2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders Unlikely to Flip Many Texas Superdelegates
I know several of the Texas super delegates and I agree with this analysis https://www.texastribune.org/2016/04/21/bernie-sanders-campaign-unlikely-flip-many-texas-s/
If Sanders has a shot at the nomination, some of those hundreds of superdelegates would have to be from Texas. But according to a handful of interviews among the states power brokers on Wednesday, turning on the former U.S. secretary of state will be a hard sell in the Lone Star State.
Most superdelegates are current or former officeholders or members of the Democratic National Committee. The party created the designation in the early 1980s to exert some control over the nomination process.
While Sanders has a few dozen superdelegates backing his campaign, Clinton dominates in support of those Democrats nationally and particularly in Texas.
Im trying to figure out what metric I should look at in making a decision to suddenly flip my support for Bernie Sanders," said state Rep. Rafael Anchia, a superdelegate from Dallas. Hillary Clinton won the district that I represent 70 to 30 percent; she won the state of Texas 65 to 35 percent, roughly; she has won far more states than he has; she has won more pledged delegates than he has."
It's an argument many other superdelegates from Texas and elsewhere echoed.
I have met Rafael at several fundraisers and is a smart person
IamMab
(1,359 posts)It was wrong when Clinton tried it in 2008, and it's wrong still today.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)If someone tries to steal the election via Superdelegates, against the will of the voters, it will tear the Democratic Party apart.
LexVegas
(6,031 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)"Most superdelegates are current or former officeholders or members of the Democratic National Committee."
Yep. Says it all.
antigop
(12,778 posts)Gothmog
(144,920 posts)Are you blaming the TDP for Sanders not appealing to three of the key demographics in Texas? That is as silly as the Sanders campaign dissing the south and Southern voters.
Thank you for the amusement
antigop
(12,778 posts)Gothmog
(144,920 posts)Sanders is behind in popular votes and delegates because he has done poorly with women, African American and Latino votes not just in Texas but in every other state. I am amused that you want to blame Sander's failures with these demographic groups in Texas on the TDP. Why has Sanders failed to win the support of these demographic groups in other states?
antigop
(12,778 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)Surprise! Surprise! Look what state is one of the 33!
oooh, big surprise there. NOT!
Gothmog
(144,920 posts)Super delegates get to take into account the fact that Clinton is raising money for the state parties and Sanders is refusing. Sanders is not really a member of the Democratic Party and is refusing to raise money for anyone but his campaign. That selfishness will be taken into account.
BTW, Sanders has signed the same type of joint campaign agreements as Clinton but Sanders is simply refusing to raise money for anyone but his campaign.
Do you really think that super delegates will ignore the fact that Sanders is selfish and does not care about the party? That is so silly and funny that it amuses me.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)So, we'll all be at the convention together, and we'll see what happens.
Bernie has earned enough delegates to justify staying in. Clinton hasn't earned enough pledged delegates to win it.
Those are facts.
He's not going to drop out. And we're going to keep donating because we want him in all the way to the convention.
brooklynite
(94,352 posts)1) Clinton will have more votes
2) Clinton will have more pledged delegates
3) Clinton will have enough pledged and superdelegates to win the nomination
4) the superdelegates supporting her today will restate their support of her then and the race will be over
5) Clinton will win on the first ballot
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)I guess we'll see.
We'll see you in Philly!
brooklynite
(94,352 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Gothmog
(144,920 posts)Hotel assignments for state delegations are out. The Texas delegation will be in the Airport Marriott
Gothmog
(144,920 posts)Ignoring these pledged delegates will not convert them to Sanders delegates
No one cares if Sanders drops out so long has he stops going negative on Clinton, In May of 2008, Clinton knew that she was not being to be the nominee and she stopped attacking Obama. After California, Clinton did not try to hold the party up with a list of demands and supported Obama
Again, Sanders is not going to be the nominee.
antigop
(12,778 posts)Gothmog
(144,920 posts)People do care if Sanders go negative. Sanders hurt himself in New York by going negative on Clinton
antigop
(12,778 posts)front and center. If that means pointing out how the DLC/Third Way has screwed the country over, so be it.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Usually no one goes into the convention with the actual required number of delegates. The super delegates vote based on who has the most pledged delegates and that is how a candidate crosses the threshold set forth in the rules.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Gothmog
(144,920 posts)I would love to watch a bernie bro attempt to convince or browbeat a couple of these super delegates.
MFM008
(19,803 posts)wrong to have them. So now if he can maybe eek ONE vote its ok..........
Whats the word for that again????????????
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)is to screw the majority of voters and win the nomination without having the votes, the states, the delegates with the superdelegates.
Who on his team came up with the Voters don't matter strategy? How much is he being paid?