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Bernie's campaign is over. It has been since Super Tuesday. (Original Post) boston bean May 2016 OP
There's some lint on your shoulder. n/t Wilms May 2016 #1
it is dandruff virtualobserver May 2016 #26
Birdie poop. frylock May 2016 #74
I laugh every time a Hillary supporter writes an OP ... hellofromreddit May 2016 #2
The truth has always been my friend. boston bean May 2016 #3
That's not what I heard. You should hear what the truth says behind your back. Matt_in_STL May 2016 #5
LOL. Glad you've heard so much about me, WTF? Get a life would be my best advice. boston bean May 2016 #6
"Get a life" says the person who has 26,000 posts on DU... Human101948 May 2016 #52
Yes.... MrMickeysMom May 2016 #55
I laugh every time a Bernie supporter writes an OP ... NurseJackie May 2016 #25
Pssst...Here's a Valentine Armstead May 2016 #29
And your tactic is to support neoliberalism? seekthetruth May 2016 #56
As is your reply. NurseJackie May 2016 #57
You know that fracking poisoned families and children seekthetruth May 2016 #63
Can't please everyone. Nobody's perfect (not even Bernie). And ... NurseJackie May 2016 #64
Wow...... seekthetruth May 2016 #65
They don't even try to hide their Republican views anymore AgingAmerican May 2016 #68
Answer? seekthetruth May 2016 #67
Ha..... seekthetruth May 2016 #70
Ha! :-D Your biggest mistake is flattering yourself by ... NurseJackie May 2016 #71
So.....are you against fracking? Or do you see a need for it? seekthetruth May 2016 #72
And your biggest mistake is.... seekthetruth May 2016 #75
And I figured.... seekthetruth May 2016 #82
Still no response.....? seekthetruth May 2016 #87
You assume that I care one way or the other. NurseJackie May 2016 #89
Actually seekthetruth May 2016 #92
I can't relate to what it must be like for "single-issue" voters. NurseJackie May 2016 #93
Single issue? seekthetruth May 2016 #94
You may assume anything about me until your heart is content ... NurseJackie May 2016 #95
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #96
Dish it out all day long and can't take it just once, eh? hellofromreddit May 2016 #60
Ha!! :-D (You guys crack me up!) NurseJackie May 2016 #61
You spent a lot of time dismissing something you believe is irrelevant. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #31
Didn't really take that long. hellofromreddit May 2016 #62
I wish they'd post some reasons WHY to vote for her. Octafish May 2016 #91
Ugh. Shadowflash May 2016 #4
Reality has a way of popping up over and over, especially in the face of boston bean May 2016 #7
Sanders is not playing by established rules. He is not a Democrat and has no allegiance to the Trust Buster May 2016 #8
Haha! Really? Shadowflash May 2016 #10
Yes, many Sanders supporters plan to vote for Trump. This is about revenge to them, not policy. Trust Buster May 2016 #11
I guess THIS Sanders supporter Shadowflash May 2016 #13
You really need to quit talking for groups you don't understand. Dawgs May 2016 #17
I have a right to my opinion. I think Sanders and Trump supporters are very similar. Trust Buster May 2016 #19
Didn't say you didn't have a right to your opinion. Dawgs May 2016 #21
I think that way about your posts. Oh well. Trust Buster May 2016 #23
That makes sense, since I'm the actual Bernie supporter in this discussion. n/t Dawgs May 2016 #24
You also have a right to all the rotten tomatoes tossed at you for voicing it. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #36
I haven't complained. I understand the truth hurts. An attack on Hillary only helps Trump at this Trust Buster May 2016 #39
If she wasn't such a weak candidate it wouldn't matter in the slightest. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #40
