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Gothmog

(144,920 posts)
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:52 AM Apr 2016

Bernie Sanders Unlikely to Flip Many Texas Superdelegates

I know several of the Texas super delegates and I agree with this analysis https://www.texastribune.org/2016/04/21/bernie-sanders-campaign-unlikely-flip-many-texas-s/


If Sanders has a shot at the nomination, some of those hundreds of superdelegates would have to be from Texas. But according to a handful of interviews among the state’s power brokers on Wednesday, turning on the former U.S. secretary of state will be a hard sell in the Lone Star State.

Most superdelegates are current or former officeholders or members of the Democratic National Committee. The party created the designation in the early 1980s to exert some control over the nomination process.

While Sanders has a few dozen superdelegates backing his campaign, Clinton dominates in support of those Democrats nationally — and particularly in Texas.

“I’m trying to figure out what metric I should look at in making a decision to suddenly flip my support for Bernie Sanders," said state Rep. Rafael Anchia, a superdelegate from Dallas. “Hillary Clinton won the district that I represent 70 to 30 percent; she won the state of Texas 65 to 35 percent, roughly; she has won far more states than he has; she has won more pledged delegates than he has."

It's an argument many other superdelegates from Texas and elsewhere echoed.

I have met Rafael at several fundraisers and is a smart person
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Bernie Sanders Unlikely to Flip Many Texas Superdelegates (Original Post) Gothmog Apr 2016 OP
Bernie is openly disrespecting Democratic voters with his super-delegate plan. IamMab Apr 2016 #1
Echoing the BS cheerleaders words from early on in the primary season SFnomad Apr 2016 #2
Bernie's toast. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #3
"Most superdelegates are current/former officeholders or members of the DNC." antigop Apr 2016 #4
and I'm sure the TX Dem party was "neutral" during the primary. Sure it was. antigop Apr 2016 #5
Sanders lost the African American, Latino and women vote Gothmog Apr 2016 #15
NO, the TX Dem party is the amusement. They really think we don't know what is going on. nt antigop Apr 2016 #16
Women, African American and Latino voters are not voting for Sanders in other states Gothmog Apr 2016 #19
You really are a hoot! Posts #5 and #6 explain it all. nt antigop Apr 2016 #20
and you can have the last word. I have to go to work. I don't get paid to post on DU all day. nt antigop Apr 2016 #21
How Hillary Clinton Bought the Loyalty of 33 State Democratic Parties antigop Apr 2016 #6
If Sanders wants support from super delegates he should raise money for the state parties Gothmog Apr 2016 #23
Neither candidate will have enough pledged delegates to clinch the nomination before the Convention CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #7
After the last voting, the following will happen: brooklynite Apr 2016 #8
That could happen CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #9
Still waiting for my hotel assignment, but everything else is arranged. brooklynite Apr 2016 #10
Excellent! (nt) CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #11
We do not elect delegates until State convention in June Gothmog Apr 2016 #13
A significant number of super delegates are committed to Clinton and that will not change Gothmog Apr 2016 #12
"No one cares if Sanders drops out so long has he stops going negative on Clinton," -- WRONG!!!! nt antigop Apr 2016 #14
Really? When has Clinton called for Sanders to drop out? Gothmog Apr 2016 #17
Ha! You can believe that if you want. He needs to stay in and keep the progressive message antigop Apr 2016 #18
It doesn't matter KingFlorez Apr 2016 #22
Thank you for the post DesertRat Apr 2016 #24
I know several of the Texas super delegates and was amused by this article Gothmog Apr 2016 #25
He said they were wrong MFM008 Apr 2016 #26
Having failed to win the support of a majority of Democratic Party voters, his new strategy Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #27
 

IamMab

(1,359 posts)
1. Bernie is openly disrespecting Democratic voters with his super-delegate plan.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:54 AM
Apr 2016

It was wrong when Clinton tried it in 2008, and it's wrong still today.

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
2. Echoing the BS cheerleaders words from early on in the primary season
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:54 AM
Apr 2016

If someone tries to steal the election via Superdelegates, against the will of the voters, it will tear the Democratic Party apart.

antigop

(12,778 posts)
4. "Most superdelegates are current/former officeholders or members of the DNC."
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:58 AM
Apr 2016

"Most superdelegates are current or former officeholders or members of the Democratic National Committee."

Yep. Says it all.

Gothmog

(144,920 posts)
15. Sanders lost the African American, Latino and women vote
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:54 AM
Apr 2016

Are you blaming the TDP for Sanders not appealing to three of the key demographics in Texas? That is as silly as the Sanders campaign dissing the south and Southern voters.

