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'Bill Clinton Would Be in Charge of 'Revitalizing the Economy' Hillary Clinton Says, Fort Mitchell, KY, ABC, May 15, 2016.
Hillary Clinton has always made known that she wants Bill Clinton to have some kind of role in the White House should she become president, but over the past few weeks she's begun to reveal more about what exactly that would be.
During a campaign event in Fort Mitchell today, the Democratic presidential candidate was more blunt than ever about what her husband's role could be in a future Clinton administration saying she plans to put the former president "in charge of economic revitalization."
"My husband, who I'm going to put in charge of revitalizing the economy, cause you know he knows how to do it," Clinton told the crowd at an outdoor organizing rally. "And especially in places like coal country and inner cities and other parts of our country that have really been left out."
Clinton made similar remarks earlier this month during her first visit to Kentucky, a state where Bill Clinton remains popular among the largely white, working class voters.
"I've told my husband he's got to come out of retirement and be in charge of this because you know hes got more ideas a minute than anybody I know," she said, while talking about manufacturing and jobs.
Over the course of the campaign, Clinton has repeatedly said she would seek her husband's advice if she takes office.
Last month on ABC's "The View," she had this to say when asked about how she sees his role: "I think he'll, I hope he'll have a lot of involvement in starting the economy to really take off."
And last year, in an interview on MSNBC, she said this: "He's a great adviser and he knows as much about the economy and job creation as anyone I could talk to."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bill-clinton-charge-revitalizing-economy-hillary-clinton/story?id=39132832
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Baobab
(4,667 posts)appalachiablue
(41,188 posts)May 15, Truthout, - Thomas Frank: Bill Clinton's Five Major Accomplishments Were Longstanding GOP Objectives.-
Thomas Frank, author of Listen, Liberal, discusses the Hillary Doctrine's basis in neoliberalism, how the Democratic Party stopped governing on behalf of the working class and how President Bill Clinton's major achievements actually enacted conservative goals, and ultimately hurt working people.
Mark Karlin: The innovation class, the creative class, the wealthy class, the professional class with Ivy League degrees: How did President Obama become the avatar for believing these groups should be the decision makers in government?
Thomas Frank: Obama thinks such people should be in charge because they came up through the same system as him. "Because he himself was a product of the great American postwar meritocracy," his biographer Jonathan Alter writes, "he could never fully escape seeing the world from the status ladder he had ascended."
Most of our other Democratic leaders (the Clintons, for example) came up the same way and believe the same thing. Indeed, what Alter describes is standard-issue stuff for Democrats these days. The Democrats are a class party in the fullest sense of the phrase, and the class whose perspective they reflect and whose interests they serve is the highly educated, white-collar professional class. Theirs is a liberalism of the rich.
Can you describe a little about what you call "The Hillary Doctrine," including how microlending is a good example of her belief in opening doors of entrepreneurship to solve the world's economic problems?
..You can see the appeal of this movement: It's telling you that the solution to poverty is not unions or government or anything like that, but for everyone to work hard and start their own businesses -- and, incidentally, to extend the reach of Western financial institutions to every village on the planet. A pure win-win. Everyone feels good. Everyone feels virtuous.
Except for the people who live in those countries, of course, because they know it doesn't work. You don't build a country's economy by having everyone buy a goat and sell milk to one another. All these people have to show for this strategy is debt. Some empowerment.
I was captivated by your description of Hillary Clinton being surrounded by a "microclimate of virtue." Can you describe what you mean by that and how it was represented in your section, "No Ceilings," that included Melinda Gates and a panel to show how much women in power "cared" for poor women? I love your sardonic description, "the presenters called out to one another in tones of gracious supportiveness and flattery so sweet it bordered on idolatry."
More, http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/36035-thomas-frank-bill-clinton-s-five-major-achievements-were-longstanding-gop-objectives
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511967219
DJ13
(23,671 posts)The GOP certainly dont want to get the blame when things go sour after their policies begin impacting the country.
appalachiablue
(41,188 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Funny how that works.
These people are NOT on our side.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)appalachiablue
(41,188 posts)montanacowboy
(6,111 posts)keep shooting your mouth off Queenie
NewImproved Deal
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appalachiablue
(41,188 posts)appalachiablue
(41,188 posts)- Clinton Campaigns in Kentucky Before Tuesday's Primary, ABC, May 15, 2015.
