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Logical

(22,457 posts)
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:02 PM May 2016

LOL, ok Hillary supporters, what would you suggest we Bernie supporters do?

I see all these idiotic posts about how we know Bernie cannot win, etc.

Lets say we agree, what would you like us to do?

Jump on the Hillary bandwagon? BS to that. We know the real Hillary. And many of us do not think she is a good dem.

I'll vote for Hillary, just to stop Trump, not because I think she is a good candidate. I have a feeling most US Dems will vote for her for the same reason.

Hillary needs to use that as her slogan "Hillary 2016, Better than Trump"

So let us know how we are supposed to behave, you all seem to have all the answers.








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LOL, ok Hillary supporters, what would you suggest we Bernie supporters do? (Original Post) Logical May 2016 OP
I also would like to know -- a curiosity thing. oldandhappy May 2016 #1
Join them in their gloating? HassleCat May 2016 #2
I wish they would kill the Reagan dragon, and resurrect the FDR dragon, but they apparently have no highprincipleswork May 2016 #57
Personality Cults hate us for our free stuff! dchill May 2016 #58
Wake up and bury the Right Wing Sheepshank May 2016 #3
How does us still cheering for Bernie hurt Hillary? nt Logical May 2016 #6
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #9
Cheering for Bernie is great, but in the attempt to damage Hillary Sheepshank May 2016 #18
People were calling Bill Clinton a Republican president for years on this site. vintx May 2016 #24
We are a party divided. Silver_Witch May 2016 #25
Depends on whether one knows what a Democrat once was. pangaia May 2016 #37
But that would mean we'd have to vote against her. Fawke Em May 2016 #35
Hillary says Bernie should stay in the race floppyboo May 2016 #4
Stop committing ThoughtCrime Armstead May 2016 #5
Seems simple, does it not yourpaljoey May 2016 #11
They claim Sanders isn't a Democrat. HooptieWagon May 2016 #7
Good for you. Yavin4 May 2016 #10
No, it's on Dems who support a Republican (D) candidate. HooptieWagon May 2016 #20
Enjoy President Trump. Yavin4 May 2016 #23
He's no worse than Hillary. HooptieWagon May 2016 #29
+1 840high May 2016 #42
She compromised on minimum wage creeksneakers2 May 2016 #46
She has changed her rhetoric not her positions. We don't trust her, she has lied in the past. rhett o rick May 2016 #55
It seems they are forcing that... how curious yourpaljoey May 2016 #15
Quite frankly, this Hillary supporter does not really care what you do. Yavin4 May 2016 #8
You ought to care what 40 percent of the primary voters think Armstead May 2016 #12
I don't care. Yavin4 May 2016 #17
You only THINK you survived those guys. pangaia May 2016 #38
45 percent, actually. Fawke Em May 2016 #39
Dem voters are 29% of the electorate. vintx May 2016 #14
It has sunk in. You won't vote for her for any reason. Yavin4 May 2016 #21
This isn't about me. I'm a Dem voter in a deep red state. This is about the GE. vintx May 2016 #28
She's reaching out to Rethugs because CA coming up...think about it. bkkyosemite May 2016 #31
That's what PUMA might say RobertEarl May 2016 #30
The answer is no secret. We've accepted the fact that many of you won't vote for her. Trust Buster May 2016 #13
Why should we care? Fawke Em May 2016 #40
I was responding to a specific question that the thread author asked of us. Trust Buster May 2016 #43
Realize even if you might not be working to get the top ticket, you can still.... moriah May 2016 #16
Nothing. I expect nothing. hrmjustin May 2016 #19
I think your vote is your own griffi94 May 2016 #22
First, please try to discourage the nonsense from some about the superdelegates overthrowing Nye Bevan May 2016 #26
Well not using right wing talking points to bash her would be a nice place to start. iandhr May 2016 #27
On to WV, OR, CA and others. bkkyosemite May 2016 #32
simple. Stop name-calling and trashing the Democratic nominee Lil Missy May 2016 #33
Stop with the Emailgate and assorted nonsense, for starters Tarc May 2016 #34
Never. Fawke Em May 2016 #41
Oh, spare me, you never cared about cabinet members e-mail until Tarc May 2016 #45
Haha Stryguy May 2016 #52
Well if he says anything else amusing, beep me on my pager, yo Tarc May 2016 #53
"Hillary 2016, Better than Trump ask Dick Cheney" bahrbearian May 2016 #36
do you what you want. quit acting like everyone else is responsible for your personal choices by msongs May 2016 #44
Drop the persecution fantasies creeksneakers2 May 2016 #47
You preface your question with 'LOL'?? postatomic May 2016 #48
Some should write "David Brock's paid shills are not hiding under the bed" 100 times on betsuni May 2016 #49
Oh, the actual slogan currently is "Love trumps Hate" postatomic May 2016 #50
Listen to Obama speech on feeding the negativity. seabeyond May 2016 #51
Bernie will lead the way, he will support Hillary in the GE, he will display his leadership. Thinkingabout May 2016 #54
+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #59
Help us get congress back! bettyellen May 2016 #56
Nothing. They wrote us off, juried us into submission, and blocked us. silvershadow May 2016 #60
I think you should make your own decisions, after MineralMan May 2016 #61
Nothing! Change nothing. Starry Messenger May 2016 #62
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
2. Join them in their gloating?
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:08 PM
May 2016

They're so pleased and excited that they have almost killed the Bernie dragon. Should we crash the party for some free cake?

