If Hillary is aspiring to be president she must not be frightened of 'tone'

[Rosa Luxemburg]

Presidents are supposed to be tough and deal with the world's leaders - some of them have 'tone and are really nasty. She will have to prove to us that she can deal with these ogres. Why would she complain about a debate with her gentlemanly opponent Senator Sanders.

[TDale313]

1. And frightened of *Bernie's* tone?

[insta8er]

2. I don't like his tone.

[fun n serious]

3. She is the toughest they come.

I think you know that. It's not about that. It's about the way it was DEMANDED and at this point we do not know his intentions.

[insta8er]

6. They send a letter, and we know what he wants...a debate about the issues.

[fun n serious]

10. No, I don't know.

I don't know what he is seeking.. exposure in NY at her expense? Destruction of DNC? I don't know. We need to back away from him. WE meaning Clinton, supporters and Campaign. Stay away. We have no idea what his intentions are.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

14. Isn't it usual to have debates along the way in the campaign?

I would have thought a debate in NY would be OK. I don't know why she doesn't want to?

[insta8er]

17. Ah yes, as President your candidate will take the same strategy. I hope for her sake

That you will not be her adviser.

[insta8er]

19. Here is the letter that was send, I know you could not be bothered by

Looking it up yourself, so I did it for you. Now you know what was asked for.

https://berniesanders.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/nydebate.pdf

[ljm2002]

20. Oh for crying out loud...

...his intention is to have a debate, preferably in New York.

How fucking hard is that to figure out? The letter they wrote was pretty damned clear.

Now you may not agree they should debate in New York, but she did agree to a debate in April, and it would certainly be more respectful to the voters -- more democratic in fact -- to hold the promised debate before the New York primary rather than after.

At the moment her campaign seems to be floating trial balloons to see if they can get away with reneging on their agreement.

[fun n serious]

25. He broke his promises. gloves are off, NO negotiation nt

[JimDandy]

27. What are you going on about? What promises?

[Gwhittey]

35. Hillary told her zombies

That Sanders is running a negative campaign so that is now the reason she will not debate. That poster is just parroting it because he can not think for himself and figure out that discussing voting and actions of a person in office is not a negative. But with Hillary talking about her actions in office are negative because they are crappy and hurt people all over the world.

[JimDandy]

37. Ahh. Thanks.

[fun n serious]

45. I see the negative campaign nt

[riderinthestorm]

40. Can you provide a link to these "promises"? TIA nt

[morningfog]

46. Playing the trump card, lol.

What is it with the rich New Yorkers who think they can just renege on debates?

[Politicalboi]

30. Chicken comes to mind

He's seeking another chance so voters can make a choice. If his intentions are to shed some light on Hillary's Wall Street speeches and being part of pay to play, then that's a good thing. The more truth, the more it hurts Hillary. She scared of Bernie and the truth.

[2banon]

39. This!^^^^^^10000! n/t

[malokvale77]

24. Oh my goodness...

you must be joking.

Corrupt does not mean tough.

Bernie's intentions have been clear his whole life.

Your intentions, however, could not be more obvious.

[redstateblues]

28. The corrupt smear is just that

Still waiting for proof of quid pro quo. Envy is an ugly emotion.

[malokvale77]

34. It's documented.

I in no way envy corruption.

[Onlooker]

4. Yes, women frighten easily n/t

[delrem]

23. The OP said nothing "sexist".

Everyone knows that women can be every bit as sadistic as men, or as pleasant as men.
We all know that qualities like that are universal.

So, you're stretching it to imply any kind of sexist interpretation.

[DemocracyDirect]

5. She doesn't like Bernie's winning tone.

[redstateblues]

26. You misspelled "whining"

[desmiller]

54. ^^^^Amen

[nichomachus]

7. Don't think for a minute

That Russian and Chinese psy-ops people aren't taking copious notes on how to rattle her.

[Nonhlanhla]

8. She is not frightened.

This is silly.

[RoccoR5955]

9. Of course she is frightened.

Frightened that she is going to lose!

[Nonhlanhla]

11. That is very unlikely

given the fact that she is pretty far ahead in delegates, votes, and in the polls.

But apart from that, even if she feared that she would lose, why would refusing to debate help her? She's pretty good at debating.

If anything, her stance here is based on the fact that she is the prohibitive frontrunner and most likely nominee, and that she refuses to give free air time to her losing rival, at least as long as he does not stop running a negative campaign against her.

[seabeyond]

12. Oh, the political game of defining the opponent.

[dubyadiprecession]

13. Hillary doesn't have to prove to us that she can deal with these..

ogres. Some of us have been around her for decades seeing her battle the nastiest, meanspirited republicans around.