Hillary Clinton is making a big final push in Kentucky, where rival Bernie Sanders hopes to extend his winning streak and further delay her clinching the Democratic presidential nomination. Big-name surrogates have been sent, television ads are playing and Clinton is touring the state in advance of Tuesday's voting. On Sunday, the former secretary of state dropped in at Louisville churches and held rallies in Louisville and Fort Mitchell. Sanders on Sunday made a swing through Kentucky as well."We need a president who will work every single day to make life better for American families," Clinton said at a union training center in Louisville. "We want somebody who can protect us and work with the rest of the world. Not talk about building walls, but building bridges."
While Clinton leads Sanders by nearly 300 pledged delegates going into Tuesday's primaries in Kentucky and Oregon, the Vermont senator continues to win contests and has pledged to stay in the race until the July convention. With Donald Trump set as the presumptive Republican nominee, Clinton's team would like to turn their attention to the general election contest, but they still can't fully make that shift. A win in at least one of the two upcoming contests would give Clinton momentum heading into the primaries in California and New Jersey in early June.
Oregon is favorable terrain for Sanders, but Clinton's campaign thinks the race is competitive in Kentucky, where she planned to spend Sunday and Monday courting voters. It will be close, but either way, as with all the contests this month, we will gain additional delegates and move that much closer to clinching the nomination," Clinton spokesman Brian Fallon said in an email.
Clinton easily won the Kentucky primary over President Barack Obama in 2008. But this time she has come under criticism in parts of the state after saying in March that "we're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business." Clinton later said she misspoke, but the comment has drawn fire in mining communities.
On Sunday in Louisville and in Fort Mitchell, Clinton touted her plan for coal country. Her proposals include protecting miners' health care coverage and retirement programs, investing in infrastructure in mining communities and repurposing mines. Before a cheering crowd in a Fort Mitchell backyard, Clinton pledged to put husband Bill Clinton who won the state in 1992 and 1996 "in charge of revitalizing the economy." She provided no further details, but during Bill Clinton's administration, economic growth averaged 4 percent per year, median family income rose and the budget deficit was turned into a surplus.
Clinton said that when people feel left behind, they "become very interested in easy answers and the kind of demagoguery we've seen in this election." Clinton only briefly mentioned Sanders at both events, repeating a critique that he did not vote to fund the auto industry bailout. Sanders has accused Clinton of mischaracterizing his record on the issue. Clinton focused most of her fire on Trump, calling him a "loose cannon." She said his record will "be a big part of the general election, because Americans, regardless of our political affiliation have to really take this vote seriously."
High-profile advocates campaigning for Clinton in Kentucky include Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine, former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell and Reps. James Clyburn of South Carolina, G.K. Butterfield of North Carolina, Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas and Hakeem Jeffries and Joe Crowley of New York. Clinton is spending about $325,000 on Kentucky ads. Sanders, after seeing her reserve airtime, followed with $126,000 in ads, according to advertising tracker Kantar Media's CMAG.
More, http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/clinton-campaigns-kentucky-tuesdays-primary-39127058
dchill
(38,594 posts)25 more years!
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Is this just a way for him to get a 3rd term?
appalachiablue
(41,188 posts)appalachiablue
(41,188 posts)Docreed2003
(16,889 posts)She's suggested he'll be in charge of trade agreements, while using the same "I'm pulling him out of retirement" rhetoric, and now, she wants him in charge of economic revitalization. I would be lol, if the whole scenario weren't so damn depressing...
Ino
(3,366 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)I bet this was part of their deal back in 1992'ish..probably since 1988.
Bill first, and Hillary later... you better believe it.... That has been the game all along..
SamKnause
(13,114 posts)I am sick of the Clinton family.
The pain, destruction, and death these 2 families
have caused is incalculable.
I don't know why anyone would vote for a person from
either of these families.
Are we to believe that these 2 families are the only ones 'capable' of running this country ???
I think not !!!!
They should be at the bottom of the heap, not the top.
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)NewImproved Deal
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appalachiablue
(41,188 posts)GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)It was awful
B Calm
(28,762 posts)started effecting our jobs.
Worried senior
(1,328 posts)terrible trade deals he'd put in place.
LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)up off their asses and vote than the opportunity to vote against Hillary Clinton, it's the knowledge that they'd be voting against both Hillary and Bill Clinton. Does she not realize this? I can't believe she doesn't understand how much the two of them are flat out hated. It boggles the mind.
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BootinUp
(47,209 posts)TDale313
(7,820 posts)Clinton policies did a whole lot of long term harm.
BootinUp
(47,209 posts)The country was on solid footing when it was handed over to shrub. Are you a fan of the Chicago school of economics? Right wing economics? I don't think America buys it. Supply your source for attacking Bills record, preferably something not too kooky.
senz
(11,945 posts)he didn't give us GATT/WTO and NAFTA, and he didn't repeal Glass-Steagall, either.
