2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie is staying in as long as he can. All the minute by minute insults of him
and the voters who voted for him and organized for his candidacy is the smoke of short sighted bridge burning.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)I love Bernie's press conference it was great and now I know what he is looking at. Great.
djean111
(14,255 posts)My bridge does not allow war and fracking and the TPP and cluster bombs and liars and no to single payer and means-testing Social Security instead of raising the cap, to cross. So, in some cases, the insults are just gratuitous and they know the bridges are burnt and do not care.
When the record says this - under Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Democrats have lost 900+ state legislature seats, 12 governors, 69 House seats, 13 Senate seats - I believe they are just looking for scapegoats for the next loss. And making a situation that has been ongoing for years (I think deliberately, and where did the money go?) into Bernie's fault, and Bernie's job to fix - this is so very hypocritical and transparent. And, really ugly in intent.
I would love for Bernie to bring up the massive loss of seats since Debbie DINO was appointed. She is either inept or deliberate. And a campaign which started out with such a massive lead, and massive money, and still not sealed the deal - that is a lousy campaign for a lousy candidate. Not Bernie's problem.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)So many Democrats spend so much time attacking other Democrats instead of the real enemy.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)I'll never vote for a neocon.
Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)And only helps the Republicans.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)I won't badger you over hour support of a compromised candidate.
Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)I saw how principled opposition instead of electability handed everything to her on a plate. If you're in opposition you can do naff all.
I don't have a vote in your election, I don't have to make a decision. I do fear for the consequences of a Trump/Cruz presidency. I not bothered either way regarding Clinton/Sanders.
oasis
(49,480 posts)JudyM
(29,294 posts)has become corporatocracy and needs to be restored... Which won't happen with a corporatist, even if she is a dem.
oasis
(49,480 posts)from now we may have publicly financed campaigns. I look forward to getting both done.
JudyM
(29,294 posts)oasis
(49,480 posts)Gothmog
(145,839 posts)It is sad to see Sanders use these tactics
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Can't recognize someone principled without projecting onto him
randome
(34,845 posts)But there's nothing like that here. Hillary is the clear, clear winner on both fronts. (We might add that Sanders' numbers heavily leverage states with caucuses, which mainly function as ways to keep participation really low.)
For the same reason they wouldn't try to help Clinton overturn the clear verdict of the primary process in 2008, they certainly aren't going to help Sanders overcome it in 2016. Add to that that most do genuinely support Clinton over Sanders. But even though it's not going to happen, how exactly does Sanders, with a straight face, say that his strategy is to have the reviled 'establishment' step in and give him the nomination by overruling the actual voters?
All the wishing in the world won't make any difference. I agree that the insults are unneeded but much of it is a reaction to the hatred and vitriol aimed at Clinton.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)[/center][/font][hr]
Armstead
(47,803 posts)When politicians decide to cast their lot wirh corporate lobbyists, Wall St. banksters and otehr unsavory bullies and greedy bastards, it does tend to get people angry who believe we should try to do better than to continue enabling that kind of swill.
And yeah, I'm not just referring to the GOP -- although their rank and file are pissed at the same thing.