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Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:01 PM Apr 2016

OK Now This is just too much! Hillary PAC pays for trolls to try and defame Bernie!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/21/1518537/-Clinton-SuperPac-Admits-to-Paying-Internet-Trolls


Citing “lessons learned from online engagement with ‘Bernie Bros,’” a pro-Hillary Clinton Super PAC is pledging to spend $1 million to “push back against” users on Twitter, Facebook, Reddit and Instagram.
Correct the Record’s “Barrier Breakers” project boasts in a press release that it has already “addressed more than 5,000 people that have personally attacked Hillary Clinton on Twitter.” The PAC released this on Thursday.

The PAC was created in May of last year when it was spun off from the American Bridge SuperPAC, which is run by longtime Hillary and Bill Clinton supporter David Brock. Brock also founded the left-wing media watchdog website Media Matters for America.

Some Bernie Sanders-supporting users on Reddit already started to notice the changes on Thursday afternoon.
“This explains why my inbox turned to cancer on Tuesday,” wrote user OKarizee. “Been a member of reddit for almost 4 years and never experienced anything like it. In fact, in all my years on the internet I’ve never experienced anything like it.”

Correct the Record, which has received $5 million this campaign season and has spent almost $4.5 million of it, according to OpenSecrets.org, outlined its strategy against “swarms of anonymous attackers” in a press release.

EDIT: I found out this "Bernie bros" is pretty bad but Sanders has nothing to do with it.
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OK Now This is just too much! Hillary PAC pays for trolls to try and defame Bernie! (Original Post) Maraya1969 Apr 2016 OP
yeah... artyteacher Apr 2016 #1
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #17
your point... ? artyteacher Apr 2016 #18
We know your significant other. Maraya1969 Apr 2016 #19
do ya? artyteacher Apr 2016 #24
Are you not the BSer who posted this gem? revmclaren Apr 2016 #29
What Should You Expect From This "Outfit?" CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #48
Why should Bernie be the only to put trolls to work? nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #2
Link? G_j Apr 2016 #6
This is so sad. DU has always maintained a special type of integrity by insisting that people Maraya1969 Apr 2016 #35
Bernies "messngers" a.k.a. "paid trolls" puffy socks Apr 2016 #44
NO. Those are not trolls. I can spot trolls easily and so can every other honest person Maraya1969 Apr 2016 #47
Trolls are not difficult to spot on a discussion board. Baitball Blogger Apr 2016 #74
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #16
Just click on their profile PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #3
It really is pretty obvious who they are. Not fooling anyone really. litlbilly Apr 2016 #7
says the person who has an interesting history themself rbrnmw Apr 2016 #69
WOW! They come out like roaches! And a common technique I see from Rethugs is to accuse the other Maraya1969 Apr 2016 #8
It is a Rovian tactic. PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #11
Maybe it's HRC's jobs program Fairgo Apr 2016 #56
Sort of like "blaming the victim" ReRe Apr 2016 #37
Exactly. NewImproved Deal Apr 2016 #77
You now have 5 hides Bernie Bob. revmclaren Apr 2016 #32
2 for posting publicly availble profile details. frylock Apr 2016 #60
How in hell is posting people's profiles garnering hides? frylock Apr 2016 #59
Obviously trying to deflect with making it about the poster treestar Apr 2016 #64
So they are paying to fight back against some of their own paid trolls? Skwmom Apr 2016 #4
It's a circular firing squad BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #9
I don't remember you being this way in the past. Maybe you can post a link that shows Bernie Maraya1969 Apr 2016 #36
