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My new Election prediction (Original Post) lancer78 May 2016 OP
Trump isn't winning Virginia StayFrosty May 2016 #1
I notice you flipped VT Recursion May 2016 #3
In the greatest electoral lancer78 May 2016 #4
I like yours better bluegopher May 2016 #26
Trump wins VA when pigs fly Recursion May 2016 #2
Georgia might be in play lancer78 May 2016 #5
Georgia is not in play. The voting system is unreliable, for starters. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #7
w4rma—Here is a link… CobaltBlue May 2016 #14
And Georgia as well Demsrule86 May 2016 #12
What I like is how Florida is irrelevant lancer78 May 2016 #6
lancer78—Your map is wrong. CobaltBlue May 2016 #15
They may be predictors lancer78 May 2016 #17
Also lancer78 May 2016 #18
I'd love to see a cite for that. OilemFirchen May 2016 #22
We get Obamas 2012 map MFM008 May 2016 #8
MFM008—Add Indiana! CobaltBlue May 2016 #16
Is this a worst case scenario for Clinton? DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #9
yeah, I would say so Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #10
Any gambler who was forced to take a parlay... DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #11
This is an absolute lancer78 May 2016 #13
There's going to be a lot of fingernail repair necessary after the election. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #19
The blue states lancer78 May 2016 #23
The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men, Gang aft agley, Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #24
Oh Jesus I hope it isn't that close. Tiggeroshii May 2016 #20
oooh, I love a close one. bigwillq May 2016 #21
 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
4. In the greatest electoral
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:30 AM
May 2016

demographic change by race in the history of America, the Coalition of the Ascendant prepares to rescue America. And to America's rescue, the Coalition of the Ascendant marches.

In 2008, the Coalition of the Ascendant knocked quietly on the door and helped propel Obama to the Oval office.

In 2012, the Coalition of the Ascendant pounded on the door and destroyed Willard's "White Horse" prophecy.

In 2016, the Coalition of the Ascendant will BLOW the door wide open, and will come to dominate American presidential politics.

After 2016, if the minority vote goes 80-20 for the Democrat, there will never be a Republican President ever again until the Republican party cuts off the malignant tumor known as the bigoted, rural white voter.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
2. Trump wins VA when pigs fly
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:25 AM
May 2016

Hell, his nomination puts NC back in play for us. There's just not enough of Southside left for the GOP in statewide elections.

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
5. Georgia might be in play
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:34 AM
May 2016

All it would of taken in 2012 is for 150,000 voters to switch parties out of 3,000,000.

Demsrule86

(68,799 posts)
12. And Georgia as well
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:39 AM
May 2016

Obama came close in 12 without even campaigning...Trump will bring out extra votes...the fear factor...fear of electing a monster to the presidency...who has his hands on the nuclear buttons.

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
6. What I like is how Florida is irrelevant
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:40 AM
May 2016

in a lot of these maps, no matter how Florida goes, it doesn't change the outcome of the election. Tim Russert would have been disappointed and hopefully Chuck Toad can shut up about his home state.

 

CobaltBlue

(1,122 posts)
15. lancer78—Your map is wrong.
Mon May 9, 2016, 02:27 PM
May 2016

If the 2012/2016 national shift is toward the Republicans (which, by recent reports, indicates the opposite), then it would be strong enough to deliver a Republican pickup of the presidency to Donald Trump.

In 2012, President Obama was re-elected with winning the U.S. Popular Vote by nearly +04 percentage points. If the nation is shifting beyond that, the map moves and delivers a GOP pickup.

Florida (29 electoral votes), Ohio (18 electoral votes), Virginia (13 electoral votes), and Colorado (09 electoral votes)—those are the most influential states. They are bellwether states. And they are on course to carry for presidential winners for quite some time.

Whichever party one predicts to win Election 2016—color Florida, Ohio, Virginia, and Colorado the same.

MFM008

(19,834 posts)
8. We get Obamas 2012 map
Mon May 9, 2016, 05:28 AM
May 2016

plus Arizona, Missouri,
MAYBE Georgia

Possibly Montana, Mormons Hate Trump so Utah will be interesting
NC a possibility--remote but still.
I say Ass kissing McCain still bitter from 2008 is History.
We get the senate
MAYBE the house.
We all are happy and have champagne.

 

CobaltBlue

(1,122 posts)
16. MFM008—Add Indiana!
Mon May 9, 2016, 02:30 PM
May 2016

The margins between Indiana and Missouri were eerily close to each other in both 2008 and 2012.

They officially carried differently in 2008—Barack Obama won a Democratic pickup of Indiana by +1.03 while Missouri held on for losing Republican John McCain by +0.13. But, that was only a +1.16 spread. In 2012, with both states in losing Republican Mitt Romney's column, their spread was even tighter.

Point is: Both states are likely to carry the same again in 2016—and they will probably be quite close to each other.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
9. Is this a worst case scenario for Clinton?
Mon May 9, 2016, 07:39 AM
May 2016

Any unbiased analysis would indicate OH, VA, NC, and FL lean Clinton.

That's what I believe the Sabato map, the Cook map, and aggregate polling indicate.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
11. Any gambler who was forced to take a parlay...
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:20 AM
May 2016

Any gambler who was forced to take a parlay would bet it is more likely she wins all those four states than loses all four of them.

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
13. This is an absolute
Mon May 9, 2016, 10:52 AM
May 2016

worst case for the democratic nominee. I do believe that our nominee will definitely pick up Virginia.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
25. The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men, Gang aft agley,
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:51 PM
May 2016
But Mousie, thou are no thy-lane,
In proving foresight may be vain:
The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men,
Gang aft agley,
An' lea'e us nought but grief an' pain,
For promis'd joy!


Robert Burns

Hillary has an aptitude for making "mistakes". There's still about 5 months until the election and a lot of room for mistakes.

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