When will the tantrum end?

[StayFrosty]

I keep reading about how people won't settle for the lesser to two evils ever again

Well if that's your plan then you're in for a world of pain because you're never going to get your perfect candidate that aligns 100% with your views

And even if you did, not everyone will be supportive of him and he might lose.

The common sense decision would be to move on to the next candidate that best fits your views that's how we make progress.

[villager]

1. When will the tantrums end, indeed. nt

[Broward]

2. Come on, you can do better than that.

[bvf]

23. Good help is *so* hard to find nowadays. n/t

[Art_from_Ark]

30. LOL

Brock's million-dollar smear campaign must be running low on funds.

[Baobab]

39. They use a computer, its "generative art" of the prose variety.

its cheaper.

It adds up you know.

[leftynyc]

61. I'm sure you comfort yourself

thinking all Hillary supporters are getting paid but it's only in your fevered imagination that it's true. The desperate search for reasons your favored candidate is losing is getting pathetic to watch.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

3. Most who take that positioin will feel less pain than the Muslims or Latinos or gays or blacks

they obviously cant give a shit about by their actions.

Most, not all, who take this childish position, are middle class white folks who will suffer, believe me, but not as bad as the other.

[Bluenorthwest]

57. So which of those groups are you part of and which are you simply using as props for your

own agenda? I'm gay, I support Bernie Sanders and not Ronald Reagan's press agent Hillary Clinton. I know one person who supports Hillary. One.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

74. You see, I am a liberal, so I dont need to be part of any of the groups a Drumpf administration

will openly and aggressively try to destroy.

I vote for the protection and benefit of the whole, not for myself.

I find that when everybody else is benefited, so am I.

So, whether I am or am not a part of any of those minority groups, I will vote as if I am.

Props? What a ridiculous comment.

[leftynyc]

62. Add women to that group

they don't give a shit about. Donnie has promised to only put forced birth candidates up for the court. And that will be only the beginning.

[Fawke Em]

69. You know, I'm getting tired of people glossing over how Hillary treats Muslims.

Trump has said some mean, nasty things, but you know what he hasn't done that Hillary has? Bomb them.

In her speech to AIPAC, she didn't even acknowledge the Palestinians, most of whom are Muslim. She doesn't even seem to consider them as people.

In other words, if the choices are Trump or Clinton, Muslims really don't have a choice. They're hated by both.

[EndElectoral]

6. A Brock plant?

[Ned_Devine]

7. It sure looks that way

[QC]

10. They're not doing right by their employer, though.

I would be ashamed to turn in a time card after doing such shoddy, uninspired work.

[panader0]

55. Unbelievable hide.

I've seen that same info about different posters posted dozens of times.

[leftynyc]

63. The Bernie supporters are desperate

these days. Like putting their hands over their ears and shouting LALALALALALALA

[bunnies]

65. Seriously. We're hiding info anyone can see by clicking profile?

WTF? OPs been here 10 days and already lecturing / demeaning us. No reason at all that info should have been hidden.

[pinebox]

86. What a bullshit hide. I'd appeal that.

[berni_mccoy]

12. Most likely. Probably paid to post as well. Either that

Or a sock puppet for DanTex.

[frylock]

37. Love how copy n paste of a user profile is now a hideable offense.

[Sheepshank]

72. Always should have been...I don't know why some get away with that call out

the only reason to post a profile of a newbie is to call out the fact they are new..against TOS

[Andy823]

14. So using your logic

All the "new" posters who are pushing the Clinton hate and "claiming" they are supporting Bernie, are most likely Karl Rove plants, right?

[Ned_Devine]

16. Here's what we know...

...the CTR people put $1million into creating online profiles on political websites such as this one to combat negative posts against HRC and to post positive and glowing things about her. Many of these posters seem to fit that bill. As for the Karl Rove plants, I don't know about that. I do know that I've been here since 2004 and have a tendency to pay more attention to and converse with those who have higher post counts and have been here for the better part of the past 5-10 years.

[Baobab]

41. Thats such a low figure though, for that kind of thing.

I would believe $1M /day

Look at the stakes, just the 2008 bailout alone is $12T Bailouts are big bucks.

Healthcare is at least $500k/person in US over a lifetime difference.


Wars too, that's a lot of money.

[cali]

5. When will frosty grab a clue?

[TheCowsCameHome]

8. No more of that "lesser"shit for me.

Been there, done that, never again.

Bernie is the first one in decades that I can say I am voting "for"

[840high]

13. .that^

[Art_from_Ark]

35. Absolutely

My vote on Super Tuesday was FOR Bernie. He's absolutely one of the best presidential candidates in my lifetime, which goes back to the Eisenhower years.

