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http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/05/02/state-party-officials-reportedly-displeased-clinton-dnc-laundering-schemeMonday, May 02, 2016
State Party Officials Reportedly Displeased with Clinton-DNC 'Laundering' Scheme
Sanders campaign lambastes Clinton for 'looting funds meant for the state parties to skirt fundraising limits on her presidential campaign.'
byDeirdre Fulton, staff writer
Hillary Clinton's use of a so-called joint fundraising committee, through which her presidential campaign, the Democratic National Committee (DNC), and 32 state party committees can solicit big-money donors, is under fire not just from rival Bernie Sanders, but also from state party officials and their allies, according to reporting by Politico.
Politico's deep dive into the latest Federal Election Commission filings, published Monday, shows that the Hillary Victory Fund "has transferred $3.8 million to the state parties, but almost all of that cash ($3.3 million, or 88 percent) was quickly transferred to the DNC, usually within a day or two, by the Clinton staffer who controls the committee."
The analysis continues:
By contrast, the victory fund has transferred $15.4 million to Clintons campaign and $5.7 million to the DNC, which will work closely with Clintons campaign if and when she becomes the partys nominee. And most of the $23.3 million spent directly by the victory fund has gone towards expenses that appear to have directly benefited Clintons campaign, including $2.8 million for salary and overhead and $8.6 million for web advertising that mostly looks indistinguishable from Clinton campaign ads and that has helped Clinton build a network of small donors who will be critical in a general election expected to cost each side well in excess of $1 billion.
Unsurprisingly the arrangement is ruffling more than a few feathers, notably "among some participating state party officials and their allies," according to Politico reporters Kenneth P. Vogel and Isaac Arnsdorf. "They grumble privately that Clinton is merely using them to subsidize her own operation, while her allies overstate her support for their parties and knock Sanders for not doing enough to help the party."
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"Secretary Clinton has exploited the rules in ways that let her high-dollar donors like Alice Walton of Wal-Mart fame and the actor George Clooney and his super-rich Hollywood friends skirt legal limits on campaign contributions," Weaver said. "If Secretary Clinton can't raise the funds needed to run in a competitive primary without resorting to launderinga, how will she compete against Donald Trump in a general election?"
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Just when things can't seem to get any more crazy
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Heaven help out troops and their families if she becomes president. Why do I think that Cheney is smiling at the though of a neocon winning the Presidency.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Remember when she said:
Time for a refresher!
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/02/18/hillary_clinton_wont_flatly_deny_she_will_never_lie_to_the_public.html
arcane1
(38,613 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,252 posts)OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)citing the ever-reliable Politico, citing the ever-reliable anonymous sources.
What's not to like?
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)That leaves those who are not so friendly to do the task.
Get real ... slamming political/progressive sites and media outlets that don't kow tow is getting OLD.
Back to Shoot the Messenger, rather than defend or explain the facts as written. Shoddy.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)Right.
I take it you don't like or approve of liberal websites like Common Dreams.
You must really hate The Nation and The Progressive!
What more conservative websites do you depend on for your news and information.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)I've always been impressed by their ability to maintain a high level of integrity despite often contentious internecine battles. I find the Progressive to be fairly reliable, though not as readable as in the past.
Common Dreams is garbage hipster faux-journalism. That they cite Politico - and specifically a typical unsourced crapfest - is evidence.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)Whatever.
See my post, submitted before your question.
Y'know what happens when you ass?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)People ain't buying that BS
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)I trust no one implicitly.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)Progressive dog
(6,931 posts)the fundraising? I wonder if he's the same Weaver who works for Bernie. Probably not, since Bernie signed the same joint fundraising agreement that Hillary's campaign is using. That would be dishonest not to disclose that and we know Bernie's campaign always claims to be honest.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)misusing the system to launder money. But I'm sure you don't care as to Clinton "The Ends Justify the Means."
Progressive dog
(6,931 posts)I noticed that Bernie raised no money for Democrats in the same period. Of course that would be expected.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Progressive dog
(6,931 posts)for 3 candidates, one of whom is running in the Democratic primary for congress in my district. She is coming off an illustrious political career of first trying to get the Working Family party nomination to run against the Dem. Gov. Cuomo in the general. When that nomination went to Cuomo, she challenged him in a primary and lost. So maybe the other two are Democrats, but she sure isn't.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)find yourself on the opposite side of Clinton.
Progressives don't support:
The corruption of Big Money in government via Citizens United.
Job killing "Free Trade" agreements
Fracking for oil company profits over people's water quality.
Unregulated domestic spying and no oversight for the NSA/CIA Security State.
Drone killing of terrorist "suspects" in foreign lands (100 innocents killed for each suspect)
Prisons for Profits
American Exceptionalism as an excuse for neocon imperialism.
Progressives do support:
Strengthening Social Security (e.g., raising the cap)
Helping college students afford college (telling them to get a job doesn't cut it).
Making major corps pay their fair share of taxes
Reducing the defense budget
Taking a hard stand against torture and indefinite detention.
The end of the militarization of our local police forces.
The legalization of marijuana especially for medical use. Denying medical marijuana to those that need it is cruel.
Progressive dog
(6,931 posts)phony slogans. Slogans do not represent thought.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)or fracking or the Patriot Act or denying medical marijuana to those suffering.
Speaking of phony slogans, name some progressive issues you support.
Progressive dog
(6,931 posts)doesn't make it any less phony.
If I knew what you believed to be progressive, I still wouldn't bother feeding your problem of thinking outside of slogans.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Progressive dog
(6,931 posts)replaces thought with lists.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)DebDoo
(319 posts)"They grumble privately that Clinton is merely using them to subsidize her own operation, while her allies overstate her support for their parties and knock Sanders for not doing enough to help the party."
jwirr
(39,215 posts)first they make our votes irrelevant by giving huge support to Hillary through these laundered donations and then they say we are not doing enough to support the party. The party quit helping my candidate the day they entered into this agreement.
And they are ignoring that the Bernie supporters are supporting party candidates outside the DNC system. We even have a pac for that purpose.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)>As a Bernie supporter and delegate I think it is ironic that
>first they make our votes irrelevant by giving huge support to Hillary through these laundered donations and then they say we are not >doing enough to support the party. The party quit helping my candidate the day they entered into this agreement.
>And they are ignoring that the Bernie supporters are supporting party candidates outside the DNC system. We even have a pac for that purpose.
Its getting old, this double standard.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)kstewart33
(6,551 posts)riversedge
(70,441 posts)w4rma
(31,700 posts)And within the Democratic Party, the Clintons sabotage Democrats.
aikoaiko
(34,186 posts)We have been down the road before.
Of course this is all too believable of the HRC campaign.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)the reactions of the donors. Arguably, the donors opinions should count the most. But it's good to hear from a representative of a state party that is affected by how the money gets cut up.
Edit: I never really thought much of campaign finance law, I saw it in terms of the claim that Secretary Clinton, rather than Sanders, has been working hard for others. So that too is interesting, that some are saying the law might have been violated.
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Xyzse
(8,217 posts)Washington Post has discussed this before, but there has been no actual investigation.
I know I have cited this issue quite a few times before.
Is there an Investigation to this now?