Thank you for the amusement



















Gothmog

(144,920 posts)
19. Women, African American and Latino voters are not voting for Sanders in other states
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:35 PM
Apr 2016

Sanders is behind in popular votes and delegates because he has done poorly with women, African American and Latino votes not just in Texas but in every other state. I am amused that you want to blame Sander's failures with these demographic groups in Texas on the TDP. Why has Sanders failed to win the support of these demographic groups in other states?

antigop

(12,778 posts)
21. and you can have the last word. I have to go to work. I don't get paid to post on DU all day. nt
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:40 PM
Apr 2016

antigop

(12,778 posts)
6. How Hillary Clinton Bought the Loyalty of 33 State Democratic Parties
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:02 AM
Apr 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016152772

Surprise! Surprise! Look what state is one of the 33!

oooh, big surprise there. NOT!

Gothmog

(144,920 posts)
23. If Sanders wants support from super delegates he should raise money for the state parties
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 03:36 PM
Apr 2016

Super delegates get to take into account the fact that Clinton is raising money for the state parties and Sanders is refusing. Sanders is not really a member of the Democratic Party and is refusing to raise money for anyone but his campaign. That selfishness will be taken into account.

BTW, Sanders has signed the same type of joint campaign agreements as Clinton but Sanders is simply refusing to raise money for anyone but his campaign.

Do you really think that super delegates will ignore the fact that Sanders is selfish and does not care about the party? That is so silly and funny that it amuses me.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
7. Neither candidate will have enough pledged delegates to clinch the nomination before the Convention
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:04 AM
Apr 2016

So, we'll all be at the convention together, and we'll see what happens.

Bernie has earned enough delegates to justify staying in. Clinton hasn't earned enough pledged delegates to win it.

Those are facts.

He's not going to drop out. And we're going to keep donating because we want him in all the way to the convention.


brooklynite

(94,352 posts)
8. After the last voting, the following will happen:
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:52 AM
Apr 2016

1) Clinton will have more votes

2) Clinton will have more pledged delegates

3) Clinton will have enough pledged and superdelegates to win the nomination

4) the superdelegates supporting her today will restate their support of her then and the race will be over

5) Clinton will win on the first ballot

Gothmog

(144,920 posts)
13. We do not elect delegates until State convention in June
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:40 AM
Apr 2016

Hotel assignments for state delegations are out. The Texas delegation will be in the Airport Marriott

Gothmog

(144,920 posts)
12. A significant number of super delegates are committed to Clinton and that will not change
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:39 AM
Apr 2016

Ignoring these pledged delegates will not convert them to Sanders delegates

No one cares if Sanders drops out so long has he stops going negative on Clinton, In May of 2008, Clinton knew that she was not being to be the nominee and she stopped attacking Obama. After California, Clinton did not try to hold the party up with a list of demands and supported Obama

Again, Sanders is not going to be the nominee.

antigop

(12,778 posts)
14. "No one cares if Sanders drops out so long has he stops going negative on Clinton," -- WRONG!!!! nt
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:43 AM
Apr 2016

Gothmog

(144,920 posts)
17. Really? When has Clinton called for Sanders to drop out?
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:56 AM
Apr 2016

People do care if Sanders go negative. Sanders hurt himself in New York by going negative on Clinton

antigop

(12,778 posts)
18. Ha! You can believe that if you want. He needs to stay in and keep the progressive message
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:57 AM
Apr 2016

front and center. If that means pointing out how the DLC/Third Way has screwed the country over, so be it.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
22. It doesn't matter
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:41 PM
Apr 2016

Usually no one goes into the convention with the actual required number of delegates. The super delegates vote based on who has the most pledged delegates and that is how a candidate crosses the threshold set forth in the rules.

Gothmog

(144,920 posts)
25. I know several of the Texas super delegates and was amused by this article
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:33 PM
Apr 2016

I would love to watch a bernie bro attempt to convince or browbeat a couple of these super delegates.

MFM008

(19,803 posts)
26. He said they were wrong
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:37 PM
Apr 2016

wrong to have them. So now if he can maybe eek ONE vote its ok..........

Whats the word for that again????????????


Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
27. Having failed to win the support of a majority of Democratic Party voters, his new strategy
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:59 PM
Apr 2016

is to screw the majority of voters and win the nomination without having the votes, the states, the delegates with the superdelegates.

Who on his team came up with the Voters don't matter strategy? How much is he being paid?

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