[Todays_Illusion]

9. Am I having a tantrum? I haven't even had the opportunity to vote yet. I will vote for Sanders.

I will also continue to support the Bernie Sanders campaign until the convention.

You can surrender to Hillary, I will continue to support Bernie Sanders.

[Autumn]

11. This old Latina has spent over 40 years moving on to the next candidate that best fits my views.

It hasn't worked yet because we people seem to be losing ground on everything.

[BillZBubb]

28. "we people seem to be losing ground on everything"

Wise words!

[Baobab]

42. We have yet to see the worst. #HillarySoGenerous (with Americas' jobs)

I wonder what happened in Geneva today..

[kerry-is-my-prez]

38. Did you vote for McGovern or Mondale? Don't get people your age who don't think about history.

I'm about your age, like Bernie on a lot of issues but I remember McGovern, Mondale and Dukakis. I do not care to see another Republican President.

[BillZBubb]

44. Did you vote for Gore and Kerry? Don't get people who don't think about history.

Now your voting for another loser: Hillary. Some people never learn.

[Autumn]

48. You will see another republican president. the democratic leadership will see to it.

They allowed Bush, who later beat your guy kerry to be installed with nary a whimper. They went on to validate him and everything he did.

[azurnoir]

15. and gosh whoever would that next candidate be ?

[TheCowsCameHome]

17. When you stop posting?

[cherokeeprogressive]

18. When people like you get bored with shit-stirring and leave.

[pdsimdars]

19. JFK quote

Once you say you're going to settle for second, that's what happens to you in life.

--- John F. Kennedy



Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/johnfkenn166598.html

[tritsofme]

20. I say let them get all the tears out now.

After Bernie's enthusiastic endorsement, they will look even more ridiculous in their obstinance.

[nc4bo]

21. Yea but #Imwithhim. I prefer my candidate have a spine and stand up rather than a bowl of

unmolded barbed wire infused corporate jello.

We still have a choice.

My 1st choice chose not to run and O'Malley is no longer campaigning.

[Attorney in Texas]

22. Why does it even matter outside of Ohio, Florida, and a few other battleground states. I'll probably

vote for Hillary is she's the nominee (depending on her running-mate, platform, willingness to reform the party rules and the DNC's disastrous leadershit, etc.).

But if she is nominated and she were to pick a Lieberman running-mate, stack the platform committee for neoliberal stooges, double down and the broken party rules, etc., I might write in or vote Jill Stein.

Why should it matter? If I lived in a swing-state, I agree there is merit to maximize the likelihood of defeating Trump by voting for a neoliberal who offers a neocon foreign policy, but my presidential vote in Texas is NOT going to turn the state blue so why should I feel compelled to compromise my values by voting for a candidate I don't trust or share values with?

More likely than not, if Hillary is the nominee, I'll vote for her, but why all of the knicker twisting demands for nose-pinching votes in non-battleground states?

[highprincipleswork]

24. Insult us all you want. See where it gets ya? I could just as easily say "when will the anxious

calls for Bernie to drop out of the race stop?"

He told you his plans. They are the same as Hilary's were in 2008. We're behind him, all the way.

Frankly, I hope he takes it further, to the convention. And if he takes it beyond, I'll probably go there too.

But listen, the "tantrums" asking him to drop out are at least as silly. We don't intend to give up our principles. We actually value them quite highly, and they are no different than what Democrats have been fighting for for years.

The real mystery is why they get so little respect from you and your fellow H supporters. The other mystery is why Hillary doesn't just keep embracing them, and us, and ride this all the way to the White House.

[Vote2016]

25. I'm hoping the tantrum will end when she gets her way

[Baobab]

43. They wont. Nor will the fake drama.

Its going to be a very very long four years if she wins.

I hope people realize the implications of five and a half more years of FastTrack. That means this next President is likely to be forever.

No chance of voting away anything thats in a trade deal, its permanent.

Thats their whole point.

[dchill]

26. "...never going to get your perfect candidate that aligns 100% with your views"

Already did. Your OP is completely meritless, and everyone knows where tantrum central is on DU.

[deathrind]

27. "Game over man, game over"!

[zappaman]

29. Never ever ever EVER!!!!!

[BillZBubb]

31. 66 posts and you "keep reading"?

Yeah right. Try a new angle, that one's not gonna fly.

[jack_krass]

32. Tool

They're a great band, aren't they?

