Would you vote for a Clinton/Sanders ticket

[Doctor Jack]

I hear a lot of people here say they wont vote democratic if their candidate loses the primary. But what abut a unity ticket? Would you vote for a Clinton/Sanders ticket if clinton gets the most pledged delegates or Sanders/Clinton if Berne gets the most delegates?

[djean111]

1. I won't vote for Clinton.

Also - adding Bernie to the ticket would be both pandering for votes, and a way to get Bernie out of Congress, and relegated to dinners and funerals. Hillary is gonna go the Maggie Thatcher route, IMO.

Same goes for a Clinton/Warren ticket.

This trial balloon gets floated a bunch of times every day. Same result.

[Doctor Jack]

3. Who did you vote for in the 2008 primaries

Just out of curiosity, not trying to lead you into a trap or debate

[djean111]

16. Hillary. And then I did my due diligence, and then she did a lot of stuff I hated, as SOS.

The differences between Bernie and Hillary are massive, to me. I cannot imagine voting for war and fracking and the TPP and cluster bombs and means-testing Social Security and NO to single payer and YES to Wall Street and YES to the Third Way and bloody interfering regime changes. So there's that. Apple and oranges, not just two different kinds of apples.

[Doctor Jack]

22. I remember saying the same thing in 2008

I was an Obama supporter since 2007 and hated clinton. Really, I still do and in 2008 I would not have voted for her, expect when McCain picked palin. After that, I would have been a Hillarycrat through and through. I find trump to be 50x worse than palin. To me Hillary is terrible but I am pretty sure trump will nuke every city in this country because someone made fun of his comb over. To me it's like cutting off your hand to....prevent being nuked

[djean111]

24. Sorry, but I think you are cheapening the discussion with the

trump will nuke every city in this country because someone made fun of his comb over.

stuff.

And I think Hillary would be a lot more likely to use nukes than Trump. Plus she already has friends and allies who seem to adore war, presumably because there is so much money to be made. I think Trump would be more hampered by checks and balances than Hillary would. Not recommending Trump at all, just saying that no, he is not going to nuke every city in this country for any reason.

In any event, Hillary has not locked up the nomination. If/when she does, I expect to leave the Democratic Party and, sadly, DU.
when someone blithely says that she will bring back the NAFTA enabler to, really, get rid of even more jobs - then I just need to protect myself and my family. Not ranting, just calmly considering all the ramifications.

[Actor]

33. Trump will destroy lives, maybe only 20 million, as in Latinos and Muslims, but more like

2 billion with a nuclear war because his hands were made fun of.

But, you vote your conscience.

[djean111]

34. Your hyperbole is not working well for you.

'bye!

[Demsrule86]

71. Trump will pack the courts

so it is impossible to know how many lives he will destroy...certainly the progressive movement will not survive.

[senz]

87. Going on Clinton's SOS performance, she would do the same.

Libya, Syria, Honduras.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511413353

[lagomorph777]

32. Apples and spaceships

I can't even conceive of Bernie tossing his agenda in the trash to become subservient to Wall Street as Hillary's VP.

[Txbluedog]

48. Then why hasn't he ruled it out the multiple times he was asked about it

He has through his words left the door wide open. In fact, many rumors presist that during his radio silence for a few days after the NY primary, his campaign tried to approach the Clinton campaign about a VP nod for him and she said no

[lagomorph777]

64. I guess stranger things have happened, but it would reduce his effectiveness

and that would be sad.

Not as sad as a Trump victory though! At this point, it looks like Hillary would need all the help she can get to squeak out a victory; maybe Sanders as VP could help.

[Karma13612]

95. Obama. Never Clinton. Eom

[Joob]

2. Disqualify,Defeat,Unify* later. I remember.

Bernie shut that down real quick then everyone was all like" Why would Bernie say that hillary's not qualified omg!"

Gee, I think cus it was a pre-emptive strike at Hillary's new campaign strategy to "disqualify" him.

[Maedhros]

4. What - another one? This topic has been raised over and over and over...

Each time the response is the same: No.



Sanders and Clinton are farther apart ideologically that Clinton and Trump. Sanders shouldn't sell out his ideals to attach himself to Clinton's conservative Administration.

