2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWAPO: scant evidence against Hillary, no indication of grand jury, claims by Guccifer dismissed
Prosecutors and FBI agents investigating Hillary Clintons use of a personal email server have so far found scant evidence that the leading Democratic presidential candidate intended to break classification rules.FBI agents on the case have been joined by federal prosecutors from the same office that successfully prosecuted 9/11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui and who would handle any Edward Snowden case, should he ever return to the country, according to the U.S. officials familiar with the matter. And in recent weeks, prosecutors from the U.S. Attorneys Office in the Eastern District of Virginia and their FBI counterparts have been interviewing top Clinton aides as they seek to bring the case to a close.
The involvement of the U.S. Attorneys Office is not indicative that charges are imminent or even likely. One official said prosecutors are wrestling with the question of whether Clinton intended to violate the rules, and so far, the evidence seemed to indicate she did not.
There is no indication a grand jury has been convened in the case.
U.S. officials also dismissed claims by a Romanian hacker now facing federal charges in Virginia that he was able to breach Clintons personal email server. The officials said investigators have found no evidence to support the assertion by Marcel Lehel Lazar to Fox News and others, and they believed if he had accessed Clintons emails, he would have released them as he did when he got into accounts of other high-profile people.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/federal-prosecutors-in-virginia-assisting-in-clinton-email-probe/2016/05/05/f0277faa-12f0-11e6-81b4-581a5c4c42df_story.html
George II
(67,782 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)I knew from the start there's no there 'there'. Just more Republican attempts to smear a Clinton since they've got nothing but losers on their side - and the biggest one just won the title of the presumptive nominee. Bwaaahahaha!
pat_k
(9,313 posts)The likelihood of an indictment is not zero. The chances may be tiny, but factors other than intent may come into play.
Sales points to the Petraeus case in particular, noting that the former CIA head did not, in the end, plead guilty to charges related to sharing classified information with his mistress and biographer, but rather to those related to him keeping the information in a desk drawer inside his home. "The conduct that is being investigated [in Clinton's case] keeping the documents on an unclassified server that's kind of the digital equivalent of locking it in your desk drawer, which is ultimately what did in General Petraeus," he says.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/what-should-we-make-of-the-hillary-clinton-indictment-speculation-20160503#ixzz47pDlWWxL
Demsrule86
(68,788 posts)Wrote pretty much the same story a while back...rightie with an agenda. National Review is a right-wing rag. Always check your sources unless you want to mislead or something.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/421896/criminal-or-not-hillary-clintons-e-mails-are-national-security-risk-nathan-sales
pat_k
(9,313 posts)Thanks!
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)but those dirty little things, we call FACTS, just keep getting in the way. The FBI, the people who are investigating the case, have found no evidence of any "intent to mishandle". Sorry that the facts keep getting in the way.
And for those who want to keep comparing this to Gen Petraeus' case, Gen Pertraeus intentionally gave classified files to his mistress (an unauthorized person) during pillowtalk. The fact that they settled on a lessor charge would seem to me that they spared him from the embarrassment that he had coming. Gen Petraeus' affair actually began when he was the Supreme Commander of all US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. Simply having an affair as a military officer was grounds for court martial while in the military. All troops deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan were instructed that any sex of any kind while in Iraq and Afghanistan was subject to prosecution under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ). I know this because I worked for the DoD and we sent civilian government employees over there and they were briefed before they were deployed than anyone caught having sexual relations of any kind while there, even civilians, could be prosecuted under the UCMJ. Gen Petraeus as the highest ranking Officer and leader of all Iraq to have violated that order would have had to face some disciplinary action for violating the rule against NO sex, and for having an affair which is punishable under the UCMJ. I know that his conviction was while he was the CIA Director, but during their investigation of his giving classified documents to his mistress, it came out that his mistress was present and the affair was ongoing while he was still in the military. The fact that they let him plead guilty to a lessor charge was obviously a face saving mechanism, but I'm sure that there were stipulations which came with it, which the world will never know.
pat_k
(9,313 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)questionseverything
(9,666 posts)we're rooned!
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Can you confirm otherwise?
procon
(15,805 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Jeebus.... just let it the fuck go.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)If they even exist?
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)I suggest you look there
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Maybe the indictment fairy will come.
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)Both are big Clinton cheerleaders on MSNBC and elsewhere. Hmm, I wonder what they contributed?
The only facts in this article are what were already known, the rest is opinion by anonymous sources -- the typical spin we have seen all along. It means zip.
When the FBI reports in, the credibility of all these spinners will be shot forever. That will be an added plus, weeding out the liars from those who are objective.
BootinUp
(47,211 posts)CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)oasis
(49,480 posts)That about sums it up.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)to agents and prosecutors
Aerows
(39,961 posts)if you get behind the wheel after you have been drinking for it to be a crime.