2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumGet Control, Senator Sanders, or Get Out
Violence. Death threats. Vile, misogynistic names screamed at women. Rage. Hatred. Menacing, anonymous phone calls to homes and offices. Public officials whisked offstage by security agents frightened of the growing mob. None of this has any place in a political campaign. And the candidate who has been tolerating this obscene behavior among his supporters is showing himself to be unfit for office.
So, Senator Sanders, either get control of what is becoming your increasingly unhinged cult or get out of the race. Whatever respect sane liberals had for you is rapidly dwindling, and the damage being inflicted on your reputation may be unfixable. If you cant even manage the vicious thugs who act in your name, you cant be trusted to run a convenience store, much less the country.
When Bernie Sanders launched his presidential campaign, he seemed to be the kind of candidate who would inspire voters from the liberal blocs of the Democratic Party, push the party leftward and influence the future direction of politicseither as the nominee or as a force for change. But Sanders has increasingly signaled that he is in this race for Sanders, and day after day shows himself to be a whining crybaby with little interest in a broader movement. His viciousand often ridiculousattacks on the party whenever he doesnt win a contest have inspired a level of ignorant fanaticism among a large swath of his supporters that is becoming more akin to what might be seen at an out-of-control rally for Donald Trump. Signs are emerging that the Sanders campaign is transmogrifying into the type of movement through which tyrants are born.
The ugly was on display at the recent state convention of the Nevada Democratic Party, where Hillary Clinton won more delegates than Sanders. Now, this should hardly have been a surprise to anyone except the Sandernistas, whose certainty in their righteousness has overwhelmed any commitment they may have ever had to democracy. Sanders lost the Nevada caucuses in February by more than 5 percent. A rational person who cared about the will of the people would presume that Clinton would emerge from the state with the most delegates. But Sanders supporters were outragedoutraged!that the person with the largest number of votes ended up with the largest share of delegates.
http://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-get-control-get-out-race-461195
arcane1
(38,613 posts)I think some of these fools are just jealous that Sanders doesn't have to purchase supporters
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)instead of doing it gratis?
arcane1
(38,613 posts)She doesn't get to purchase followers with taxpayer money anymore.
Ohioblue22
(1,430 posts)Screaming about wanting their country back , don't tread on me and other such banalities
larkrake
(1,674 posts)Time for change
(13,718 posts)wildeyed
(11,243 posts)Did everyone else get Raptured and only Bernie folk thinkers are left (or just on the left?), or did the Bernie folk thinkers teleport into the future somehow Or are do they all turn left in the future?
kiva
(4,373 posts)Hillary needs to get those women-punching supporters under control!
larkrake
(1,674 posts)Hillary does all the time in her foreign policy. You cannot blame Bernie for outraged people
QC
(26,371 posts)whose leader calls himself "Second Coming Christ" would disapprove of a progressive candidate.
http://www.motherjones.com/media/2014/03/newsweek-ibt-olivet-david-jang
http://observer.com/2013/08/moonies-messiahs-and-media-who-really-owns-newsweek/
Time for change
(13,718 posts)and witnessed what happened. There was absolutely no violence on the part of Bernie supporters. One picked up a chair, and the others immediately stopped him from doing what he was contemplating.
The reports of violence by Bernie supporters are totally fabricated by the media to discredit him.
Bernie delegates at the Convention were protesting the utter lawlessness with which the Clinton surrogates in charge of the Convention handled it. There is currently a lawsuit pending on that. I hope those responsible for that lawlessness go to prison and stay there for a very long time. That's where they belong. Not people who were conducting a peaceful, though loud, protest.
Demsrule86
(68,696 posts)I have read his blog...he is not lying...and you all have no right to delegates you lost in the caucus...so cry me a river. The behavior of the Sanders supporters caught on video is disgusting. Your guy lost, the sooner you move on and do the right thing or not, the better.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)you are falling for the mushroom clouds over an American city narrative, 2016 edition, or the Dean Scream, 2016 edition.
Yurovsky
(2,064 posts)they don't want to hear any facts that counter the narrative spoon-fed them by Team Clinton/Goldman Sachs.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)that told me I had no idea because I would never put skin in the game. Well my husband was in the front lines. Well, these folks tell me I am privileged and cannot understand, But I post a full throated why this is well beyond the election and they try to derail it. Here you go.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511994370
Not a one post from their side actually addressing the issues.
On the bright side, they gave me a good laugh.
Time for change
(13,718 posts)If you think that was disgusting you ought to be a Republican
Demsrule86
(68,696 posts)Every word is true...the press has been coddling Sanders for some unknown reason...and his entitled behavior has to stop...get out Sanders.
TransitJohn
(6,932 posts)are spinning their narrative is dizzying. Is this satire?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)living quarters ransacked, and fans assaulted (That happened to the Sanders HQ and a fan of Sanders)
Oh and I forgot, if we do not fight them over there, we will fight them here, and mushroom clouds over American Cities.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)C&P
[bSo many delicate flowers in the least likely of places is absolutely terrifying.
These folks are responsible for making life changing decisions that effect the health and welfare of individual citizens and they decide what the effect this country's actions (or inaction) have upon the world's population. These folks' decisions send our people to fight for wars created to appease the 1%ers not our country's safety.
Spare me terrified and distressed noblewoman and nobleman bullshit.
People boo.
People also do other stupid shit but until you have identified these people or have someone arrested for threatening someone, don't you dare find fault in our inability to believe your gospel.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)The reputation for violence is being manufactured by the Hillaryites.
Lange needs to explain what I describe in the post I link to above.
Was she trying to incite violence in Nevada?
Shandris
(3,447 posts)...only to find that there is no such thing. Alas, that lesson often comes far too late.
So then, about this topic. 'Get control'. LOL. And how do you propose he do that? How do you propose ANYONE do that?
How do you propose, under any circumstance whatsoever, to prevent someone from 'rabble rousing'? How do you prevent someone from going to a Hillary gathering, for instance, and 'screaming obscenities at women'? How do you prove they're an authentic Bernie Supporter?
Oh, that's right. Ya can't. Because no matter how much you research online, the long con can last longer. People online have identities that stretch all the way back to the days before 'PUT ALL YOUR INFO ONLINE FOR ADVERTISERS!" became the mentality. People in the real world routinely cover their true beliefs to keep the Twitter brigade from descending on them and to keep others unaware in RL.
No, there is no "control". It's not possible. I know it, you probably know it, the author of this piece should know it. So since we all know there is no control, then, that leaves only one possibility.
This article is propaganda meant for ulterior purposes...which, interestingly enough, is being performed for the purpose of attempting to CONTROL (or 'massage', in this case) people's reactions. IOW...the lesson I alluded to in the opening two sentences is the one this very author has yet to learn. How delicious.