[LoverOfLiberty]

35. This is so patently false its ridiculous

Voted the same 93% of the time.

You have to have your villain, don't you?

[Maedhros]

41. I can use my critical thinking skills to determine how far apart Bernie and Hillary are.

You, apparently, can't or choose not to.

No need to read anymore of your posts.

/bye.

[timmymoff]

72. That other 7% was telling though

she really screwed shit up with that 7%. Tell mr brock I said hi

[Art_from_Ark]

84. Considering they only spent two years together in the Senate,

that's not really saying much.

And as someone else has already said, it's that 7% that matters.

[apcalc]

5. I will vote for ANY democratic ticket.

[ThePhilosopher04]

6. I will not vote for Hillary Clinton. Period.

[sharp_stick]

7. I will vote for the nominee

and continue to deride those who will not.

[Lizzie Poppet]

8. Not even with a gun to my head.

While I do indeed strongly support Bernie, my objection(s) to Hillary don't lie in her being "not Bernie." I consider her completely unacceptable, absent any consideration of Bernie in that evaluation.

[Doctor Jack]

13. So what should the party do?

What if we get to the convention and Hillary has the most delegates and vote but the superdelegates give it to sanders? Dosent sanders lose the general from angry clinton supporters? Are we just lose-lose at this point?

[Lizzie Poppet]

21. Not for me to say, really.

I'm technically a party member...but that's because I flipped my registration to vote for Bernie in my state's closed primary. I've voted, but we don't announce the results until next week (Oregon is 100% vote-by-mail with automatic registration). Once that happens, I'll almost certainly flip back to Independent. I'm far too much of a political leftist for the current party leadership, which I consider center-right.

If Hillary has the lead (and it's a reasonably significant one), and remains unindicted at convention time, then I think the party is stuck with nominating her (even though Bernie is almost certainly the stronger candidate against the vulgar talking yam). Overturning the precedent of SDs falling in with the pledged delegate winner without a better reason is risky. If it's a narrow pledged delegate victory, then I can see the SDs going with the stronger candidate (and certainly if Hillary is under indictment and stays in the race anyway).

[floriduck]

28. That would likely trigger a new party to end the two party monopoly in US politics.

[Schema Thing]

9. Sure. But it is vanishingly unlikely to happen. From either side's perspective. If it did...

...for whatever reason... I'd be disappointed at Bernie being marginalized to that extent.

[KingFlorez]

10. No

I would not vote for any ticket with Sanders on it. Ever.

[LoverOfLiberty]

37. Why?

Is it because of how you feel about Sanders' supporters due to your experience here on DU?

[pmorlan1]

89. I think he thinks he's anti-American

At least he thinks what he said in Puerto Rico was.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2009515

[LexVegas]

11. Sanders does not appeal to minority voters. Choosing him would be a mistake. nt

[floriduck]

31. You need to be more specific. Bernie does well with Hispanics. Do they count as "minority voters"?

[Bluenorthwest]

67. They also disregard Native American voters, Asian voters when using that verbiage.

nt

[nemo137]

12. In a hot minute, although I think Sanders is more useful to everyone in the Senate.

[CorkySt.Clair]

14. I'd hold my nose and vote for a ticket with Sanders on it.

While throwing up a little in my mouth.

Good news: He's unlikely to be on the ticket.

[SheilaT]

15. No. Why do people keep on asking it here.

Does everyone have real memory problems? Or only read very few posts and so haven't any notion of what actually gets posted/discussed/debated/fought over?

1. It's almost impossible to envision a scenario in which Clinton would ask Sanders to be her VP. Maybe if every other potential VP choice were abducted by aliens and so literally not available, but probably not even then.

2. It's almost impossible to envision a scenario in which Sanders would be willing to accept such an offer. And if he did, I'd lose all respect for him.

3. I don't plan to vote for Clinton at all, and I'm not alone. She is still a flawed hypocrite who aligns totally with the 1%, despite some clever lip-service otherwise.

[Tarc]

17. Sure, but it's not going to happen

A white, aged, northeastern male does not balance the ticket in the slightest. We need one or more of those categories to be something else.