That's not fair. Sanders pandered by offering $18 trillion in free stuff. That's the appeal there. Trust Buster May 2016 #43
She's a big girl. My lack of support for her is in no way tantamount to support for Trump. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #49
I think HRC and Republicans are very similar-after all they're both owned by the same people. hobbit709 May 2016 #47
I think Clinton and Bush supporters are very similar. frylock May 2016 #76
Don't take the brown acid! Redwoods Red May 2016 #86
that's not going to happen - a year from now we will be reading posts DrDan May 2016 #9
................................. Armstead May 2016 #12
I'm not hippie punching. I'm stating the reality. boston bean May 2016 #14
Progressive Punching Armstead May 2016 #16
A moral victory where he and Clinton share many of the same views and goals. boston bean May 2016 #32
They do but they don't. There is a fundamental difference in vision Armstead May 2016 #37
No! Hillary is a Reaganite. Bernie is a new dealer. immoderate May 2016 #79
More winner's butt hurt, lol. morningfog May 2016 #15
Its like a zombie campaign now. nt LexVegas May 2016 #18
Look! The new Brock meme today. Fawke Em May 2016 #46
So Hillary is losing state after state to someone who's campaign is "over"? GreatGazoo May 2016 #20
Hillary could metroins May 2016 #53
Or, she could say "Oh, SHIT!" and make ad buys in KY. frylock May 2016 #77
Disagree. Bleacher Creature May 2016 #22
Hillary steals everything from somebody else, then spews it back as her own. pangaia May 2016 #27
It's Hillaryous that she would repurpose that move of Obama brushing her shit off.. frylock May 2016 #78
I know. It has been there forever...so many people. pangaia May 2016 #81
Last time I checked Hillary is short of the required amount of delegates and Bernie is still in B Calm May 2016 #28
You are correct Gothmog May 2016 #30
Which Super Tuesday are we talking about? The 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th one? cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #33
Take your pick... you know all the ones he lost. LOL boston bean May 2016 #35
Zombie campaign seems to keep rolling along like a runaway freight train! bullwinkle428 May 2016 #34
You apparently are delusional. morningfog May 2016 #38
Yeah, screw the voters in CA, OR, NJ, and DC. They should just stay home lagomorph777 May 2016 #41
I don't know.. you tell me. boston bean May 2016 #42
Realistically, how do you expect to get their votes if you shut them out of the process? lagomorph777 May 2016 #44
No one is shut out of this process. Hillary has won the nomination. boston bean May 2016 #45
That's exactly the attitude I'm referring to. lagomorph777 May 2016 #48
It's my belief that thoughtful and mature voters are not likely to try and correlate the ... NurseJackie May 2016 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #50
Back in 2008 Hillary's campaign was also effectively over, and she stayed in until SheilaT May 2016 #51
Bernie will endorse Hillary before the convention redstateblues May 2016 #54
Desperation. libtodeath May 2016 #58
Who are you trying to convince? -none May 2016 #59
Yet your hair is on fire AgingAmerican May 2016 #66
Get some new material. frylock May 2016 #73
Sorry, Boston, it's just beginning.nt Eleanors38 May 2016 #80
The campaign against the corrupt two-party establishment isn't over. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #83
Eliminating the Electoral College would open the door for 3rd parties, wouldn't it? NurseJackie May 2016 #84
I would love to see it. But, the game is fixed. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #85
Suck it up, every fricking one of you - we're staying in! nt nc4bo May 2016 #88
I'm not sure what the problem is with letting everyone vote. Bob41213 May 2016 #90
Do you need a nap perhaps? PufPuf23 May 2016 #97
 

