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Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:37 AM May 2016

Bernie would have a very hard time using "some form of punishment" to attack Trump.

Because Trump would immediately counter with these words of Bernie: "A man goes home and masturbates his typical fantasy. A woman on her knees, a woman tied up, a woman abused ..... Do you know why the newspaper with the articles like 'Girl 12 raped by 14 men' sell so well? To what in us are they appealing?"

An unfair attack? Certainly; Bernie was just a youth in his thirties when he wrote those words. But Trump would still use them to stop Bernie in his tracks whenever Bernie tried to attack him on anything to do with women's rights.

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Bernie would have a very hard time using "some form of punishment" to attack Trump. (Original Post) Nye Bevan May 2016 OP
Sorry, that's bullshit. cali May 2016 #1
I'm pretty sure Trump would label him "rape-fantasy Bernie" just as he labeled Cruz "lyin' Ted". Nye Bevan May 2016 #3
It's really a moot point, Trump will never have to run against Sanders. George II May 2016 #14
I think it would be "Bernie the Commie" oberliner May 2016 #15
"Socialist Bernie"? Hard to complain about that one, because Bernie has called himself that. Nye Bevan May 2016 #17
I'm pretty sure that Bernie could use actual accusations of rape against trump cali May 2016 #20
Particularly the line about how attractive his daughter is and loyalsister May 2016 #18
Indeed it would KingFlorez May 2016 #2
Bernie hasn't been subjected to 1% the negative press he could have been. CrowCityDem May 2016 #4
Yep. In the polls of Bernie vs Trump and Hillary vs Trump, Nye Bevan May 2016 #5
Hillary's husband as a surrogate on the stump...accused of multiple instances of sexual harrassment. virtualobserver May 2016 #6
Crap like this is why you are going to give Trump the race Kelvin Mace May 2016 #7
I couldn't give Trump the race even if I wanted to. Nye Bevan May 2016 #9
You don't win elections without independents Kelvin Mace May 2016 #19
It is a ridiculous attack and any literate person would know that. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #8
It's not enough to earn the vote of every literate person..... you need a majority! Nye Bevan May 2016 #11
I am not at all surprised you are so attune to trumps thinking. morningfog May 2016 #10
Not very hard after sitting through the Republican debates (nt) Nye Bevan May 2016 #12
Jury results: George II May 2016 #13
Thanks for the info (nt) Nye Bevan May 2016 #16
The guy that just recently said he would fuck his daughter? Good luck and goodnight. TheKentuckian May 2016 #21

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
3. I'm pretty sure Trump would label him "rape-fantasy Bernie" just as he labeled Cruz "lyin' Ted".
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:44 AM
May 2016

It's really not difficult to picture in one's mind how the debates would play out.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
17. "Socialist Bernie"? Hard to complain about that one, because Bernie has called himself that.
Thu May 5, 2016, 12:16 PM
May 2016

There are probably a few that Trump would alternate between.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
20. I'm pretty sure that Bernie could use actual accusations of rape against trump
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:04 PM
May 2016

Not to mention his having closely associated with Jeffrey Epstein. Due to Bill's close association with the same scuba, Hillary really can't.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
18. Particularly the line about how attractive his daughter is and
Thu May 5, 2016, 12:26 PM
May 2016

how he'd be dating her if she was not his daughter. A guy who currently seems to regret that incest is, among too many other things, "politically incorrect" would definitely exceed a piece of fiction from 1969 on the pervert scale.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
2. Indeed it would
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:41 AM
May 2016

It doesn't matter how young Sanders was (he was old enough to know better anyway) or how long ago it was, those words are going to be toxic to the median swing voter. Would they vote for Trump? No, but they wouldn't vote for Sanders either. You'd have a ton of people opting to sit out.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
5. Yep. In the polls of Bernie vs Trump and Hillary vs Trump,
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:46 AM
May 2016

everyone knows every single negative about Hillary because it has been drummed into us nonstop over the last umpteen years. By comparison very few respondents indeed are aware of all of Bernie's negatives; most people probably see him as an affable old codger who's going to stick it to Wall Street. But by the time November comes around this will all have changed.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
6. Hillary's husband as a surrogate on the stump...accused of multiple instances of sexual harrassment.
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:48 AM
May 2016

even rape....Trump himself accused of rape by an ex-wife....

I don't think that an article of social commentary by Bernie is in the same league.

Bernie wasn't advocating these things.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
9. I couldn't give Trump the race even if I wanted to.
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:52 AM
May 2016

How many women are going to vote for him after "some form of punishment" and "blood coming out of her wherever"? How many minorities are going to support him? If only white males could vote he would be fine, but as it is, he's doomed by the demographics.

And I'm not sure what any of this has to do with a dice game.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
19. You don't win elections without independents
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:19 PM
May 2016

and HRC's numbers are not very good with them. So far the only reason to vote "for" her is to vote against Trump. Not a thing that makes people turn out.

George II

(67,782 posts)
13. Jury results:
Thu May 5, 2016, 12:05 PM
May 2016

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This is a disgusting and offensive OP and attack.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu May 5, 2016, 12:02 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: agree with alerter
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: A little reading comprehension may be in order. While The Donald may indeed use that in an ad, Bernie could turn it around by saying "The Donald is just the type of sick f*ck that I was talking about back then. The type who looks at a newspaper article about a 14 year old rape victim and uses it as a masturbatory fantasy"
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Come on, democrats should be above this!
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No violation of any of DU's rules. Sanders supporters should stop misusing the jury system to hide threads they don't like.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Stupid alert. Before doing so, the alerter should have done his/her homework. This is a DIRECT quote of Bernie Sanders as a 31 year old man. Even the poster noted that that would be an unfair attack, but it would happen. Again, Sanders' OWN WORDS.

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