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Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:36 PM

What specifically would Hillary do to address rising poverty and income inequality?

This so completely unacceptable. Especially since there has been a significant increase since 2006. Are some of us saying this is okay because it's not us? We cannot continue to starve children and look on while people die from a lack of healthcare and say this country is great. The only thing this country has been great at is protecting the wealthy and well connected at all cost. If you're going to say this is a Christian nation how the hell do you square this in your own mind?

http://stateofworkingamerica.org/fact-sheets/poverty/

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Reply What specifically would Hillary do to address rising poverty and income inequality? (Original post)
onecaliberal Apr 2016 OP
SamKnause Apr 2016 #1
djean111 Apr 2016 #2
SamKnause Apr 2016 #5
djean111 Apr 2016 #16
FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #26
SamKnause Apr 2016 #28
cantbeserious Apr 2016 #3
Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #4
DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #6
onecaliberal Apr 2016 #7
BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #8
riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #9
Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #10
Voice for Peace Apr 2016 #31
Scuba Apr 2016 #11
Yurovsky Apr 2016 #12
azmom Apr 2016 #13
onecaliberal Apr 2016 #14
SamKnause Apr 2016 #18
onecaliberal Apr 2016 #23
Voice for Peace Apr 2016 #32
onecaliberal Apr 2016 #33
AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #15
Bettie Apr 2016 #17
SamKnause Apr 2016 #19
uponit7771 Apr 2016 #20
Armstead Apr 2016 #22
lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #21
onecaliberal Apr 2016 #24
tralala Apr 2016 #25
pdsimdars Apr 2016 #27
onecaliberal Apr 2016 #30
JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #29

Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:40 PM

1. Nothing.

Hillary has 3 concerns;

Her family

The family foundation

Wall Street

Hillary's interests are money and power.

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Response to SamKnause (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:43 PM

2. You forgot American Imperialism. n/t

 

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Response to djean111 (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:47 PM

5. That comes under the foundation and Wall Street.

Wall Street and the Clinton Foundation profits from war.

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Response to SamKnause (Reply #5)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:21 PM

16. Ah. Okay, I agree!

 

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Response to SamKnause (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:42 PM

26. Don't forget Hillary will over see the cutting of Social Security benefits

 

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Response to FreakinDJ (Reply #26)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:04 PM

28. That is covered under Clinton Foundation and

Wall Street. They will both profit from cutting, or privatizing SS benefits.

Anything that is bad for the 99% is ripe for the looting.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:47 PM

3. Not One Damned Thing - HRC Serves The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks - The 1% - Not The 99%

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:47 PM

4. raise the ss retirement age?

 

means test medicare?

once again go along with an extension of the bush tax cuts for her class?

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:49 PM

6. If the poor would only invest, they could enjoy tax cuts on their capital gains.

 

People are going to need to pull themselves up by their own investment-and-wealth-creation straps.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:51 PM

7. How long do they think we are going to idly stand by and allow it?

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:52 PM

8. Bill Clinton's Welfare Reform Bill helped push millions into poverty

And it increased income inequality.

I watched a great interview David Simon, creator of the series The Wire, did with Bill Moyers on YouTube recently. Simon referred to the poor in this country as the excess people that our economy doesn't need under capitalism. He said that our society has been OK with doing as little as possible for them as long as they stay among themselves and the crime stays in their communities.

It is a national disgrace and Bernie is the only Presidential candidate who is talking about it in a meaningful way.

Here is the interview of David Simon broken into 2 parts if anybody is interested. It talks about how connected many issues are to poverty in the U.S. Industries moving overseas, the drug wars and mass incarceration, corruption in government, the decay of our inner city school systems, and the waves of job cuts at our major newspapers are among them.



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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:54 PM

9. Well she'd raise the minimum wage to a NOT living wage of $12/hour...

 

She'd get us more heavily involved in wars thus enriching more poverty-stricken families by giving them the "opportunity " to fight those wars.

She's going to help families make that hard decision to move from their beloved coastal homes devastated by increasingly catastrophic climate change. As Barbara Bush said, this will "work very well for them!"

She'll let them enjoy their work a lot longer by raising the retirement age.

Women won't have to worry about making a third trimester abortion decision. Hillary will take that worry away for them.


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Response to riderinthestorm (Reply #9)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:56 PM

10. She apparently flip-flopped on fifteen yesterday.

 

But nothing to stop her from flop-flipping back.

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Response to riderinthestorm (Reply #9)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:21 PM

31. See? There ya go!

 

Lots of good stuff...er... uh..

🐦
voting for Bernie, who aspires to compassion

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:59 PM

11. Raise elegibility age for Social Security, then means test it to further the divide-and-conquer ...

 

... strategy to plunder, er, privatize it.

Then she'd further de-regulate the banks, and payday loan companies as well (thanks to Debt Trap Debbie). She's a woman who gets stuff done, so she'd probably shut down the Consumer Financial Protection Agency.

