2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWould Releasing Hillary's TRANSCRIPTS Damage, Prevent Or Improve Her Nomination?
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If Hillary released her Goldman Sachs speech TRANSCRIPTS, would the contents of her speech damage, prevent or improve her current nomination status?
- Improves or remains the same
- Damages credibility/trust but survives
- Obstructs/hinders nomination. Delegates shift
- Suspends campaign
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3 (17%) |
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Obstructs/hinders nomination. Delegates shift | |
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XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)It's incredible what a bomb has been placed under this campaign. Pretending that it's not all getting out soon as the nomination is locked up. These banks may be pro-Clinton but plenty of Republicans work at all of them. Heidi Cruz is a Goldman Sachs executive, by the way.
Segami
(14,923 posts)the super delegates will collectively assess how substantial her candidacy damage is, and with that assessment, they will shift their support over to Sanders and remove Hillary from the nomination equation.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)No doubt dozens of people have had access to the transcripts - many speeches were delivered to various bankster and corporate audiences. Some of those people will be among those who want to bring her down and elect a Republican. They will wait until after the nomination is final and then release the transcripts.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)radical noodle
(8,016 posts)What it would do is give Republicans something to pick apart, take out of context and use in the general election. I think there's little chance that she said anything in a speech that would be particularly controversial but we know the GOP will take a word here and there until they make their own narrative. Democratic voters have already decided and that won't change.
hellofromreddit
(1,182 posts)A campaign worth a damn would kill this issue by dumping out the transcripts instead of letting it fester, so it's reasonable to assume they think they can't. Two possibilities: (a) the speeches contain some incendiary comment like Romney's 47% gaffe, or (b) they're completely bland throwaway speeches that make it apparent the speech "fees" were just payouts.
I strongly suspect (b). And if that's the case, they could have just dumped the speeches on day one, taken a little heat, and it would be as forgotten as the push polling in Nevada by now. But the curiosity has heaped up and made a monster of it.
More lousy campaigning. This will be an issue as long as she is running.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)for caving on the point isn't a problem at all. Indeed I think if she could look more like a Clinton decision isn't as stuck in place as a Custer decision it would help her look human and reasonable.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Have you seen her smirk when someone asks about them?
She is using them to chum. (Attract attention.)
The real corruption lies in the Foundation's money laundering and in the server.
Let's focus our attention THERE.
And if you need a tutorial on the server, go to our work group here on DU that has been compiling a timeline and information.
Segami
(14,923 posts)back in 2014, her attitude was boldly different (as a lot of newspaper headers indicate) and Hillary was charging up the Goldman Sachs crowd with a lot of 'Obama/Warren' red-meat criticisms on economic and foreign policy issues.
If Hillary loses even a small % of her current AA support, her goose will be cooked. If the transcripts show a lot of Obama bashing, AA support will dissolve overnight and the nomination will be lost.
jmo.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Surely no one's that naive...
Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)Some one out there does indeed have them.
Segami
(14,923 posts)..then why didn't she offer to show the superdelgates in a private viewing, the contents of her transcripts?
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)and with that, they determine what could possibly be her reasoning or motives for not releasing the transcripts......