[MrWendel]

33. Trevor Noah: Are Sanders Voters Really Gonna Act Like ‘Children’ and Go With Trump?

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trevor-noah-are-sanders-voters-really-gonna-act-like-children-and-go-with-trump/

[Fawke Em]

68. Why is this so hard for the media to understand?

No one is "going with Trump." Bernie or Bust means his supporters either write him in (in states that allow it) or they'll vote Green.

In no way do Bernie supporters endorse Trump.

Maybe in your bilateral world, but there are more than two candidates on the ballot.

[MrWendel]

70. NO ONE...

is GOING with Trump? You sure about that? What makes you so confident to speak in absolutes?

[kayakjohnny]

34. You're awfully new to be put on ignore.

Lately, I've saved that feature for long time posters. But you seem quite worthy.

I don't want the perfect candidate. Only one that will move the country forward, not back to the 90's or worse.

Buh-bye, oh one of limited thinking skills.

[frylock]

36. All Hail to ol' Brock U!

[StayFrosty]

40. So let me get this straight

If you don't get the candidate that aligns 100% with your views

You all will make sure the candidate that's the polar opposite of what your views are wins?

And you will ensure that whatever progressive values you believe in get shot down in the Supreme Court for the next 30 years?

Lol

Shit no wonder Republicans have a stronghold in many states

[Baobab]

45. Hillary is "with them"

now. Or so she said.

[BillZBubb]

47. Republicans have a stronghold in so many states because the

Democrats there keep putting republican lite Democrats up against them. Now we are going to run a republican lite for president. That's always worked so well for us.

How about giving voters a real economic choice between us and the republicans? How about running someone who really will address income inequality, too big to fail corrupt banks, the Wall Street money crowd, climate change, and disastrous trade deals?

Nah, we wouldn't want to upset our corporate masters. Let's put up their darling Hillary!

[timmymoff]

59. Actually republicans have a stronghold

because third way democrats have caused apathy amongst former democrats. Given a choice to vote for a republican who tells you what they will do and a democrat who wants to act like a republican the voters choose the republican. With Hillarity we get a democrat who wants to act like a republican and proves it by courting GOP money. This is why she isn't viable to the democratic wing of the democratic party.

[dana_b]

60. There IS a candidate that aligns with 97% of my views

and I am voting for him and ONLY him. So I DO get my candidate of choice.

[Lizzie Poppet]

66. You'd think Brock would have a better HR staff.

I mean...surely they can weed out people who have no concept of "false dichotomy."

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

46. Pretty good advice. My ballot comes with more than "really evil" and "lesser evil".

A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance of being right. Thomas Paine Author of "Common Sense".

[Haveadream]

49. I suspect many of the people who will not vote Dem in the general election

can make that choice because it will either not impact them very much or their vote will have little influence on the outcome in their state. It is very hard to imagine someone in a swing state with something or someone at risk not running to the polls to vote to protect themselves and their loved ones. And, even if they are willing to sacrifice themselves for an ideal, few people are willing to sacrifice people they love and care about. I think as the election draws nearer, many who are convinced they will never vote Dem, especially those who take politics very seriously, will feel a real moral obligation to keep Trump and the republicans out of the White House and the Supreme Court.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

75. Most are selfish, clearly. Problem with that is it will harm them eventually. Drumpf WILL

NUKE the first foreign country leader who makes fun of him or criticizes him.

What we need to be discussing is does the prez, on her or his own, have the power to push that button whenever she or he wants?

Anybody know?

Please, people, admit this is a reality.,

[Haveadream]

89. Trump is an unmitigated disaster

Rather than making school affordable in any way, he has said he wants to eliminate the Department of Education. Rather than addressing the climate crisis, he has vowed to eliminate the Environmental Protection Agency. Rather than developing green energy resources and jobs, he has placed a priority on the cheapest fuel possible. That means an expansion of present carbon emissions and ground water contaminating processes. Rather than a path to citizenship, he repeatedly states he wants to deport 11 million people. Rather than single payer or affordable health care, he wants to completely privatize health insurance and make it competitive by "drawing borders around states". Rather than reopening clinics so the poor can find reproductive health care, he wants to find some kind of "punishment" for women who have abortions.

Seriously?

That doesn't even begin to address his unhinged and aggressive foreign policy rants and nuclear option promises. Anyone who is complicit in allowing this man into the oval office, knowing what they do about him, is responsible for their part in if he wins the Presidency. At this point, all of our efforts should be spent on preventing that.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

90. I just borrowed this for a friend, or former friend. I told him supporting Trump is a deal

killer for our friendship.