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
57. I wish they would kill the Reagan dragon, and resurrect the FDR dragon, but they apparently have no
Mon May 9, 2016, 01:02 AM
May 2016

stomach for that.

Response to Logical (Reply #6)

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
18. Cheering for Bernie is great, but in the attempt to damage Hillary
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:23 PM
May 2016

...the person most likely to get the nomination, in the rush to damage Hillary, people are escalating the image we are a party divided, infusing a sense of superiority to RW, providing a message to those who not as wonky as we, that she is so damaged sitting out the election is a viable option, and perhaps Trump is not all that different to Hillary.

Constantly promoting the message that Hillary = Republican is one of the biggest lies tolerated and promoted on this "Dem" site.

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
24. People were calling Bill Clinton a Republican president for years on this site.
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:27 PM
May 2016

She is no different.

So, what... now that his wife is the nominee, stating such observations is verboten?

There is no 'image' that this is a divided party - it is a fact. Maybe you think if we all hold hands and sing kumbaya on DU, somehow that will fool someone? Anyone? Do you really think so?

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
25. We are a party divided.
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:28 PM
May 2016

Hillary is not a dem or a republican. We cannot know what she is - until she is in office than we will know all too well.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
4. Hillary says Bernie should stay in the race
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:12 PM
May 2016

And I think this is a clever move on her part. Not only does it save her from looking like a hypocrite, but it keeps the media focused on the wide inclusive range of issues and people that make up democrats. Need #'s!!!

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
7. They claim Sanders isn't a Democrat.
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:18 PM
May 2016

We're more than willing to support Sanders as a third party candidate in the GE since that appears tobe what they want.

Yavin4

(35,454 posts)
10. Good for you.
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:20 PM
May 2016

And if your support of a 3rd party candidate means that Trump is president, then that's on you.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
20. No, it's on Dems who support a Republican (D) candidate.
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:25 PM
May 2016

She's not willing to compromise with the left one iota, no reason we should then. The Right Wingers can't take our votes for granted. If we don't have a place at the bargaining table, then you republican Lites are on your own.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
29. He's no worse than Hillary.
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:30 PM
May 2016

The country survived 8 years of W. It'll survive 4 years of whoever gets elected in Nov. Meantime, a left party will form. If Dems want to split the RW with Republicans, go ahead.

creeksneakers2

(7,484 posts)
46. She compromised on minimum wage
Sun May 8, 2016, 11:45 PM
May 2016

and the Keystone pipeline and TPP among others. Every time she compromises you guys say it shows she's a liar.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
55. She has changed her rhetoric not her positions. We don't trust her, she has lied in the past.
Mon May 9, 2016, 12:59 AM
May 2016

She lied about WMD in Iraq. She lied either when she said she supported the Reagan's position on AIDS or when she changed and said she didn't. Most Americans give her a very low trust rating.

Yavin4

(35,454 posts)
8. Quite frankly, this Hillary supporter does not really care what you do.
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:19 PM
May 2016

I don't speak for all Hillary supporters, but I'm done. I'm over this. If you don't want to vote for the Democratic nominee, then that's your choice. I'm not going to beg you to vote for Hillary.

Bernie was rejected by a majority of the Dem voters, and yet somehow, his supporters simply cannot accept that reality.

Yavin4

(35,454 posts)
17. I don't care.
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:22 PM
May 2016

I survived Reagan twice and a Bush 3 times. There's nothing that Trump can do to me. I will be okay. Will you?

Yavin4

(35,454 posts)
21. It has sunk in. You won't vote for her for any reason.
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:25 PM
May 2016

So, what's the point of trying to appease you?

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
28. This isn't about me. I'm a Dem voter in a deep red state. This is about the GE.
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:30 PM
May 2016

Her supporters are so busy patting themselves on the back and feeling smug about WINNING, but they refuse to take their oh-so-comfy blinders off.

Yes, lots of Dem primary voters like her. Many others don't. Dems. Many DEMS don't.

And DEMS are a touch under 1/3 of the electorate.

This is why she's now reaching out to Republicans.

Y'all don't need to worry about us. As you said, she's never had a chance with us.

What you should be worried about is how many others she may still lose, in her effort to court republican votes.

Good luck.

