2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPlease predict Bernie Sanders' victory margin in NY now that he met The Pope
Let's predict the percentage by which Bernie Sanders will defeat Hillary Clinton on the Catholic-heavy state of NY.
I'm going with 52-48% or 53-47%.
brooklynite
(95,440 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Congruente
(41 posts)I understand the implications of the meeting.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Congruente
(41 posts)?
agracie
(950 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)against a system that's perfectly wealt....I mean 'happy' with the status quo. I just fear for the future if we fail.
Congruente
(41 posts)I don't understand why the shyness about predicting an outcome.
It's almost as if you think your guy is gonna lose!
daleanime
(17,796 posts)And then phone banking this afternoon. There's a future we'd like to build out there. Why not join us?
Congruente
(41 posts)Okay.
djean111
(14,255 posts)So, not playing. Whatever happens, happens. Simple as that!
mythology
(9,527 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,573 posts)outcome. Sanders is trailing Clinton by an average 13.8 points in NY.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ny/new_york_democratic_presidential_primary-4221.html
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)A Kim Davis stunt won't move a significant number of votes here.
Congruente
(41 posts)In light of the fact that her opponent just met one of the most important people in the world highly admired by Catholics.
Zynx
(21,328 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)She might want to start thinking about the General and how people will perceive her actions now.
She's not exactly creating a warm fuzzy with anyone who's not already a strong supporter. Independents don't like her and her unfavorables are over 50%.
livetohike
(22,213 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Bernie will lose by double digits, all pope pandering aside.
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MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)brush
(54,423 posts)are pretty savvy. They won't fall for the Pope pandering, especially the many more millions of dems who aren't Catholic.
Remember, Hillary was a twice elected US Senator in New York and bought home millions after the 9/11 attacks.
She'll win easily.
The Old Lie
(123 posts)It'll be 77-23.
Funtatlaguy
(10,944 posts)But, an awful lot of ground to make up....
I'd just love to not see it not called early in the night...and be close to the end.
As for Catholic voting, how weird would it be for Bernie to win the Cathoic vote but lose the Jewish vote.
It really doesn't seem like it is identity politics with This election, it is more philosophy.
Small change vs Big (huge) change.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)katsy
(4,246 posts)in NY. The conference wasn't organized or scheduled around our primary election. That's crazy.
I support SBS and think HRC wins NY.
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)Response to Congruente (Original post)
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Gomez163
(2,039 posts)Response to Gomez163 (Reply #28)
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Gomez163
(2,039 posts)LiberalFighter
(52,044 posts)Gomez163
(2,039 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)RandySF
(61,149 posts)HassleCat
(6,409 posts)Pandering is generally an effective campaign tactic, and meeting with a religious leader is usually pandering to members of that religion. Sanders, of course, doesn't care whether or not it gains him any votes. This is impossible for mainstream members of our party to accept because they have not seen a candidate pass up a pander op for many, many years.
rock
(13,218 posts)So let's say Hillary by 16%. ("I met the Pope! Vote for me!" Ha ha! Almost as funny as, "I can't beat Hillary, but I can beat Trump! Vote for me!"