hellofromreddit

(1,182 posts)
2. I laugh every time a Hillary supporter writes an OP ...
Wed May 11, 2016, 07:44 AM
May 2016

.. describing what Bernie supporters "think", or "feel", or "are like."

OPs packed with petty insults, weak straw men, mock indignation and self-righteous pontification.

As if such things somehow help their cause in any way.

The reality is that it's this kind of nonsense that caused Bernie supporters to stop taking anything many Hillary supporters seriously.

It's not worth the effort.

Any real argument you might have had is obscured and lost inside the rest of that nonsense.

So stick with that tactic, it's working very well for Hillary.

 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
5. That's not what I heard. You should hear what the truth says behind your back.
Wed May 11, 2016, 07:47 AM
May 2016

The truth really seems to have some issues with you. You guys should probably talk and come to an understanding.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
25. I laugh every time a Bernie supporter writes an OP ...
Wed May 11, 2016, 08:34 AM
May 2016

... proclaiming Bernie ahead.
... predicting Bernie's win.
... predicting Hillary's loss.
... predicting an indictment.
... ignoring the math.
... promising to not vote for Hillary.
... threatening to write-in Bernie.
... threatening to vote for Trump.
... pretending that Bernie can flip Superdelegates.
... ignoring the math.
... griping about closed primaries.
... making veiled sexist comments.
... ignoring the math.
... posting photos with DT or HK
... complaining about media silence.
... boasting about rally attendance.
... accusing Hillary of "money laundering" crimes.
... making references to Monica.
... quoting HA Goodman.
... encouraging Bernie to run third-party.
... ignoring the math.
... inventing wild conspiracy theories.
... complaining about voting machines.
... attacking entire US regions.
... pretending the minority votes don't matter.
... ignoring Bernie's demographic.
... bragging about acres won.
... pretending it's a "horse-race".
... demanding transcripts.
... making excuses for Bernie.
... pretending the data theft never happened.
... posting fake rally photos.
... claiming a Pontiff endorsement.
... deifying Ralph Nader.
... quoting Susan Sarandon.
... and ignoring the math.

The reality is that it's this kind of nonsense that caused Hillary supporters to stop taking anything many Bernie supporters seriously. So stick with that tactic, it's working very well for Bernie.



 

seekthetruth

(504 posts)
63. You know that fracking poisoned families and children
Wed May 11, 2016, 12:34 PM
May 2016

.......in PA, and you actually support a candidate who isn't willing to ban it?

Here's waiting for a reply, but I highly doubt that any will come.......

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
64. Can't please everyone. Nobody's perfect (not even Bernie). And ...
Wed May 11, 2016, 12:38 PM
May 2016

... my priorities aren't in the same order as yours.

Cope.

 

seekthetruth

(504 posts)
67. Answer?
Wed May 11, 2016, 12:41 PM
May 2016

Please, defend fracking.....

And if environmental responsibility isn't your priority,then don't call yourself a liberal. You're a conservative.

 

seekthetruth

(504 posts)
70. Ha.....
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:23 PM
May 2016

So I'm assuming by your silence that you support fracking, and take the conservative stance on it. Are you going to start denying global warming next???????

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
71. Ha! :-D Your biggest mistake is flattering yourself by ...
Wed May 11, 2016, 02:08 PM
May 2016

... assuming that I actually care what you imagine my views to be.




 

seekthetruth

(504 posts)
75. And your biggest mistake is....
Wed May 11, 2016, 02:49 PM
May 2016

...... taking it lightly that you're supporting a candidate who's willing to put our environment at risk....

Shame on you!

 

seekthetruth

(504 posts)
82. And I figured....
Wed May 11, 2016, 03:21 PM
May 2016

No answer. Why can't you Hillary supporters just come out and admit that you're not progressive........

 

seekthetruth

(504 posts)
87. Still no response.....?
Wed May 11, 2016, 05:35 PM
May 2016

Man.....you care more about winning an argument over combating climate change????????

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
89. You assume that I care one way or the other.
Wed May 11, 2016, 05:58 PM
May 2016

So I wonder ... what part of my not caring are you failing to comprehend?



PS: I love how much it bugs you that I don't respond as quickly as you'd like. That's another way we differ. I'll respond to you when I get around to it, and if I feel like it, and if I've got nothing better to do.

