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This is fantastic. Any doubt now, Berniebots, that the calls and texts were your peeps?
I imagine more of these stories will drip out. This man--Ethan wants his privacy but had no morals when he left a threatening message. His story is unbelievable. I just shake my head!!
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We Called Up Bernie Fans Who Threatened Nevada Dem State Chair and Asked Them to Explain Themselves
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Anna Merlan
Today 11:15amFiled to: nevada
Thanks to some extremely zealous Bernie Sanders supporters, the Nevada State Democratic Convention this past weekend was a particularly epic disaster, devolving into yelling, graffiti, chair-throwing and many, many threats and insults phoned in to Democratic State Party Chairwoman Roberta Lange. Yesterday, we called some of the threat-makers back, to get some insight into why they thought that was a good plan.
.............We know where you live, where you work, where you eat, another text to Lange read. Where your kids go to school/grandkids. We have everything on you. We are your neighbors, friends, family, etc.
The person who sent that one is a 26-year-old named Ethan with a Wisconsin area code, although he assured me the number was fake (and, I assume, the name was as well).
Do you know what the concept of Anonymous is? he asked me, immediately.
I said that I did. Ethan explained hed been undertaking an Anonymous-esque action, but also, that he was trying to play a threatening character deliberately, to send a message.
She is very much a top person, Ethan said, referring to Lange. The establishment and people like her have been on the internet themselves writing posts that try to incite hate. Try to incite frustration. They pay off trolls to start problems and stuff like that. (For example, a pro-Hillary PAC spent $1 million to hire people to correct Facebook and Reddit commenters.)
Ethans purpose was to represent angry people, he told me, not to express his own views.
I created a character, a scarykind of a Jason kind of character, he explained. Looking at what the establishment is afraid of, a scary Joker-like character whos like the boogeyman under their bed.
I told him I thought anyone would probably be alarmed by those texts; that I, as someone who voted Sanders, found them alarming and wrong-headed and a generally bad response to a convention that didnt break Sanders way.
I understand where youre coming from, he replied. But people are getting frustrated and I only have $300 to my name. I have no ability to get anymore help than I can. Ive been working and breaking my back over this, he said, meaning supporting Sanders.
Ethan has bad disabilities, he explained, one of which makes it impossible for him to work. I heard people tell me Im lazy, Im useless. I cant even go to college.
In the midst of all that, he said, my intent was to give her back what she and the establishment have been doing for the last few days.
I told Ethan that to me he sounded frustrated and disaffected and a little lonely. I asked if maybe Lange had come to stand in for a whole bunch of things that werent working well, personally and politically.
Its not that, he said. It doesnt matter if youre in Nevada or in Washington. If youre working for the government, you need to understand that people are frustrated. The threats, he said, were a warning.
If you dont listen to the people, this is going to happen, he said. People get so frustrated. Theyll find out where some of these people live and itll be a huge bloody revolt. You need to listen before it turns into that.
Who are you talking to? and older womans voice shouted worriedly from the background.
Please dont tell anyone my name, Ethan said, as we hung up. I like my privacy.........
YouDig
(2,280 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)YouDig
(2,280 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Unbelievable.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)uponit7771
(90,371 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)All in a clumsy, self defeating attempt at changing the subject after blatant election fraud.
polly7
(20,582 posts)riversedge
(70,441 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)riversedge
(70,441 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)I could create a new account tomorrow, like all the rest of the Brockian socks, pick up a burner tracfone at walmart, and make death threats to Tad Devine, and all the rest of Bernie's staffers-- and all the while, masquerade as a sociopathic Clinton supporter. There is no proof here, there is no meat. Anyone can be anything, and I guarantee you someone with ANY knowledge of how Anonymous worked would have known how to make an anonymous death threat.
What kind of morons do you take us for? I'm honestly a little bit insulted.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)I'm not responsible for people who act like assholes. I have no control over them.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)This was the dirty work of the infamous Bernie bro revolutionaries!
But..but DU said they were just a Jedi mind trick from Brock and the Oligarchy to keep us down man!
Well here they are in all their "glory" bern fans.
OWN IT!
catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)it takes real nerve to use ANY allegation from Jon Ralston after his ridiculous lies were exposed regarding riots and objects thrown. When I see something like this I wonder if the poster is clueless or duplicitous...