2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe End of The Democratic Party
Over at Counterpunch Robert Urie explains Charles Koch's endorsement of Hillary and why it spells doom for the Democratic Party:
As Bill Clinton, whose policies Mr. Koch preferred to those of George W. Bush, and Barack Obama have demonstrated it is socially liberal Democrats who have been the better proponents of Wall Streets neo-capitalist takeover precisely because they accomplish with stealth economic policies what Republicans attempt more straightforwardly through politics.
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As Charles Kochs endorsement of Hillary Clinton suggests, Mrs. Clintons role is to keep the unwashed masses in their place, not to affect substantive political change.
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The question back for both Democrats and Republicans is: how responsible is it to put forward an ossified political order as the only choice in the face of its four decades of conspicuous political and economic failures? Hillary Clinton is the candidate of this failure just ask Charles Koch.
[link:http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/05/06/hillary-clinton-and-the-end-of-the-democratic-party/|
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)bye bye
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Thx.
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)Well stated, I was trying to articulate that in a reply yesterday.
Things like outsourcing and offshoring sold as a way to "raise a village", and the whole subprime mortgage mess to help people realize "the American Dream" were both supported by "compassionate" Democrats but were in reality designed to shift wealth to the 1% and destroy the middle class.
vintx
(1,748 posts)I am so stealing that
CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)I stole it from someone else! We share, we Berners do!
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)What would you call it?
Meteor Man
(385 posts)I believe Rob Urie refers to a soft endorsement. The point is that DWS, Rahm and Hillary support policies favorable to the Koch brothers and financial racketeers.
Meteor Man
(385 posts)Liberal incredulity at Charles Kochs (Koch Bros.) recent (soft) endorsement of Hillary Clinton assertions that is was either a non-sequitur or a ploy to discredit her, was to dismiss the endorsement without answering the question: what about Mrs. Clintons policies, or those of any other establishment Democrat for that matter, could inheritance babies, oil and gas industry magnates and long-term supporters of the radical Right like Mr. Koch possibly object to?
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Oh, I know ....maybe Cheney as her VP? ... or Bill Kristol as a policy advisor?
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)really clutching at straws now.
Joob
(1,065 posts)if Bernie loses. It amazes me how much corruption is ignored simply because someone is a "Democrat" or their name is "Hillary"
Eh, whatever, hopefully Bernie can save this party, though it will be just as satisfying knowing I won't be in this party any longer if he loses. I won't have that guilt of being in a corrupt party.
jamese777
(546 posts)does not make or break a major political party. People have been predicting the demise of both political parties in any election cycle where they lose. They're both still around for 188 (Democrats) and 162 (Republicans) years respectively.
Meteor Man
(385 posts)Yep. A single election is rather unimportant.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)four decades -- beginning with Reagan?
Tarc
(10,478 posts)Starting off with a lie renders the rest of the post irrelevant.
Vote2016
(1,198 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. It certainly has turned out to be just that, so far...Not looking forward to the next many months. I won't breathe easy until it's all over...and maybe not even then.
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)Most of whom have zero in the way of political instincts. Sanders may be right on most of the issues but his followers are utterly clueless about politics.
So yeah, not really that impressed with your predictions.