But looking at your multiple replies trying to prod me into responding to you, and stalking me off-topic in other threads, it's obvious to me that you're chomping at the bit, breathlessly awaiting my next reply to you. (Refresh! Refresh! Refresh! Where's she go? Must find NurseJackie! Reply dammit! Reply!!!)

I suppose I should be flattered that you want to engage with me. But I'm not.

 

seekthetruth

(504 posts)
92. Actually
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:20 PM
May 2016

It's not you personally that bugs me. It's the fact that you're willing to ignore the horrible things we're doing to our planet just to elect someone.

She's in support of fracking, yes? That's what bugs me...well.....more like horrifies me.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
93. I can't relate to what it must be like for "single-issue" voters.
Wed May 11, 2016, 07:17 PM
May 2016

Such purity, and clarity of thought and purpose must be a heavy burden to bear.

Aside from that, I really don't care for, or about, voters who obsess about a single issue to the exclusion of all others. And with regard to that type of voter, I'm even less inclined to justify myself to them than I am to even bother engaging with them.

I'm able to prioritize the issues that are most important to me. I'm able to contrast and compare between the candidates across an entire range of issues.

There's no discussion to be had here. You've made up your mind, and you have only one thing to talk about. Please go elsewhere for your argument, you won't find it from me.

Goodbye.

 

seekthetruth

(504 posts)
94. Single issue?
Wed May 11, 2016, 08:00 PM
May 2016

That's just one example......of the myriad of problems with your candidate. She is simply not a liberal, progressive, or leftist.

She's a conservative, and so are her supporters if they examine her attitudes on the most important problems facing our country, and still support her. If you support her because she's female, then that's fine. In of itself, there's no problem with that. But, she simply does not have a progressive platform. So, in your support of her, please don't claim the banner of progressivism. Yes, it boils down to an identity of what you stand for.....a purist as you'll say.

Now if you're supporting her simply because she is a female, then that's totally fine, with the understanding that you are not representing progressivism.

I'm not a"one issue voter" as you claim. I'm simply asking why you support Clinton on the basis of her support for fracking, since it's undoubtedly a very dangerous and harmful practice that needs to be stopped.

This kind of division will get us a Trump presidency.

As you state that you're able to prioritize those issues that are the most important to you, how can you claim to be progressive when standing up for the environment should be at the top of your list? Is it not? What other causes trump (no pun intended) the very survival of our species?

If you choose not to respond, then I, again, assume that you're a conservative. Strange place for one to be here at DU.....a liberal site, yes?

Response to NurseJackie (Reply #95)

 

hellofromreddit

(1,182 posts)
60. Dish it out all day long and can't take it just once, eh?
Wed May 11, 2016, 11:27 AM
May 2016

Last period of my last sentence. Follow the link, tell me again about my tone.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
91. I wish they'd post some reasons WHY to vote for her.
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:04 PM
May 2016

Until then, I can see why so many continue to support Bernie.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
8. Sanders is not playing by established rules. He is not a Democrat and has no allegiance to the
Wed May 11, 2016, 07:55 AM
May 2016

Party. He's a Trojan horse who is working to submarine Hillary's campaign in order to hand the election to Trump.

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
10. Haha! Really?
Wed May 11, 2016, 07:58 AM
May 2016

''He's a Trojan horse who is working to submarine Hillary's campaign in order to hand the election to Trump.''



Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
13. I guess THIS Sanders supporter
Wed May 11, 2016, 08:13 AM
May 2016

didn't get the memo.

I'd never vote for Trump. He'd be even worse than Clinton.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
43. That's not fair. Sanders pandered by offering $18 trillion in free stuff. That's the appeal there.
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:20 AM
May 2016

Attacking her now is sour grapes and only helps Trump.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
49. She's a big girl. My lack of support for her is in no way tantamount to support for Trump.
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:36 AM
May 2016

Not fair. Aww. Is she going to tell me to "Cut it out!"?