DU has had several C to S "switchers" who convinced no one who didn't want to be convinced Fumesucker Apr 2016 #46
Perfect totalitarian strategy for Hillary BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #5
Dammit ... salinsky Apr 2016 #10
Oh well no pay, but it's fine, I consider it volunteering for Bernie . . . All in it together Apr 2016 #12
You're right ... salinsky Apr 2016 #14
Free? No, it's been costing me money to be a BernieBro! JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #58
Still overpaid ... nt salinsky Apr 2016 #61
Yes, I'm overpaid getting Social Security. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #62
Pays for trolls? More like people to fight the lies, half truths and out of context spin told by SFnomad Apr 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #15
Do you have a point? Yeah, didn't think so n/t SFnomad Apr 2016 #20
I am no math expert, but only 17 posts in the prior EIGHT YEARS........ nolabels Apr 2016 #30
You should look in the mirror and introduce yourself to the pointless one SFnomad Apr 2016 #34
I just put up two sets of mirrored closet doors in the back bedrooms, how did you know? nolabels Apr 2016 #45
I hope it at least puts food on the table. Broward Apr 2016 #21
Probably not at a penny a post (or whatever Brock's paying). Buns_of_Fire Apr 2016 #31
Right is that why pinebox Apr 2016 #22
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something Broward Apr 2016 #26
When President Obama was a candidate, he had paid Rapid Response Teams to combat the lies, etc SFnomad Apr 2016 #23
Clinton's people are acting like Rethugs. That is the problem Maraya1969 Apr 2016 #39
No, they're combating people that are acting like Rethugs ... n/t SFnomad Apr 2016 #41
Acting like a Republican: Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #75
Yeah, just like the way your acting right now ... SFnomad Apr 2016 #79
The talking point for "explaining" this is to "counter harassment" mindwalker_i Apr 2016 #25
I'm shocked that there's paid trolling in this establishment! HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #27
There's a lot of paid trolls on this site for Bernie, the Repubs might be paying for them, Pisces Apr 2016 #28
Maybe you could substantiate what you just said? Maraya1969 Apr 2016 #40
And, Faux pas Apr 2016 #33
It doesn't say she hired trolls. It says she hired people to counter the intense lies BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #38
name the lies 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #43
Hillary isnt involved in this. But I am glad it's being done. Lucinda Apr 2016 #50
par for her 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #42
There seem to be a lot of them on DU lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #49
I think it's on Reddit, mostly Califonz Apr 2016 #51
am I supposed to be paid for my support? MFM008 Apr 2016 #52
No, you COULD have been paid... ret5hd Apr 2016 #57
Manufactured consent Fairgo Apr 2016 #53
they are welcome to come on here to debunk all the shit Repubs "for" Berniie spread here. Bill USA Apr 2016 #54
Beating Bernie at his own game ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #55
Hillary Supporters Are Really On the Defense PCPrincess Apr 2016 #63
This was the tipping point for me noamnety Apr 2016 #65
she has to pay them? Deb Apr 2016 #66
so, pushing back against personal attacks and outright lies means "defame bernie"?? Lil Missy Apr 2016 #67
Bernie Sanders employs online trolls via Revolution Messaging. They are still hiring. OhZone Apr 2016 #68
No one is being paid to troll. postatomic Apr 2016 #70
They know that,but it's a great excuse for throwing sufrommich Apr 2016 #72
Do they? postatomic Apr 2016 #73
This has been going on awhile. It's been evident on DU for a LONG time. nt NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #71
With her record, she's got to pay Trolls to ''Correct the Record.'' Octafish Apr 2016 #76
This is bullshit jcgoldie Apr 2016 #78
What's wrong with fighting fire with fire? Blue_Tires Apr 2016 #80