She'll "fix" the ACA by changing the law to refelct what her donors at Big Insurance want. Rejecting people for pre-existing conditions would be once again legal. If people complained, she'd tell them to "cut it out."









She also has a jobs program in mind for young people. It's called "enlistment." There'll be lots and lots of these jobs.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:06 PM

12. She will continue accept millions from bazillionaires...

and since she's only a millionaire (x a couple hundred), it technically making the super-rich slightly less rich, while preventing her & Bill from suffering through life "flat broke"...

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:10 PM

13. She'll start more wars so the poor kids can

enlist in the military.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:12 PM

14. How do supposed dems who have railed against everything she stands for suddenly support all of this?

It really boggles the mind. I go to bookmarks from some folks a couple years back and it's like an entire different poster.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #14)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:36 PM

18. So it is not just me.

I don't get it.

I have tried to understand it, but I don't get it.

The only logical conclusion that I can come up with

is they agree with her policies and outlook for the country.

They like war.

They like getting ripped off.

They think it is fine that some Fortune 500 companies pay no

taxes and get subsidies.

Subsidies, paid for with our tax dollars.

They like that this country is being sucked dry by global

corporations and Wall Street.

They admire war profiteers.

She has changed positions so many times on so many issues.

She has proven she has poor judgment.

I just don't get it.



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Response to SamKnause (Reply #18)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:32 PM

23. Definitely not just you. It's unbelievable! All republican policy.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #23)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 06:07 PM

32. I have one theory, probably applies to some:

 

A friend from long ago (male, expat , 65) now strong suppoter of Hillary, & highly defensive of her.

Sees the criticism as all originating w Republicans, fully believes the whole strong survivor women's champion brilliant accomplished innocent victim, & so on. There seems to be nowhere in his mind or brain where he can fit a question re her not-so-great qualities.

He likes Bernie ok, but not his "bots" and sees hillary & her peeps as the only ones with "class.".

I think he may be nearly hard-wired for Hillary specifically & only because of his early life. Kid of a diplomat, grew up in that world, lived in a bunch of different lands. Hillary, and that schmoozy world of the Wealthy & Important, is what's most familiar-- ergo, safe -- to him.
It's the only way it makes any sense, that he should be so thick & deluded. But our earliest life experiences esp if safe and good affect us forever.

And the stuff we question least is our beliefs from a time when we were too young to have an independent clue about the world. Most people have not a single original thoyght or belief. Everything has been downnloaded and is rarely questiioned.
I don't know if Hillary supporters are able to digest the dissonant realities of their candidate. I too have been baffled, and am always trying to figure it out. My theory, luckily,,is based on ONLY ONE PERSON I KNOW suppirting Hillary. So there's that.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #32)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 08:34 PM

33. He thinks the attacks originate from republicans, that's rich when her whole platform

Is interchangeable with the republican platform.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:16 PM

15. Tax cuts for the rich and more fracking

 

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:25 PM

17. And not a single one of her

very vocal supporters saying that she would do anything about this.

Their only point seems to be that human people no longer matter because she's "winning".

Well, her win is a loss for those of us who aren't...what was that? Oh yeah, "the haves and the have mores".

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Response to Bettie (Reply #17)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:38 PM

19. Fucking A !!!!!



It's a big club, and we ain't in it.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:47 PM

20. Not be full of shit and demonize "big banks" without a practical plan to break them up? tia

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #20)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:07 PM

22. "Not to be full of shit" is not a policy. And NOT WANTING to break up big banks is not helpful.

 

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:05 PM

21. As president? or as boardmember of WalMart? Or as a $500,000/hour speaker to Goldman Sachs?

 

Or as a cheerleader for "ending welfare as we know it"? Or as a member of the fellowship? Or as adopted daughter of the Bush family? As a "young protestor" campaigning for Goldwater?

Hillary supporters belief in her depends on her disavowal and rejection of every major part of her life prior to that point.

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Response to lumberjack_jeff (Reply #21)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:36 PM

24. Thank you, really good points. My point is, she's going to do nothing because she can't be

Bothered to care that children right here in America are hungry right now, they're dying because they lack healthcare. Their parent/s are not around for them because they are busy killing themselves working 3 jobs. How in the fuck can you say you're a democrat and vote for her?!?

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:39 PM

25. Hillary probably thinks poverty is the rightful lot

of the extremely-average person, so... why mess with success?

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:53 PM

27. Well, don't you know, it's all about the math, those tax breaks for the 1% are just about to lift

 

everyone else up. Just a few more cuts and we'll all soon be living like Trump!

BELIEVE in incremental change!!!!

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Response to pdsimdars (Reply #27)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:13 PM

30. I would like to tell her what she can do with her incremental change.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:12 PM

29. Chained CPI on Social Security, and raise the retirement age for Social Security.

This will help her to keep poverty rising and increase the income inequality. Her Bankster bosses will be pleased.

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