2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhat specifically would Hillary do to address rising poverty and income inequality?
This so completely unacceptable. Especially since there has been a significant increase since 2006. Are some of us saying this is okay because it's not us? We cannot continue to starve children and look on while people die from a lack of healthcare and say this country is great. The only thing this country has been great at is protecting the wealthy and well connected at all cost. If you're going to say this is a Christian nation how the hell do you square this in your own mind?
http://stateofworkingamerica.org/fact-sheets/poverty/
SamKnause
(13,101 posts)Hillary has 3 concerns;
Her family
The family foundation
Wall Street
Hillary's interests are money and power.
djean111
(14,255 posts)SamKnause
(13,101 posts)Wall Street and the Clinton Foundation profits from war.
djean111
(14,255 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)SamKnause
(13,101 posts)Wall Street. They will both profit from cutting, or privatizing SS benefits.
Anything that is bad for the 99% is ripe for the looting.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)means test medicare?
once again go along with an extension of the bush tax cuts for her class?
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)People are going to need to pull themselves up by their own investment-and-wealth-creation straps.
onecaliberal
(32,852 posts)BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)And it increased income inequality.
I watched a great interview David Simon, creator of the series The Wire, did with Bill Moyers on YouTube recently. Simon referred to the poor in this country as the excess people that our economy doesn't need under capitalism. He said that our society has been OK with doing as little as possible for them as long as they stay among themselves and the crime stays in their communities.
It is a national disgrace and Bernie is the only Presidential candidate who is talking about it in a meaningful way.
Here is the interview of David Simon broken into 2 parts if anybody is interested. It talks about how connected many issues are to poverty in the U.S. Industries moving overseas, the drug wars and mass incarceration, corruption in government, the decay of our inner city school systems, and the waves of job cuts at our major newspapers are among them.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)She'd get us more heavily involved in wars thus enriching more poverty-stricken families by giving them the "opportunity " to fight those wars.
She's going to help families make that hard decision to move from their beloved coastal homes devastated by increasingly catastrophic climate change. As Barbara Bush said, this will "work very well for them!"
She'll let them enjoy their work a lot longer by raising the retirement age.
Women won't have to worry about making a third trimester abortion decision. Hillary will take that worry away for them.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)But nothing to stop her from flop-flipping back.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)Lots of good stuff...er... uh..
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voting for Bernie, who aspires to compassion
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... strategy to plunder, er, privatize it.
Then she'd further de-regulate the banks, and payday loan companies as well (thanks to Debt Trap Debbie). She's a woman who gets stuff done, so she'd probably shut down the Consumer Financial Protection Agency.
She'll "fix" the ACA by changing the law to refelct what her donors at Big Insurance want. Rejecting people for pre-existing conditions would be once again legal. If people complained, she'd tell them to "cut it out."
She also has a jobs program in mind for young people. It's called "enlistment." There'll be lots and lots of these jobs.
Yurovsky
(2,064 posts)and since she's only a millionaire (x a couple hundred), it technically making the super-rich slightly less rich, while preventing her & Bill from suffering through life "flat broke"...
azmom
(5,208 posts)enlist in the military.
onecaliberal
(32,852 posts)It really boggles the mind. I go to bookmarks from some folks a couple years back and it's like an entire different poster.
SamKnause
(13,101 posts)I don't get it.
I have tried to understand it, but I don't get it.
The only logical conclusion that I can come up with
is they agree with her policies and outlook for the country.
They like war.
They like getting ripped off.
They think it is fine that some Fortune 500 companies pay no
taxes and get subsidies.
Subsidies, paid for with our tax dollars.
They like that this country is being sucked dry by global
corporations and Wall Street.
They admire war profiteers.
She has changed positions so many times on so many issues.
She has proven she has poor judgment.
I just don't get it.
onecaliberal
(32,852 posts)Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)A friend from long ago (male, expat , 65) now strong suppoter of Hillary, & highly defensive of her.
Sees the criticism as all originating w Republicans, fully believes the whole strong survivor women's champion brilliant accomplished innocent victim, & so on. There seems to be nowhere in his mind or brain where he can fit a question re her not-so-great qualities.
He likes Bernie ok, but not his "bots" and sees hillary & her peeps as the only ones with "class.".
I think he may be nearly hard-wired for Hillary specifically & only because of his early life. Kid of a diplomat, grew up in that world, lived in a bunch of different lands. Hillary, and that schmoozy world of the Wealthy & Important, is what's most familiar-- ergo, safe -- to him.
It's the only way it makes any sense, that he should be so thick & deluded. But our earliest life experiences esp if safe and good affect us forever.
And the stuff we question least is our beliefs from a time when we were too young to have an independent clue about the world. Most people have not a single original thoyght or belief. Everything has been downnloaded and is rarely questiioned.
I don't know if Hillary supporters are able to digest the dissonant realities of their candidate. I too have been baffled, and am always trying to figure it out. My theory, luckily,,is based on ONLY ONE PERSON I KNOW suppirting Hillary. So there's that.
onecaliberal
(32,852 posts)Is interchangeable with the republican platform.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Bettie
(16,095 posts)very vocal supporters saying that she would do anything about this.
Their only point seems to be that human people no longer matter because she's "winning".
Well, her win is a loss for those of us who aren't...what was that? Oh yeah, "the haves and the have mores".
SamKnause
(13,101 posts)It's a big club, and we ain't in it.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Or as a cheerleader for "ending welfare as we know it"? Or as a member of the fellowship? Or as adopted daughter of the Bush family? As a "young protestor" campaigning for Goldwater?
Hillary supporters belief in her depends on her disavowal and rejection of every major part of her life prior to that point.
onecaliberal
(32,852 posts)Bothered to care that children right here in America are hungry right now, they're dying because they lack healthcare. Their parent/s are not around for them because they are busy killing themselves working 3 jobs. How in the fuck can you say you're a democrat and vote for her?!?
tralala
(239 posts)of the extremely-average person, so... why mess with success?
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)everyone else up. Just a few more cuts and we'll all soon be living like Trump!
BELIEVE in incremental change!!!!
onecaliberal
(32,852 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,339 posts)This will help her to keep poverty rising and increase the income inequality. Her Bankster bosses will be pleased.