2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIs Sanders the Better Candidate to Defeat Trump?
We lose with Hillary. Big time.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)Mesee
(42 posts)Absolutely. The Media has made every attempt to push Hillary and Donald down our throats. My family both Democrats, Independents and Republicans would vote for Bernie in a heartbeat.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)and a Hillary nomination will equate to a Dem loss.
There is no enthusiasm gap for Hillary, as long as you're a Republican who's salivating at the chance to vote against her
DrDan
(20,411 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)HRC is willing to take down the party for her obsession with being the first female President. And yes, she and the Democratic Establishment believe fervently that it her "her turn".
Trump will eviscerate her. She doesn't take face to face calling her on her issues, i.e. flip flops, well at all. Nor is she charismatic, like Bill. Same as her supporters here. They can not deny what is on record...and it is a long record. So, they attack the messenger...either the source (since the MSM doesn't cover Bernie) or the member for pointing it out. Heck we Bernie folks were called out for "pimping" by having the nerve to point out inconvenient facts.
The poor victim Hillary...we are out to get her. No, we just don't want her as nominee or president...and most especially the first female president.
Bernie is the winner. The mood of the country is to "throw out the bums"...that would be The Establishment. The Bushes are gone. Next, it will be the Clintons. Sorry, no New York Senator position for Chelsea.
rdking647
(5,113 posts)clinton is in all likelyhood going to be the nominee. thats simple reality
if you dont support the nominee your not really a democrat. it doesnt matter if teh nominee is clinton or sanders.
a democrat will vote for either of them instead of drumpf.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)There are no caucuses or superdelegates in the general election
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)I think Clinton has a decent chance to beat the vulgar talking yam...but Bernie would absolutely crush him.
Moreover, Bernie would be a vastly better president than Trump...instead of a slightly better one.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Sanders' agenda would just be the more clearly distinguishable, for whatever that would be worth.