2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton Promises A More Muscular Foreign Policy As President
WASHINGTON In the lead-up to the 2008 presidential election, Hillary Clintons vote to authorize the Iraq War six years before haunted her on the campaign trail. It put her in stark contrast with then-Senator Barack Obama, who touted his foresight in opposing the ill-fated war. But if Clinton was scarred by the perception that her foreign policy agenda is too hawkish for the Democratic Party, she showed no signs of it Wednesday morning in a speech detailing her plan to counter Iran after the implementation of the nuclear deal.
While Clinton was instrumental in paving the road for the nuclear negotiations with Iran in 2012 and supports the accord reached between Iran, the U.S., and five world powers in July, she made clear on Wednesday at the Brookings Institution that she does not view the agreement as marking a shift in U.S.-Iranian relations.
I dont believe Iran is our partner in this agreement. Iran is the subject of the agreement, Clinton said, using rhetoric that notably contrasts with that of the Obama administration, which has been consistenly cautious about not upsetting Iran.
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See, since we won't have college, or jobs, she will ensure there will be plenty of wars going on for us all to fight in. So I guess Hillary has a full employment plan after all..... We all get to kill us some Syrians! I wonder if she will raise the pay for your average soldier?
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)The back-and-forth confirms anyones worst suspicions about access journalism. The transaction went like this:
Ambinder asks for a copy of the speech;
Reines says hell send it, with conditions;
Ambinder writes back, ok;
Reines lays out the conditions:
1) You in your own voice describe them as muscular
2) You note that a look at the CFR seating plan shows that all the envoys from Holbrooke to Mitchell to Ross will be arrayed in front of her, which in your own clever way you can say certainly not a coincidence and meant to convey something
3) You dont say you were blackmailed!
Ambinder writes, got it.
The story, it turns out, rated Clintons speech muscular and indeed made reference to the seating thing: The staging gives a clue to its purpose: seated in front of Clinton, subordinate to Clinton, in the first row, will be three potentially rival power centers: envoys Richard Holbrooke and George Mitchell, and National Security Council senior director Dennis Ross, wrote Ambinder, completing his compliance with Reiness conditions.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2016/02/09/corrupt-journalism-doesnt-pay-nor-does-abetting-it/
Ethics? Who needs that? Certainly not the President of these United States...
AzDar
(14,023 posts)pugetres
(507 posts)about the above incident.
Thank you for reminding me.
Response to JPnoodleman (Original post)
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bjo59
(1,166 posts)countries that leaves death, mutilation, and total misery spread across the land. Ho, ho, ho... "muscular" like a football player! Go team!
Ino
(3,366 posts)to get journalists to describe her as "muscular"? We've heard that word before...
Sent: Wednesday, July 15 2009 10:06 AM
To: Ambinder, Marc
Subject: Re: Do you have a copy of HRCs speech to share?
3 (conditions) actually
1) You in your own voice describe them as muscular
2) You note that a look at the CFR seating plan shows that all the envoys from Holbrooke to Mitchell to Ross will be arrayed in front of her, which in your own clever way you can say certainly not a coincidence and meant to convey something
3) You dont say you were blackmailed!
One minute later, Ambinder responded:
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:07 AM
To: Philippe Reines
Subject: RE: Do you have a copy of HRCs speech to share?
got it
grasswire
(50,130 posts)That weathervane is about to spin off its axis.
JPnoodleman
(454 posts)I mean I cannot wait to celebrate these new cultures by fire bombing a fuck ton of it.
HORRAY! GLORIOUS HILLARY GIVES FREE EXTENDED KINDA PAID VACATIONS! AND GUNS!
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Once a chickenhawk, always a chickenhawk.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)... young Americans and brown skinned "furriners" die to make big profit$$$ for Hillary's cronies.
Clinton, the war profiteer candidate.
Tell me again why I would EVER support such a immoral person.