horribly wronged I've been!
Demsrule86
(68,788 posts)You lost-voters don't agree with you ...the supers won't overturn anything and you accomplish nothing which is why sensible people steer clear of 'movement'...all they do is shaft everyone else. Like Bernie attacking Hillary which gets him exactly nothing and hurts the American people.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)griffi94
(3,733 posts)Like many of Bernies supporters here.
oasis
(49,480 posts)his party's nominee.
Renew Deal
(81,897 posts)And eventually they will turn on Bernie. It's just a matter of time.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Anything besides a newsweek article with no source? If so, I will stand corrected.
scscholar
(2,902 posts)It's how things be.
Ron Green
(9,823 posts)Many people who support Bernie understand that President Hillary Clinton will be as dangerous for the future of the country and the world as any choice available. They're fighting for the survival of the planet.
Most of Hillary's supporters are looking through a completely different lens.
Demsrule86
(68,788 posts)The kind that think Trump is an 'alternative'.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)I did find these:
Carolyn Gray: He's not a socialist - maybe you could consult a dictionary?
Natalie Miller: Read Michelle Goldberg article on what the Republicans will use against Bernie Sanders he was a communist .a hard core Communist. He belonged to Communist a of America until 2012'
ETA: This is the only negative comment I can find my a Bernie supporter. Exaggerate much?
You see how it might be a problem to extrapolate this to all supporters of Bernie? By these snippets and your logic we can conclude that the supporters of all the remaining candidates are all horrible people.
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)Trump supporters, Bernie supporters and like 2 Hillary supporters. He is a good senator. There really is no better. He doesn't deserve it
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Your OP, as amended in view of my previous post could be reduced to "people of all political persuasions are assholes on the internet"
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)serve the OP's intentions.
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)I looked again,, It's only Trump and Sanders supporters. No Hillary.
blm
(113,131 posts)and their ilk who have been pulling this game on social media sites for the last 3 presidential primaries. This one has been the most widespread and the worst.
Bernie supporters have been out of control for a while...this is not a conspiracy...this is Bernie supporters and I blame Sanders for giving false hope...he won't win and only makes things worse.
blm
(113,131 posts)Though I do think the vitriol has been upped.
I didn't say EVERY Sanders poster acting badly is a GOP op, did I?
The problem with many here at DU is that you don't adhere to the common sense rule that pointing out the bad behavior of SOME doesn't mean ALL. Pointing out the good behavior of SOME doesn't mean ALL.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)know Jeff and the rest don't really matter. Facebook, Twitter, these are not good sources for knowing the world or seeing what matters.
If you see a person from 'tribe X' being rude, is it fair to ask 'why are people from tribe X rude'? This is your basic question and it has dubious roots. Consider other groups with noxious individuals. Is it fair to hold out the behavior of one or a few and question the larger group about that? Isn't that what Trump does to Muslims and to Mexicans?
Dubious mindset, something I'd consider and consider well.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Anyway, it appears the thread has been abandoned, as the BS was too easily countered.
LoverOfLiberty
(1,438 posts)And Hillary supporter. I also support Merkely and have absolutely no problem with him endorsing and supporting Sanders.
I am very confident he will back Hillary once the primary season has concluded.
Nanjeanne
(5,004 posts)rude comments like "I used to support you but now you support a socialist and he's not even a Democrat" . . . Kind of think that one is a Clinton supporter. I see some other rude ones but when I click on their names - looks like a tea party advocate.
This harrassment must be in the eyes of the beholder.
leftinportland
(247 posts)Jeff is my Senator too and I just checked his Facebook page and do not see people trashing or harassing him for his comments. Unless you want to post a screen shot or two I suggest you shut up.
cali
(114,904 posts)eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)BootinUp
(47,211 posts)it does makes a diff. What they don't realize, is Merkely and a lot of Democrats are standing on their principles and no twitter war is going to help. Might even be a backlash effect.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)I looked at his Facebook page and couldn't even find a reference to that. Maybe I didn't scroll down far enough (went to mid April) or something.
All i could find were posts on otehr matters, and some people agreeing or disagreeing with him on the subject of the posts. No great Swarm of Bernie Supporters attacking him enmasse.
Maybe I missed something.
MineralMan
(146,350 posts)to the point that they think the super delegates should throw out the primary results and vote in a candidate who did not get the majority of pledged delegates and popular votes. They believe that Hillary Clinton is so bad that the voters' collective will should be ignored because they know better than the voters.
So, they get angry when they don't get their way, and post ugly and sometimes vile things to super delegates who do do as they wish. It's a useless exercise, of course, and only hardens the resolve of those super delegates who currently support Clinton. Now, as they did in 2008, many super delegates will change their vote if their preferred candidate doesn't get the majority of pledged delegates, who are allocated according to the vote in their states. They did that for President Obama in 2008, validating the will of the voters. They would do the same in 2016 if Bernie Sanders had the majority of pledged delegates.
But Sanders will not have that majority. When the convention opens, Hillary Clinton will have the majority of both pledged delegates and the popular vote from states that hold primary elections and some caucus states. Other caucus states don't record popular vote, but still allocate delegates according to the votes at the caucuses, so it's the same thing.
Extremely zealous Sanders supporters will no doubt insist that they know best, though, so there will be demonstrations and protests outside of the Democratic Convention. Those will not affect what happens on the convention floor, however, where the will of the voters in all 50 states and other jurisdictions will be the deciding factor. Democracy will prevail on the convention floor.