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
9. that's not going to happen - a year from now we will be reading posts
Wed May 11, 2016, 07:58 AM
May 2016

claiming a "road to victory" is still there

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
16. Progressive Punching
Wed May 11, 2016, 08:23 AM
May 2016

Happens every-time someone -- or some movement of Democrats -- comes along and challenges the Great Centrist Poo Bahs from a slightly more liberal standpoint. They are branded with dismissive terms like "fringe left" or flaky radicals or their positiions are called uncompromising or purist or "wanting ponies" or "unrealistic" etc.

Or, in a Rovian "reverse reality" twist, progressives are branded as right-wing. If we disagree with Obama on a policy like healthcare we are "smearing the first AA President" .....or now "the first woman president"....or as the case with Sanders, who has always been more socially progressive than the average democrat, "has a problem with POC" and on and on and on.

It's always something. This time the same old stuff -- except Sanders has gotten a significant share of votes.


Even if he loses, he wins a moral victory if those who believe in him keep pushing his message and agenda all the way....and beyond.

boston bean

(36,224 posts)
32. A moral victory where he and Clinton share many of the same views and goals.
Wed May 11, 2016, 08:56 AM
May 2016

I'm sorry, but you best understand that there is very little difference between the two. That might make you uncomfortable, but deal with it.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
37. They do but they don't. There is a fundamental difference in vision
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:08 AM
May 2016

Yes on a number of policies, they are similar. (Although that's not what Clinton supporters claim. Sanders is all "ponies and unicorns" and radical leftism, according to them.)

They have fundamentally different views on the relationship between government and the issues of Wealth and Power.

Clinton is in the rarified air of the elites at the top of the neo-liberal pyramid, where corporations and Wall St. have lost all sense of morality, and are willing to do whatever it tales to add a few points to the quarterly reports and so the CEOs and Robber Barons at the top can add more millions to their income.

These are the people she hobnobs with and listens to.

She lives in the world where these big players robber barons have purchased the government, and politicians go through the revolving door. The effect is that common sense laws that affect the REAL LIVES of REAL PEOPLE get scuttled on a regular basis, while laws that allow the Fat Cats to get fatter by screwing the rest of us glide through quietly.

Sanders reresents the view that government should be operated by and responsive to the people, and be work for the interests of the majority (the 90 percent) instead of lobbyists.




GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
20. So Hillary is losing state after state to someone who's campaign is "over"?
Wed May 11, 2016, 08:28 AM
May 2016

Losing badly too -- 52% to 36%

How will she make it to July 25th?

metroins

(2,550 posts)
53. Hillary could
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:49 AM
May 2016

Sit on a beach in Cabo until the convention and she's still win.

Sanders incompetent campaign staff and strategy lost it for him back in March.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
78. It's Hillaryous that she would repurpose that move of Obama brushing her shit off..
Wed May 11, 2016, 02:52 PM
May 2016

of his shoulder.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
81. I know. It has been there forever...so many people.
Wed May 11, 2016, 03:15 PM
May 2016

Do they not know from whence it came, or.. not see the irony?

In years past she would have been just another "strong" Democratic candidate; back before... what...back when so few knew what was really going on....(not that 'we' even now know what is REALLY, REALLY going on)...back before Bernie let the truth out of the bag for all to see.

THAT changes everything.
It puts her in a different position relative to everything.

It puts her in a perspective that many either honestly do not see, or refuse to see, or just don't care about what they see.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
28. Last time I checked Hillary is short of the required amount of delegates and Bernie is still in
Wed May 11, 2016, 08:38 AM
May 2016

the race. Get lost!

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
33. Which Super Tuesday are we talking about? The 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th one?
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:02 AM
May 2016

You guys have touted so many of them it's hard to keep track.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
38. You apparently are delusional.
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:08 AM
May 2016

The campaign has continued on.