Response to artyteacher (Reply #1)

Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
35. This is so sad. DU has always maintained a special type of integrity by insisting that people
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:26 PM
Apr 2016

substantiate their claims.

Now we get people just making things up and it OK?

I am still waiting for some sort of proof that Bernie Sanders had paid trolls, well not really because their is no proof and it is a completely ridiculous statement that only lazy thinking would believe.. Apparently it's OK now to just make this kind of crap up.

Baitball Blogger

(46,697 posts)
74. Trolls are not difficult to spot on a discussion board.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:30 AM
Apr 2016

Sometimes it's just comes down to their very narrow topic of interest.

Response to Jitter65 (Reply #2)

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
3. Just click on their profile
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:05 PM
Apr 2016

DU tracks history pretty well, it is easy to tell who the new (possibly paid) trolls are.

New profiles with lots of posts. Old profiles that did not start posting until very recently. Transparency pages showing on new accounts. There are several signs.

Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
8. WOW! They come out like roaches! And a common technique I see from Rethugs is to accuse the other
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:10 PM
Apr 2016

of what they are doing. (Like now saying Bernie using trolls...........nothing about that matches anything that this man has said or done in his 40 some years in politics.)

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
56. Maybe it's HRC's jobs program
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:42 PM
Apr 2016

Image fluffing could be a permanent job. Too bad they will all be outsourced to India.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
64. Obviously trying to deflect with making it about the poster
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:01 AM
Apr 2016

And not the post content. WHO rather than what.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
4. So they are paying to fight back against some of their own paid trolls?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:05 PM
Apr 2016


Does anyone really think all of those Bernie Bros are actual Bernie supporters?

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
9. It's a circular firing squad
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:10 PM
Apr 2016

Are they going to have code words to let each other know they're on the same sleazy team?

Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
36. I don't remember you being this way in the past. Maybe you can post a link that shows Bernie
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:28 PM
Apr 2016

supporters are PAID to be trolls.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
46. DU has had several C to S "switchers" who convinced no one who didn't want to be convinced
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 03:04 PM
Apr 2016

I wouldn't be entirely surprised if we saw one or two more either. I don't think anyone is getting paid but people will play strange games on the internet.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
5. Perfect totalitarian strategy for Hillary
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:08 PM
Apr 2016

Publicly announcing that her campaign is going to pay trolls to try to shut down people who dare to tell the truth about what she is.

She actually thinks she can put free speech on the internet back in the bottle. It shows how clueless she and her dirty tricks team are.

All in it together

(275 posts)
12. Oh well no pay, but it's fine, I consider it volunteering for Bernie . . .
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:18 PM
Apr 2016

And working against MSM misinformation and ignoring much of what's happening.

And trying to communicate with other people . . .

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,336 posts)
62. Yes, I'm overpaid getting Social Security.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:22 PM
Apr 2016

Clinton will somehow fix it so my Social Security is reduced.

Chained price indexing should help, as well as means-testing.

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
13. Pays for trolls? More like people to fight the lies, half truths and out of context spin told by
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:21 PM
Apr 2016

the BS surrogates and cheerleaders. This is a good thing and will be good practice for them for when the real experts at lies and scorched Earth politics of the RepubliCONs take aim at the Democratic nominee ... Secretary Clinton.

Response to SFnomad (Reply #13)

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
30. I am no math expert, but only 17 posts in the prior EIGHT YEARS........
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:02 PM
Apr 2016

But SIX HUNDRED AND NINETY SOME in the last three months is not a little peculiar?

I have no points for those who think they are pointless

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
34. You should look in the mirror and introduce yourself to the pointless one
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:12 PM
Apr 2016

I see the other posts where you did the exact same thing were hidden ... and then you rushed to mine to self delete before it got voted off too. LOL.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
45. I just put up two sets of mirrored closet doors in the back bedrooms, how did you know?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:57 PM
Apr 2016

It's must just be something to do with sparkling reputation that anonymity brings

The thing is you just don't know sometimes. The idea i would plot and carry out some kind vendetta against another person's persona in an anonymous forum seems preposterous to me, but if you wish to elaborate how i did any of it, is okay with me. I am keen to listen to anyone when they are giving out information that might concern.

Last time i looked being curious about strange numbers was not against the rules here at DU. It just seemed like kind of strange thing to me.

I have been around here since 2002 and seen all kinds, so not too much surprises

Buns_of_Fire

(17,172 posts)
31. Probably not at a penny a post (or whatever Brock's paying).
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:07 PM
Apr 2016

But I think every post enters them in a drawing to win exclusive dumpster-diving rights after the next million-dollar fundraiser/dinner. And a FREE autographed 8x10 glossy suitable for framing (supplies limited, frame not included, please include 14.95 S&H).

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
22. Right is that why
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:39 PM
Apr 2016

there's 13 minutes of Hillary lying?
Tell us more. Or is YouTube now a RW source?



Broward

(1,976 posts)
26. "It is difficult to get a man to understand something
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:49 PM
Apr 2016

when his salary depends on his not understanding it."

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
23. When President Obama was a candidate, he had paid Rapid Response Teams to combat the lies, etc
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:40 PM
Apr 2016

I never heard any of the "progressives" complain about it then. Of course, now that Secretary Clinton is doing it, it's a bad thing ... how very typically Republican of those "progressives".

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
79. Yeah, just like the way your acting right now ...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:04 AM
Apr 2016

by just posting half-truths. Because if you only read what you posted, you wouldn't know ....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/03/11/hillary-clinton-apologizes-for-praising-nancy-reagans-response-to-hivaids/

"While the Reagans were strong advocates for stem cell research and finding a cure for Alzheimer's disease, I misspoke about their record on HIV and AIDS," Clinton said in a statement. "For that, I'm sorry."


mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
25. The talking point for "explaining" this is to "counter harassment"
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:46 PM
Apr 2016

So it's playing on the well-worn idea that all Bernie supporters are misogynist men - a.k.a. BernieBros - that are harassing poor Hillary and her supporters.

