2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHas the Hillary campaign ever started a single argument over ISSUES?
'Cause what I'm seeing is still a lot of tone policing.
"Oooooh, some of Bernie's supporters in Nevada got rowdy and used bad words; therefore, Hillary is more qualified to be president!"
Meanwhile, Bernie's supporters are angry about the overt bias of the DNC, million-dollar speeches, the collusion between their "charity" and her actions as SoS, fracking, the working poor, WalMart, destabilizing the Middle East and Central America, Henry Fucking Kissinger, trade policies that shaft American workers, "superpredators," and her rogue actions as SoS which undercut Obama.
If Hillary has a problem with Bernie's policies, why not challenge him on those?
Why resort to tone policing?
onecaliberal
(32,991 posts)elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Baobab
(4,667 posts)cutting into profits. So they will use fake crises and guest worker programs to beat down US wages.
onecaliberal
(32,991 posts)AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)and we don't like it ONE BIT
bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)But she gave that up because she had to pivot in the states with more gun owners.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Hillary hasn't said crap about Nevada.
Second of all, why would Hillary challenge Bernie's policies at this point? The race is over. She's won. She hasn't mentioned Bernie in about a month. She's focused on the GE.
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Bernie has not idea that he would need a Democrat majority in the Senate to get anything done. He has done nothing to help in getting that done. It has all been about Bernie, Bernie, and more Bernie.
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tonyt53
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guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Someone obviously miscopied from the script.
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mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)Did they give you your cookie?
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)"Ask again later because I don't like your tone" to every question.
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)"Did Goldman-Sachs approve?"
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)DU is not the "Hillary Campaign"...
azmom
(5,208 posts)them.
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XemaSab
(60,212 posts)It was racist when Obama got a yuuuuuuuuuuge percent of the Black vote in '08, and it's racist when Bernie's getting the white vote in 2016.
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)This is handicap for her campaign obviously.
For example, $15 per hour minimum wage -- what is Hillary's position in 12 words or less? Can't be done so pick one of these instead:
a) I don't like your tone
b) That's sexist! (doesn't have to fit or make sense)
c) You're helping Trump!
d) I feel sorry for anyone who believes my opponent's answer
Dem2
(8,168 posts)If you're using a political site where the 85% are constantly attacking the 15% (Hillary supporters), then your perspective is ridiculously skewed.
procon
(15,805 posts)Questions asked and then answered by yourself, so what do you really want... just sympathy from well wishers?
Otherwise, to respond, do you really mean, "campaign", as in everyone on on her campaign staff should be start arguments?
Do you mean Hillary should go around arbitrarily starting arguments, and if so, who is she supposed to argue with?
Define "tone policing". I've never seen this term, is it some snark thing that you just made to avoid criticisms?
Look here, Hillary has ads challenging Sanders policies, she criticises them in interviews, and addresses his positions in her meetup speeches. If you aren't even aware of what she is doing, then it would seem that your mishmash criticisms are misplaced and grossly unfair.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Vincardog
(20,234 posts)The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)but good try.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)The last thing Hillary wants to do is debate Bernie Sanders over the TPP and health insurance plans. She can't win.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Ron Green
(9,823 posts)"Issues" don't matter, it's all about the narrative. The media are fully on board with Trump/Clinton, and will move us toward the "sane" choice just in time.
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HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)changing a damned thing!"???????
Seriously.
Which makes all the talk about her moving to the left or whatever pointless.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)To the campaign. Clinton has been talking about the issues and her plans every single day. She often politely makes distinction between her and Sanders approach. Their campaigns have had media back and forths many times. It happens all the time. You are commenting on a primary you aren't even paying attention to.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)These are truly daily occurrences and they are wondering if it has happened.
I don't want to say they are in a parallel universe as the op has some really good posts on a number of topics. I'm simply saying in order for them to hold the thoughts they are in the on they can't be watching the primary at all.
scscholar
(2,902 posts)so you have to resort to using what they will cover.