[SpareribSP]

50. I'm sure the "tantrum"

Will continue as long as progressives who feel disenfranchised are treated like children

[coco77]

51. Why don't you..

want all states to vote.

[SheilaT]

52. As one who has had it with voting for the lesser of two evils,

I apparently have to remind you that the lesser evil is still evil. That does NOT mean I'm holding out for my perfect candidate, just one who isn't evil.

I want to vote for a good candidate, that's all. And if my preferred candidate doesn't get the nomination, the one who apparently will get it is NOT the next candidate that best fits my views, but rather a candidate who emphatically doesn't fit my views at all. Alas, the candidate who truly best fits my views is not running. Maybe I could write her name in come November.

[WhiteTara]

76. Just curious

who was the last "lesser evil" you voted for? You don't have to answer of course, but I didn't hear that phrase until Ralph Nadir came on the scene, and I was wondering if that was Gore.

[hellofromreddit]

53. A candidate failing to win support is not a tantrum on the part of voters.

Talking down to those voters is a great way to fail at helping that candidate.

[alcibiades_mystery]

54. All thes people will vote for the D in Novemeber...their hissy fits are clown shit

[redStateBlueHeart]

56. Hopefully after the primary ends.

n/t

[Amaril]

58. The beatings will continue untl morale improves

'Course, in our case, we should probably substitute "condescending snark" for "beatings".

[Lizzie Poppet]

64. Tantrum? Oh, piss right the fuck off.

Didn't bother reading any further; a post that starts off with an insufferably condescending insult has virtually zero chance of being worth the time.

Now off to Ignore with your Brockian ass...

[Dem2]

67. Never.

The malcontents have been at it for 10+ years, nothing ever changes with those who choose to scream into people's faces for a living.

[GreatGazoo]

71. Indiana, Michigan, West Virginia...

[Orsino]

73. We cannot insist on a duty to vote reponsibly...

...without also acknowledging a duty to govern responsively. That earns votes.

Implict in our calls for voter engagement in the process is the power of a candidate to engage with the voters. The greater power, IMO, carries the greater responsibility.

[Faux pas]

77. Let's see,

one candidate is under FBI investigation, one candidate isn't. I'm voting for the one who isn't. Not a real hard choice for honest logical thinkers.

[LanternWaste]

79. I don't equate people holding firm to their own ethical convictions as a tantrum.

I don't equate people holding firm to their own ethical convictions as a tantrum. Indeed, I equate those who do as much with a dramatic lack of both education and rational thought.

[jamese777]

80. Tantrums? Remember The Stages of Loss & Grief

1. Denial and Isolation
2. *ANGER*
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance

New Rasmussen Poll
May 13, 2016
"The media may portray Bernie Sanders as a continuing political threat to Hillary Clinton, but voters aren’t buying: They remain overwhelmingly convinced that Clinton is the likely Democratic presidential nominee for 2016.

The latest Rasmussen Reports monthly Hillary Meter finds that 92% of Likely Democratic Voters believe Clinton is likely to win their party’s nomination, with 62% who say it’s Very Likely. That’s unchanged from a month ago and ties the highest number of Democrats who consider Clinton’s nomination Very Likely in monthly surveys since last July. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Among all likely voters, 84% think Clinton is likely to be the nominee, including 57% who say it’s Very Likely. The overall finding is unchanged from April, but the number of voters who say her nomination is Very Likely is a new high.

Just seven percent (7%) of Democrats and 15% of all voters think a Clinton nomination is Not Very or Not At All Likely.

Sixty percent (60%) of voters think Clinton is likely to win the presidency, compared to 53% who see Republican Donald Trump as the likely victor instead. These findings include 28% who say Clinton and Trump are Very Likely to win."
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/hillary_meter

[Contrary1]

82. 6. None of the above n/t

[jamese777]

83. I'm Glad To Hear It

Certainly not everyone is grieving or experiencing loss, but some folks are. And those who are irrationally hostile just might be at the anger stage.

[Contrary1]

88. No point in letting this whole thing affecting a person to that point...

I wish things were different, but it is what it is. Anger can eat you up.

[TheFarseer]

81. You mean when will people stop demanding

A non-corrupt government that looks out for non-billionaires citizens? Never, I hope.

[nolabels]

84. The best time to not make a decision is when you know it's not a good time to make decision

The common sense tells one that making a choice that was not your first choice is not a choice at all.

[lbrtbell]

85. So now, wanting a New Deal style Democrat is a tantrum

The only tantrums I see are those of the sore-winner HRC supporters.

Keep it up...you'll just push more and more independents into the Trump column.

[whatchamacallit]

87. Asked a frustrated Borg Drone