Hillary supporters have a persecution complex that would make a Christian blush!

The conclusion? Hillary doesn't have any positions worth promoting so instead, she buys trolls to harass Bernie suporters. For a couple bucks. This kind of proves the Reddit posts recently from former paid supporters.

Bottom line: Hillary would make a terrible president.

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
28. There's a lot of paid trolls on this site for Bernie, the Repubs might be paying for them,
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:59 PM
Apr 2016

But they are here none the less.

BreakfastClub

(765 posts)
38. It doesn't say she hired trolls. It says she hired people to counter the intense lies
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:29 PM
Apr 2016

that are constantly bandied about the internet about her. I'm glad she did this because it means she has learned from her 2008 campaign. She's doing a much better online job this time around.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
49. There seem to be a lot of them on DU
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 03:46 PM
Apr 2016

but based on the quality of their posts, I think Clinton Super PAC is being seriously ripped off.

 

Califonz

(465 posts)
51. I think it's on Reddit, mostly
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:26 PM
Apr 2016

in the politics and sandersforpresident subreddits.

I've got so many Hillbots on ignore I have no idea how bad the problem is here at DU.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
54. they are welcome to come on here to debunk all the shit Repubs "for" Berniie spread here.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:36 PM
Apr 2016


maybe some of it is from actual Bernie supporters. I can't tell the difference looking at their posts.

PCPrincess

(68 posts)
63. Hillary Supporters Are Really On the Defense
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:55 PM
Apr 2016

Wow! Not only defensive, but such rationalizations! One thing that always bewilders me is the thought that some of the extremely spiteful, demeaning, and downright bullying comments to supporters of Mr. Sanders could possibly be posted by people who are responsible for bringing up little people. I'm so frustrated and ashamed sometimes at the behavior of human beings. We are old enough to vote, to give birth, to drink alcohol, and yet, we can't even maintain a minimum level of maturity when discussing politics.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
65. This was the tipping point for me
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:01 AM
Apr 2016

that made me put seemingly half of DU on ignore. I'm sure there are a few Hillary supporters who are sincere in their beliefs, but I'm not interested in spending my free time reading paid advertisements for her.

Knowing that the posts in support of her are being paid for, and not even necessarily by people who believe what they are posting but just folks who need the money, calls into question the credibility of every pro-hillary poster. So I just trashed them all.

I've been on DU since forever, it seems ... but I'm feeling like I'm going to have to phase it out. I'd rather spend more time outside relaxing than sit here reading shitposts that Brock paid for.

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)
67. so, pushing back against personal attacks and outright lies means "defame bernie"??
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 11:38 AM
Apr 2016

I think you are making shit up.

OhZone

(3,212 posts)
68. Bernie Sanders employs online trolls via Revolution Messaging. They are still hiring.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:26 PM
Apr 2016

Want to be a paid troll for the Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign? You are in luck. Revolution Messaging is still accepting applicants.

The gig: You will work directly with Revolution Messaging staff to assist clients in shaping, maintaining and evolving their online presence in a niche technology market during an election year. Interns will get direct, hands-on experience with cutting edge digital targeting tools that are vital in the campaigns of today and tomorrow in a fast-paced political environment. This is a paid internship.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/22/1518673/-Bernie-Sanders-employs-online-trolls-via-Revolution-Messaging-They-are-still-hiring

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Oh well! ha

postatomic

(1,771 posts)
70. No one is being paid to troll.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:56 PM
Apr 2016

I basically get the same messaging that this new program provides. The main purpose is to counter posts like this, which are completely deceiving.

Again, and I'll type slowly.....No.One.Is.Being.Paid.to.Troll

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
76. With her record, she's got to pay Trolls to ''Correct the Record.''
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:59 AM
Apr 2016

War on Iraq. Check.
War on Honduras. Check.
War on Ukraine. Check.
War on Syria. Check.
War on Libya. Check.

Let banksters go. Check.
Cash check from UBS. Check.

How much does it take to sell one's integrity?

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