The person who did those things brought irreparable harm to the American middle class.
Zorro
(15,753 posts)Lots of exceptional economic progress during Clinton's two terms in office.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,821 posts)Because three people being photographed together is fraught with meaning, and is a portent of a looming apocalypse.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)George "segregation forever" Wallace, George "new world order" Bush and Bill "I did not have sexual relations" Clinton. People take notice.
NanceGreggs
(27,821 posts)Name them.
No one is interested in this bullshit other than BS supporters, who somehow think that posting this photo over and over and over has an impact on anything in the real world.
Who is "taking notice" of this photo outside of DU? Whose vote is being impacted by it? Whose mind is being changed by it?
Answer: No one.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,821 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,821 posts)... I've "taken notice of" is the fact that photos like this keep being posted.
The message you seem to think this photo conveys is not being "noticed" by anyone outside of the DU bubble.
I doubt that more than 1% of voters have seen this photo - and I doubt that any of them would ascribe any "message" to it.
So when you say "people take notice", I have to ask "what people" do you think are taking notice?
appalachiablue
(41,188 posts)Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)Be careful what dog you lay down with - you might get fleas.
The Clintons are also friends with Trump...went to his wedding!!! I don't go to weddings of my enemies - do you?
NanceGreggs
(27,821 posts)Surely the average voter is seeing this photo, and is being negatively impacted by it!
We must stop the circulation of this pic immediately - before another one out of a million voters see it, and actually care about it!
NanceGreggs
(27,821 posts)Hydra
(14,459 posts)Look out- Bill will be coming around to ship the last of the jobs out!
appalachiablue
(41,188 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)appalachiablue
(41,188 posts)Kall
(615 posts)BootinUp
(47,209 posts)and Stock Prices are not something we try to control with the government. We do not use government to tell people how to invest their own money on the stock market. Regulation of the stock market is focused on preventing fraud. But bubbles in stock prices are not something that we regulate.
From approximately 1997-2000 we experienced what some have called the dot-com bubble. Where there was exuberance in certain stocks with NASDAQ Composite peaking in March 2000 and that led to a major correction From 2001-2002. I have never heard it suggested by rational respected economists, that I read, any suggestion that the government should have intervened somehow at a point before the correction to deflate the bubble. Nor have I seen a valid argument for pinning the fault on Clinton.
Clinton took over an economy that was running deficits, and still coming out of a recession in 1992. He left the Presidency with a budget surplus and a strong economy.
From the wiki link for U.S. Recessions: The 1990s were the longest period of growth in American history. The collapse of the speculative dot-com bubble, a fall in business outlays and investments, and the September 11th attacks,[47] brought the decade of growth to an end. Despite these major shocks, the recession was brief and shallow.[48]
When the economy took a bad turn later in 2001, the new Bush administration should have put in place budget policy and any other policy to correct, stimulate, etc. The Fed also has a role in setting interest rates for stabilizing the economy. But instead of taking appropriate action the Bush II adminstration continued with policies of unwise tax cuts, unfunded wars and allowed the deficit to spiral.
Wherever you are getting your criticisms of Democratic Presidents economic records, I would suggest they are slanted from reality for some reason. This is obviously a very politicized issue. I look for economists that use model based analysis like Paul Krugman and others that belong to the "salt water school" of economics.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Riding a dot com bubble isn't a resume enhancer.
Bill was in charge of ridding our economy of millions of good-paying factory jobs and she wants to put him in charge of the economy.
appalachiablue
(41,188 posts)Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)President Clinton has served all the times he can serve...he was horrible for women. I will vote for a candidate that does not need her husband to fix things.
I am a feminist and want my first woman president to be a strong, independant woman who can stand on her own.
appalachiablue
(41,188 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Mass incarceration cut off a source of income for some families. Then, to make it all worse... welfare reform. Those policies disproportionately hurt families who already had economic struggles.
I think the enabler of a sexual predator has no business being a role model for youth. Neither girls or boys benefit from seeing either Clinton as something to aspire to be.
It irked me that she didn't leave him the same way I was angry at my mom for setting the example my sister followed when she put up with years of cheating and abuse.