Enjoy the next six months.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
30. That's what PUMA might say
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:32 PM
May 2016

Why should a PUMA give a damn about other Dems and their principles, is right on their cover latter.

Way to go yavin!

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
13. The answer is no secret. We've accepted the fact that many of you won't vote for her.
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:20 PM
May 2016

Stop attacking her, stop crashing her campaign rallies. Like a doctor, do no harm. It can only help Trump at this point. Is that too much to ask ?

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
40. Why should we care?
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:54 PM
May 2016

We want to get the word out about her. If the truth about her makes Trump more popular, that's on you for nominating her, not us.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
43. I was responding to a specific question that the thread author asked of us.
Sun May 8, 2016, 11:05 PM
May 2016

If you don't care, then don't respond. Get over yourself.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
16. Realize even if you might not be working to get the top ticket, you can still....
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:22 PM
May 2016

... work, and vote, to ensure that people supporting Bernie's ideas are fairly represented on the platform committee (a move I think Hillary should endorse, as it would make the Convention go more smoothly).

Every vote still does count.

Volunteer and vote in the remaining primaries. Make sure your voice is heard if you haven't been able to speak.

----

Best advice I can give. After that your decisions are your own.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
22. I think your vote is your own
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:25 PM
May 2016

But Bernie isn't going to be the nominee.

Candidates in elections are often not thrilling.
What you can live with is up to each individual.

I would wonder why the Bernie supporters who state
over and over and over that they'll never vote for Hillary
continue to say that when it's been well documented.

Is it just so we know how angry they are.
Because if that's why.
We already get it.

The declarations of Bernie or Bust aren't going to
change the outcome of the primary at this point.

It seems to me that it's like beating a dead horse.

Bernie isn't going to be our nominee

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
26. First, please try to discourage the nonsense from some about the superdelegates overthrowing
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:29 PM
May 2016

the democratically expressed wishes of the voters.

Second, also try to discourage the attacks on Hillary that exactly echo what we've been hearing from Republicans since 1992 (Whitewater, Vince Foster, Benghazi, Bill's affairs, etc.)

Third, if Bernie had beaten Hillary by several million votes and was poised to win the nomination, I wouldn't be thrilled at the voters' choice, but I would accept that the main priority is to beat Donald Trump in November. So let's start criticizing Trump and the Republicans to the same extent that Bernie fans have been attacking Hillary.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
41. Never.
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:56 PM
May 2016

As someone who works in cyber security, her unsecured server is exactly WHY I can't vote for her.

That's a real issue. Not a made-up GOP one.

How can anyone possibly think an FBI investigation is "nonsense?" This isn't Gowdy partisan Benghazi committee. The FBI is the country's premier criminal investigative unit.

Tarc

(10,478 posts)
45. Oh, spare me, you never cared about cabinet members e-mail until
Sun May 8, 2016, 11:42 PM
May 2016

Last edited Mon May 9, 2016, 12:31 AM - Edit history (1)

it became a political football to use against your political opponent.

Also, "cyber" ? Seriously? No one says "cyber" unless they're either stuck in 1999 or on the creative team for CBS' out-of-touch crime dramas.

Please, drop some "information superhighway" on us next.

Stryguy

(209 posts)
52. Haha
Mon May 9, 2016, 12:17 AM
May 2016

I was surfing the information superhighway and found this thread. What that guy wrote was so funny I made a copy to my zip drive.

I also made a note in my PDA to check this thread in the future just in case I don't get an electronic mail message to alert me of updates.

Cyber security. Haha

msongs

(67,496 posts)
44. do you what you want. quit acting like everyone else is responsible for your personal choices by
Sun May 8, 2016, 11:12 PM
May 2016

"forcing" you you to do what you dont want to do

creeksneakers2

(7,484 posts)
47. Drop the persecution fantasies
Sun May 8, 2016, 11:50 PM
May 2016

Its annoying to read things like Bernie Sanders supporters are being forced to vote or are being thrown under the bus or any number of untrue things.

betsuni

(25,798 posts)
49. Some should write "David Brock's paid shills are not hiding under the bed" 100 times on
Sun May 8, 2016, 11:52 PM
May 2016

the chalkboard.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
60. Nothing. They wrote us off, juried us into submission, and blocked us.
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:59 AM
May 2016

They literally aren't expecting anything from us, as they have now pivoted to courting Republicans (the triangulation so many of us have been writing about for months on end now).

I guess they know better than we.

I have no intentions of playing nice going forward. They can figure out how to reach me other ways. Perhaps through my Union local? Good luck with that plan.

MineralMan

(146,351 posts)
61. I think you should make your own decisions, after
Mon May 9, 2016, 09:49 AM
May 2016

consideration of all of the available facts. Most Sanders supporters will vote for Clinton in November. What individual supporters do, however, is entirely up to them.

Those who stay around on DU will read many arguments about why voting for Clinton makes the most sense. We'll try to convince people of that but it remains an individual decision, as always.

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