2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumQuestion for Bernie supporters.
Are there any Bernie supporters here who believe that if Hillary ends up with more elected delegates after the June primaries then she should actually be the nominee, by reasoning that she was chosen by the voters? Or is it more or less a unanimous opinion that the superdelegates should overturn the votes and make Bernie the nominee because of alleged fraud, polls vs Trump, closed primaries, emails, or any other reason.
Perogie
(687 posts)YouDig
(2,280 posts)highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)nominee till we know more, from the FBI itself. Hopefully this will happen before the convention.
I am not in some big rush to declare either Bernie or Hillary champ.
One thing we could all work on right now is the party platform. What should it be? Should it go tacking back to the Right, or should it build on the best that both candidates have come up with. Parameters could be mutually fleshed out right now.
That is, unless the Party is seeking to effectively disenfranchise half the people who have participated in the primaries.
That could be their idiot child, refugee from the 90's kind of thinking, but that is not the way to think this year.
They could be doing better, and there is no reason to know the victory right now. You folks keep saying that her policies are virtually the same.
PROVE IT FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!!!
YouDig
(2,280 posts)highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)withdraw.
I'm sure that seems unthinkable, but I work in Hollywood, and we get paid to tell stories that present the unthinkable. That's what makes them entertaining.
And you know what? Life comes up with stories that are even more unbelievable than ours ALL THE TIME!!!
YouDig
(2,280 posts)clearly and apparently devastating, as you put it, then she should drop out.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)get rid of SDs and go by pop vote, imo, even if the candidates I support never win an election ever again.
I support democracy in its truest form--BY THE PEOPLE, even if I disagree with the majority selection.
Shadowflash
(1,536 posts)thinks that, if one of them ends up with the correct amount of delegates to get the nom, then the other should concede. Whether before, or at, the convention.
There are easy to follow rules for this process and they should be played out to the end.
Proud Public Servant
(2,097 posts)I have no problem with Hillary receiving the nomination based on her higher pledged delegate count and popular vote totals. I have no problem voting for her in the fall.
If the superdelegates feel differently, though, and deny the crown to the candidate for whom the DNC is clearly in the bag, that would be just deserts for the DNC and DWS's shameful and ill-concealed bias.