[Doctor Jack]

23. I disagree

I don't think balancing demographics make much fofference, with the exception of Obama picking Biden (too many people back then needed a white guy on that tickwt to vote for the black guy). I think with Sanders you bring in a large appeal to young people and independent voters. That would contrast strongly with Clintons establishment, wonky, cold and calculating traits. Sanders has about the same amount of time in politics as clinton but he still feels like an outsider without many of the bad habits that polticans develop

Sure they are two old white people but their appeal and core supporters are very different

[thesquanderer]

18. Sanders supporters should embrace a Sanders VP spot.

If Hillary has to step down, he becomes President. Assuming he does not get the nomination, it's the only shot he's got.

And he should get some concessions from her in exchange for being on the ticket, so it's actually a policy victory as well.

Better to get something than nothing.

[Doctor Jack]

19. VP is a much more powerful position than it used to be

I fear he would just rot away in the senate. But a VP can make national headlines anytime they want

[djean111]

25. Sanders does a LOT in the Senate. You should look it up!

And, no, the VP spot is in no way "more powerful" than it used to be. Dinners and funerals and tie-breaking. Feh. Hillary would just relegate Bernie to an office as far away as possible from her, and ignore him. He would be vastly more productive in the Senate. hey, he probably votes with the Democrats more often than a lot of DINOs do!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

20. Take the Clinton part out and I would.

[chwaliszewski]

55. +27

[Ferd Berfel]

26. If a tragedy occurs and Clinton is the Nom

Putting a gag on Bernie by burying him in the VP would make me vote against that ticket. Under this impossible scenario we would need Bernie in teh Senate even more than we do now. Someone would have teo lead the charge to stop her highness from starting more wars, Killing the Safety nets, etc. People like Pelosi and Reid sure as hell won't do it.

This must be the 100th post with this dumb ass suggestion. Cut it Out.

[oldandhappy]

27. Not going to happen. Neither one of them want that.

I like the Castro idea.

[lagomorph777]

36. Fidel is too old and Raoul already has a job.

[hueymahl]

29. Sure. I also would vote for a Jesus/Santa Claus ticket

Pretty sure I'm not going to see either.

[peace13]

30. No Clinton.

[lagomorph777]

38. Would you vote for a Sanders/Clinton ticket?

[Fozzledick]

39. Get out of here - that would make way too much sense.

[asuhornets]

40. When Hillary wins, I do not believe she will pick Sanders.

But if she did I guess I will have no choice.

[seabeyond]

42. I am going to vote for the Democrat. I do not want Sanders. His intent is chaos and destruction.

He is full of himself, doesn't work well with others, and would not be respectful of the President of the United States.

He is too old, Clinton needs someone to offset her age, and he is from the same area of the country and a boring old white man. I can go another woman or Castro. A first Latino.

He has no interest but a narrow agenda and that does not work well either for President or Vice President.

So though I would vote for that ticket, I am betting it isn't going to happen.

[FailureToCommunicate]

44. Bernie's intent is "chaos and distruction"??? Wow, no wonder you have so many

hides.

[Demsrule86]

69. I think many hides

are unfair...I look at the posts and see that basically Bernie folks voted unfairly. There is nothing wrong with most of those posts. Also, Bernie has caused chaos and destruction...is that his purpose? Time will tell.

[Katashi_itto]

54. Bwhwhahahaha!!!!

[Bluenorthwest]

68. Chaos and destruction: Posts hidden by Jury: 11

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=139846&sub=trans

[seabeyond]

73. Yes, because "ya right" Is so outrageous. That is what happens when vocal, known and 85% of the

board is the other side. As Skinner himself recognized. It is a matter leveling the playing field, which ironically, in my view, Sanders totally lacks in understanding, hence one of the reasons he does not have the Democratic base.

[FailureToCommunicate]

93. Your complaint about the jury system aside, what "chaos and distruction" is Bernie causing?

Actually, it's not a real question. You're just posting to be contrary I suppose, and I fell for it. My bad.

[Howler]

43. No.

N/t

[kerry-is-my-prez]

45. Hell yes. Was always my dream. Even though I have lost a lot of my admiration for Bernie, I

would be accepting of that.