Aside from that, if an idea begs the question "don't ya think that's a little too close to subverting the constitution?" it's probably not a very good one for a candidate for POTUS to float.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)Clinton legacy intact..as in, make sure they can have history books reflect much differently than it appears they are going to. The cat is out of the bag...
appalachiablue
(41,188 posts)mooseprime
(474 posts)threw up a little in my mouth
AzDar
(14,023 posts)dchill
(38,594 posts)appalachiablue
(41,188 posts)Meant it..
dchill
(38,594 posts)As we've NEVER known it. If you can't pay, you can't play. These grifters have got to go.
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)Can we just call her Clinton, and drop the "Hillary" at this point?
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,209 posts)with Bonnie, you get Clyde; and with Hillary you get Bubba...
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... shouldn't be put in charge of anything. He should be placed in a Nursing Home where he belongs, if she can find one that will take him.
senz
(11,945 posts)The oligarchs are surely smiling at the prospect of another go-round. For the American people's sake, I hope it doesn't happen.
PATRICK
(12,228 posts)while under the Hill. Is there that much of a nostalgia vote to trick with this?
appalachiablue
(41,188 posts)unconnected to Bill's policies. Can't keep up, strategies and plans change according to location, target and polls.
Prism
(5,815 posts)This isn't very feminist.
"Uh, my husband will do it for me."
Lord. I've not the words to explain.
appalachiablue
(41,188 posts)just a panicked appeal now to try to keep up votes and image this last month. Bill can work on many other projects for crise sake IF it comes to that.
Prism
(5,815 posts)Whose, uh, husband will fix everything.
Ok, funny joke guys. So can I get quarters at the Chuck E Cheese now?
appalachiablue
(41,188 posts)coal country and urban unemployment. Don't count on it. She needs him now it seems because though 'she has the NUMBERS!!!!' if Hillary loses two more states KY and OR, just after IN and WV that's four in a row which hurts her momentum. What much of this is about I think, For Now. Stay tuned though..
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)President that's fine. But president Bill should not have a formal position like Treasury Secretary.
pmorlan1
(2,096 posts)Great. Let's put the fox in charge of the hen house. This campaign just gets creepier and creepier.
bjo59
(1,166 posts)for Bill" if she becomes President. Guess HRC think this is going to get her votes and it will probably be on all the
network news shows today. I personally don't think the prospect of Bill Clinton back in the White House working on trade deals is going to go over very well with voters. What a freaking surreal time we're living in.
eShirl
(18,506 posts)I just can't.
appalachiablue
(41,188 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)There is no chance for party unity. All that means is bow down and accept the Clintons, and then shut the fuck up.
Nope.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)it into law will be back in charge again, how damn comforting is that?
B Calm
(28,762 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)is what got many an underwear in bunches the last time it was suggested.
Methinks hill is as tone deaf as many of her supporters.
Check out the big dogs shirt, Lamar Alexander anyone LOL
asuhornets
(2,405 posts)CountAllVotes
(20,879 posts)WHO are you voting for? Bill or Hillary?
& recommend!
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Does this make sense? She can't manage Economic Revitalization on her own? What is she going to spend her time doing?
AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)and that's what Hillary is really best at, so it'll all work out
KoKo
(84,711 posts)while Bill does his Third Term?
I thought Hillary said ...way back when...when they ran for First Term that she wasn't going to be one of those women who "Stand By Their Man...and Bake Cookies?"
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Why is she running against this?
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)and increasing foreign worker visas Bill will be doing piddly stuff in Kentucky to distract the American People...
appalachiablue
(41,188 posts)Teamster Jeff
(1,598 posts)appalachiablue
(41,188 posts)AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)he'll single-handedly revive the cigar industry... again!
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)QUESTION: What could Hillary Clinton say to make me dislike Her even more?
Vinca
(50,323 posts)For the first time this election season, I heard someone on MSNBC discuss Bill Clinton and the Epstein character (plane known as the "Lolita Express" . This could get really bad really fast.
appalachiablue
(41,188 posts)claiming the NYT distorted her relations with Donald is all over the crap media. Months of this trash in store.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)He said so in a private speech I attended......
KoKo
(84,711 posts)heart attack at age 37....so Bill has aways to go with what "people with influence, money and access" can get in various heart treatments, replacements, etc. Maybe Bill is trying to signal he might not last long so we can vote for Hillary without worrying about him lingering to interfere with her policy, or getting involved in some of the other activities he has pursued in the past.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Seems to me that she's trying to put him in charge of everything. A third term.
AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)She couldn't have done more damage to womens' rights in a single statement than that.
The serious stuff - the stuff everyone really cares about - for that she needs to rely on her husband.
WOW.
This is the feminist, womens' candidate?
appalachiablue
(41,188 posts)and pretense. Farce, total as we see. No principles.