2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"Hold your nose for Hillary!" = Not Inspirational
Shock of ages, polls suggest "Donald Trump is a Scary Whacko" is simply not going to be enough to propel Hillary to the White House. It requires a level of cognitive dissonance most people can't perform:
1) They must forget Clinton Scandal Fatigue. Seriously, the woman can't even get emails without triggering congressional investigations, and some people think that's magically going to change?
2) They must forget how entertaining the first couple of seasons of The Apprentice actually were -- Bill might have won against Kwame, but Amy should have, and don't even get me started on Omarosa! There were fourteen seasons and a couple of spin-offs; Trump learned the media game well, and he's been playing it. Meanwhile, the number of people who can find Malaysia on a map in this country is vastly outnumbered by those who know who Omarosa is (don't pretend you don't), and Trump was heavily edited to seem smart, decisive and the Boss. Celebrities deferred to him, for heaven's sake, and we're a celebrity worshipping culture. AARRGHH!
3) Clinton trade policies have devastated American manufacturing, so "let's have Bill do some more!" is going to turn the Rust Belt Red. Statistically, in 1992 in Michigan 25% of workers belonged to Unions, but in 2012 that number is less than 17%. Check out a totally depressing map here -- http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/02/23/385843576/50-years-of-shrinking-union-membership-in-one-map Great job, Bill! NOT!
4) "She's a woman!" isn't good enough. Wisdom and compassion are requirements, too. "Send those immigrant kids back!" was about as "anti-mother" as a person could get.
5) Her failures outnumber her successes. Thirty years she's been fighting for equal pay for women?Percentage wise, still less than 80% so she kind of sucks at it. Reproductive rights? Still an issue, with less access than ever before. Peace in the Middle East? ROFL! Fortunately she didn't support marriage equality, because without her help, that is now the law of the land.
"Trump Sucks!" He really isn't qualified for government work because government isn't a business -- it is service to our fellow citizens. The people who volunteer to GOTV, get petitions signed, and phone bank generally don't do it because of fear -- they do it because they want to make a positive difference in the world and help their neighbors. Party leadership may appreciate the fundraising dollars the Clintons bring in that help cover their salaries, but please note the amount of free labor the Bernie people bring to the table.
"Hold Your Nose for Hillary (Because Trump Sucks)" is going to give Trump the White House.
Want a fear based campaign? That's the one non-Hillary supporters are already living with, because Hillary is a terrible candidate, and Democrats are not good at doing what we're told (herding cats is a great analogy).
But maybe all the smart people will vote for her anyway.
As a strategy, it makes me think we're doomed.
If she gets the nomination, time travelers may be our only hope....
In the meantime, I'm still feeling the Bern!
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)farleftlib
(2,125 posts)but I'm still working on my time machine so that I won't need it!
K & R because Hillary makes me this excited...
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)PADemD
(4,482 posts)Never watched The Apprentice.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)It was VERY entertaining. Omarosa worked in the Clinton White House and was just Not Nice (but kept around because hating her was GREAT for ratings). Later seasons were all about big fundraising for charities. We aren't big "reality show" people, but popular culture still has "You're Fired!" as a big phrase.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)No, wait!
I meant to say I LOVE warmongering, disingenuous corporatists!
Perhaps she needs to provide workshops on flagrant flip-flopping or, as I like to call it, "Doing a Leser."
Buns_of_Fire
(17,202 posts)short, sweet, and to the point... yeah, that'll work for a bumpersticker. I think I'll have a couple million of them printed up. Sell 'em at the convention. Make a bundle. Retire to the south of France.
But don't worry, I won't forget the little people who had the ideas that made it all possible. I'll give you, oh, say $0.001 for every bumpersticker sold. (We at Bumperstickers 'R' Us -- a wholly-owned subsidiary of Pitchforks 'R' Us -- believe in treating out creative contractors fairly, so long as it doesn't interfere with the stock value, and hence my golden parachute. It's the American Way! )
Now, if you'll just sign here, where I've put an "X"...
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,202 posts)Of course, if we get sued because someone thinks "honker" is sexist, we'll naturally have to deduct our legal fees from your commission. I'm sure you understand.
We've gone out on a limb this election, having barf bags fashionably imprinted with either "I Voted for Hillary" or "I Voted for Donald" on them, which will be sold at all finer precincts nationwide. ($5 if you buy one before you vote, $10 if you buy one on the way out, $15 if you look really desperate.)
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)I'm assuming you won't have any particular curiosity about the conditions for my workers or the environmental effects of my plant....
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)Dang, I'm sure I got all the downticket boxes right but somehow, with all the coffee I had, I realized that my pen tip somehow missed the Clinton box and instead landed in the box for Rocky De La Fuente.
Shit crap!
https://www.rocky2016.com/