It will continue until one candidate clinches the nomination. That has no happened and will not happen until June 7, at the earliest. So settle in for 27 more days of campaigning!

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
44. Realistically, how do you expect to get their votes if you shut them out of the process?
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:21 AM
May 2016

Forget my feelings, forget yours. Is it wise to tell 50 million voters to go to hell until you decide you want their support later?

Hillary is not doing that; whatever else I think about her, I know she's a smart strategist.

boston bean

(36,224 posts)
45. No one is shut out of this process. Hillary has won the nomination.
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:22 AM
May 2016

I repeat Hillary has won the nomination.

It's over.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
48. That's exactly the attitude I'm referring to.
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:28 AM
May 2016

She has not won the nomination. All the pretending won't make it so. You are effectively telling millions of DEMOCRATS that their votes don't matter. Which they may well believe, resulting in President Donald Trump.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
69. It's my belief that thoughtful and mature voters are not likely to try and correlate the ...
Wed May 11, 2016, 12:56 PM
May 2016

... significance of their General Election vote with how much impact (or lack thereof) their primary vote had in the nomination process.

Most rational people are able to comprehend the difference, and are accepting of the fact that when the nominee has been established prior to their state's primary, and when any other contender has been mathematically eliminated, then their late-scheduled primary vote won't change the outcome.

The attitude that some are adopting ("my late-primary vote didn't matter, so I'm just not gonna vote in the general&quot is an immature response to the reality of math, the reality of scheduling, the denial that we don't have a National Primary Day ... and it's little more than self-pity and pure distilled vanity.

If those people lack the ability to cope with disappointment and to accept reality... and if they want to sit out the General Election as a way to "punish" others, and as a way to soothe their own hurt feelings, or to make themselves feel better about having the "misfortune" of living in a late-primary state ... well... that's their choice, isn't it?

I won't indulge their egos. If they've made up their minds to not vote, then it's a waste of anyone's time to convince them otherwise. OR... if it's just an empty threat, and they plan to vote anyway, then that's ALSO a waste to spend time trying to "convince" them to do something that they're actually going to do anyway. (It's all so silly.)

They can do what they want and believe as they will. I don't care.

Response to boston bean (Reply #45)

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
51. Back in 2008 Hillary's campaign was also effectively over, and she stayed in until
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:40 AM
May 2016

after the last primary and caucus.

If she really has won, then you can afford to be magnanimous and extend to him the same courtesy of remaining in the race until the last vote.

Some of us haven't voted yet, and we'd like to cast a ballot we see as meaningful.

-none

(1,884 posts)
59. Who are you trying to convince?
Wed May 11, 2016, 11:14 AM
May 2016

Yourself or those of us that are fed up with more of the ever shifting Rightward status quo? It looks like it is probably yourself because the fixes the DNC are doing aren't working out as planned. Bernie is still in the race and gaining.
Even if Bernie loses, this won't be over. The people will have their say. We want control of our country back from the 1%. Hillary is the bought and paid for representative for 1%

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
84. Eliminating the Electoral College would open the door for 3rd parties, wouldn't it?
Wed May 11, 2016, 03:55 PM
May 2016

How can we do that? I wonder what would need to happen before we can get rid of it.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
85. I would love to see it. But, the game is fixed.
Wed May 11, 2016, 04:08 PM
May 2016

The two party system runs the government and they aren't about to risk their seats by allowing that to happen. Democracy is all well and good....if the bosses can control it.

A government of, by, and for the people it ain't. But, optimist that I am, I think the younger generation is catching on and getting fed up.

I'm an old man now but I hope the younger folks will follow John Steinbeck's exhortation to Russian students back in the early '60s: "Young wolves, show us your teeth."

PufPuf23

(8,845 posts)
97. Do you need a nap perhaps?
Wed May 11, 2016, 08:46 PM
May 2016

Some of us have yet to vote.

Much can happen between now and the convention.

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