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Meteor Man

(385 posts)
Sat May 7, 2016, 03:46 PM May 2016

The End of The Democratic Party

Over at Counterpunch Robert Urie explains Charles Koch's endorsement of Hillary and why it spells doom for the Democratic Party:

As Bill Clinton, whose policies Mr. Koch preferred to those of George W. Bush, and Barack Obama have demonstrated— it is socially liberal Democrats who have been the better proponents of Wall Street’s neo-capitalist takeover precisely because they accomplish with stealth economic policies what Republicans attempt more straightforwardly through politics.

. . .

As Charles Koch’s endorsement of Hillary Clinton suggests, Mrs. Clinton’s role is to keep the unwashed masses in their place, not to affect substantive political ‘change.’

. . .


The question back for both Democrats and Republicans is: how responsible is it to put forward an ossified political order as the only choice in the face of its four decades of conspicuous political and economic failures? Hillary Clinton is the candidate of this failure— just ask Charles Koch.


[link:http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/05/06/hillary-clinton-and-the-end-of-the-democratic-party/|
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The End of The Democratic Party (Original Post) Meteor Man May 2016 OP
I can't wait. wendylaroux May 2016 #1
Link Please....Looks like an interesting read. n/t KoKo May 2016 #2
Link fixed Meteor Man May 2016 #3
It is, isn't it? CentralCoaster May 2016 #19
Off topic: Love that Hillary pic in your sig! vintx May 2016 #20
By all means, use it! CentralCoaster May 2016 #22
Charles Koch never endorsed Hillary. This is a lie. Trust Buster May 2016 #4
"It's possible' Clinton is preferable" 99th_Monkey May 2016 #6
Please read the article Meteor Man May 2016 #7
Soft endorsement Meteor Man May 2016 #8
Koch's endorsement, Jeb Bush's donors, Kissinger's her "mentor" .... what next? 99th_Monkey May 2016 #5
Another RW fantasy. JoePhilly May 2016 #9
And not even a particularly interesting one. They are COLGATE4 May 2016 #10
First time voter, last time voting in this party. Joob May 2016 #11
One election jamese777 May 2016 #12
Abraham Lincoln? Meteor Man May 2016 #13
Why do you call it "one election" when the NeoCons have been in power for nearly Cal33 May 2016 #14
Koch did not endorse Hillary, nor would she ever accept it if she did Tarc May 2016 #15
Now we have a right-wing Demopublican party and a far right RepubliTea Party. FDR must be proud. Vote2016 May 2016 #16
Trash thread. Meh, this might as well be Freeperville. MoonRiver May 2016 #17
I said right here on DU, many months ago, that DWS and HRC were determined to silvershadow May 2016 #18
You and hundreds of others here CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #21
 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
19. It is, isn't it?
Sat May 7, 2016, 10:01 PM
May 2016

Well stated, I was trying to articulate that in a reply yesterday.

Things like outsourcing and offshoring sold as a way to "raise a village", and the whole subprime mortgage mess to help people realize "the American Dream" were both supported by "compassionate" Democrats but were in reality designed to shift wealth to the 1% and destroy the middle class.

Meteor Man

(385 posts)
7. Please read the article
Sat May 7, 2016, 04:19 PM
May 2016

I believe Rob Urie refers to a soft endorsement. The point is that DWS, Rahm and Hillary support policies favorable to the Koch brothers and financial racketeers.

Meteor Man

(385 posts)
8. Soft endorsement
Sat May 7, 2016, 04:25 PM
May 2016
Liberal incredulity at Charles Koch’s (Koch Bros.) recent (soft) endorsement of Hillary Clinton — assertions that is was either a non-sequitur or a ploy to discredit her, was to dismiss the endorsement without answering the question: what about Mrs. Clinton’s policies, or those of any other establishment Democrat for that matter, could inheritance babies, oil and gas industry magnates and long-term supporters of the radical Right like Mr. Koch possibly object to?
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
5. Koch's endorsement, Jeb Bush's donors, Kissinger's her "mentor" .... what next?
Sat May 7, 2016, 04:12 PM
May 2016

Oh, I know ....maybe Cheney as her VP? ... or Bill Kristol as a policy advisor?

Joob

(1,065 posts)
11. First time voter, last time voting in this party.
Sat May 7, 2016, 05:00 PM
May 2016

if Bernie loses. It amazes me how much corruption is ignored simply because someone is a "Democrat" or their name is "Hillary"
Eh, whatever, hopefully Bernie can save this party, though it will be just as satisfying knowing I won't be in this party any longer if he loses. I won't have that guilt of being in a corrupt party.

jamese777

(546 posts)
12. One election
Sat May 7, 2016, 05:02 PM
May 2016

does not make or break a major political party. People have been predicting the demise of both political parties in any election cycle where they lose. They're both still around for 188 (Democrats) and 162 (Republicans) years respectively.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
14. Why do you call it "one election" when the NeoCons have been in power for nearly
Sat May 7, 2016, 05:21 PM
May 2016

four decades -- beginning with Reagan?

Tarc

(10,478 posts)
15. Koch did not endorse Hillary, nor would she ever accept it if she did
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:04 PM
May 2016

Starting off with a lie renders the rest of the post irrelevant.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
18. I said right here on DU, many months ago, that DWS and HRC were determined to
Sat May 7, 2016, 09:53 PM
May 2016

snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. It certainly has turned out to be just that, so far...Not looking forward to the next many months. I won't breathe easy until it's all over...and maybe not even then.

 

CorkySt.Clair

(1,507 posts)
21. You and hundreds of others here
Sat May 7, 2016, 10:06 PM
May 2016

Most of whom have zero in the way of political instincts. Sanders may be right on most of the issues but his followers are utterly clueless about politics.

So yeah, not really that impressed with your predictions.

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