[Baobab]

46. I dont think that would fix the corruption

Their goal is to protect corruption.

They wont do anything that will change their agenda- which they have already decided on I am sure. Its all been decided by FTAs.

[DawgHouse]

47. I will vote blue no matter who.

[eastwestdem]

49. Yes. nt

[Recursion]

50. I'd vote for a ham sandwich that had a D after its name (nt)

[Katashi_itto]

51. No.

[AtomicKitten]

52. No.

[Tavarious Jackson]

56. I can not stand Bernie anymore but YES I would

Did you see Trumps SCOTUS picks? I would vote Bernie or Hillary in a heartbeat

[auntpurl]

57. I will vote for the Democratic ticket

No matter if that ticket is Clinton/Sanders or Ham Sandwich/Ficus Plant. I really don't care.

[MFM008]

58. I like the Idea

Its a team, if your personal feelings for one or the other get ahead of the desire to keep Trump out of the white house there is a problem.
That should be the most important thing.
If she picks up Sanders because anyone that can add knows he cant get the delegates,
this would avoid a battle and give them both a chance to go after the republicans.
Bernie gets a front seat to the revolution, most of his followers can accept the compromise.
Its something I as an HRC supporter can get behind.
Im tired of fighting with other democrats
I say do it and lets start the bus tour.

[Lucinda]

59. Yes, but thankfully he will not be the Veep. n/t

[VOX]

60. Yes. n/t

[Joe the Revelator]

61. Not voting for Clinton at the top of any ticket.

Ever.

[Demsrule86]

70. Thanks for sharing

GE is coming and then...we won't hear that sort of thing anymore...which I believe will be a good thing.

[Joe the Revelator]

74. I'm sure you'll enjoy your echo chamber. The idea obviously excites you.

Have fun with that.

But not yet!

[Demsrule86]

62. Sanders will not be the VP

He has shown he can't be trusted.

[bigwillq]

63. No.

No more Clintons, please.

[Howler]

65. No

Absolutely noti.

[Nay]

66. Half a loaf would be better than none. nt

[JoePhilly]

75. Sure.

[Dem2]

76. Sure, why not?

Why not?

[NanceGreggs]

77. Not going to happen ...

... so need to answer the question.

[LyndaG]

78. Of course, I would

But, because of her age, I think she will choose somebody younger. Same if Senator Sanders were the nominee.

[grasswire]

79. it will never happen.

1. Neither of them will go for it.

2. The men in the black suits with badges are catching up with her.

[LonePirate]

80. Seems like some people hate Hillary more than they love Bernie.

[senz]

81. No.

[The Second Stone]

82. I would have no choice, but Sanders would be worse than Joe Lieberman

as a choice of running mate. All of Lieberman's ego and entitlement, none of his experience.

There are plenty of candidates who could pass the vetting process, which includes seeing hidden tax returns.

[tularetom]

83. If Sanders somehow gets nominated he should never select Clinton as a running mate

Or if he is foolish enough to do so he should stay off of small planes.

If he agreed to be Clinton's running mate, I would hope that enough senators will vote to remove her from office after she is impeached.

[davidlynch]

85. Maybe Clinton Needs a Come-to-Jesus Moment first n/t

[demwing]

86. Yes, but only if the Voldemort/Potter ticket drops out

[basselope]

88. Sanders/Clinton yes, Clinton/Sanders no.

[Maedhros]

90. No.

[Trajan]

91. You heard people say they won't vote for Clinton

Not that they WON'T vote Democratic ....

These mischaracterizations are intentional, and reveal the intent of the OP - to cast Bernie voters as 'Rogues against the Democratic party', who apparently won't vote for ANY Democrats if Bernie loses, according to the OP ...

Regarding the second question - NO! ... Bernie would never accept that ceremonial role ... What's she gonna have him do? ... Weed the flower beds?

Regarding the first statement - the intentional misdirection will lead to your disappearance from my DU ... Pffft - gone

[pansypoo53219]

92. only way SHE can win.

[Karma13612]

94. No. Eom

[restorefreedom]

96. NFW. hillary left unity in the rear view a long time ago. nt