[cherokeeprogressive]

31. Were any of those nasty, meanspirited republicans pulling fingernails as KGB Officers for 16 years?

You liken Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, Rand Paul, David Vitter, and Lindsey Graham to a KGB Officer who used to pull people's fingernails out with pliers?

Um, you're kidding, right?

"Putin acknowledges that the KGB evaluated him as a man with stunted emotions. His instructors concluded he was at risk, not of succumbing to the temptations of women or drink, but because of his pervasive “lowered sense of danger”. He was also classified as a man unhelpfully unsocial. To this day, he still only grudgingly half admits the agency’s character assessment. “I don’t think that I had a lowered sense of danger, but the psychologists came to this conclusion having followed my behaviour for a long time,” he told journalists back in 2000. This, I fear, is what makes him so ruthless."

This man has no fear. Does not know it. Is so immune to it that Russian psychologists thought it put him at risk. Well, he's no longer at risk; he's in power.

http://www.newstatesman.com/2015/10/ruthlessness-vladimir-putin-0

[ibegurpard]

42. oh was their "tone" better than Bernie?

[IdaBriggs]

64. Tell me one time SHE won - on ANYTHING.

Give ONE example, please.

You have nearly 25 years of public service - WHEN did she EVER "win" in a fight against the Republicans about ANYTHING?

[Arkansas Granny]

15. Hillary is not frightened. That woman is as tough as nails. For the record, she has already

dealt with world leaders.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

16. so what's all this about tone then?

[redstateblues]

32. Bernie went back on his word

He said he wouldn't go negative. He lied

[cherokeeprogressive]

36. Putin will likely look into her eyes while shaking her hand and lie. And squeeze til it hurts.

I bet he still laughs about "перегрузка" while he's having a Stoly.

[TDale313]

38. Oh ffs!!!

You seriously think Bernie's gone negative?!? He's treated her with kid gloves from the start. Pointing out her record and that she is too cozy with Wall Street is not going negative. Her campaign's red baiting, otoh...

[2banon]

43. When? Where?

that's the head scratching buga boo here, links?

[riderinthestorm]

44. Telling the truth is not "going back on his word". nt

[Rosa Luxemburg]

49. you mean she doesn't like criticism of her policies

he has never been disrespectful to her

[slipslidingaway]

56. When, where vs Clinton and why is she so scared to debate in NY?

[sadoldgirl]

18. I think that she is buying time while making

Bernie out to be a bully.

The best response to that could be:

"Madame Secretary will you refuse to talk
to Assad or Putin until they become really
nice and sweet to you?"

No, this makes her look very weak after all,
as well as a person, who cannot be trusted.

[timmymoff]

21. This reminds me of when mccain called to

suspend the campaigns while dealing with the economic collapse. Obama said basically, " No we will sometimes have to deal with two issues at once being president." Hillary seems weak having her campaign call for a change of tone. If she had any courage she would ask them to "cut it out" like she did when she saved us all from economic collapse with her great leadership.

[cui bono]

22. And she's gotta stop playing victim, especially when she plays the gender card.

As a woman I find it deeply disturbing that a woman of her privilege and standing would act so weak so often. And really, for no reason. She's not weak, so why does she play victim so much? It's not like a lot of people have compassion for her, so it doesn't play well.

.

[Firebrand Gary]

29. This entire thread is why tone is an issue.

It's about party unity. As long as surrogate's continue their unhealthy tone, this party will have difficulty unifying.

[BuelahWitch]

33. I hope she sends her "supporters" free supplies of dramamine

All the fucking spinning they have to do would cause great amounts of motion sickness in normal individuals...

[ibegurpard]

41. a certain sparkle in Susan Sarandon's eyes is quite threatening as well...

[Autumn Colors]

47. I keep getting this visual

of Hillary with one hand on her hip and the other shaking a finger .... "I don't like your TONE, young man!"

[ibegurpard]

48. no gesturing fingers!

that's very threatening!

[MFM008]

50. Why?

Shes ahead, she may win the states that are left except for 2, there's been plenty of debates, frankly im sick of debates. The next debate I want to see is between HRC and Tramp. HE needs debates, not her.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

53. She is frightened of debates

[TDale313]

57. Because she agreed to it. She gave her word.

Bernie agreed to a debate before NH-when the Clinton campaign needed/wanted it. On the condition that they agree to 3 more- one each in March, April, and May.

If she tries to weasel out cause it no longer seems to be in her best interest it shows her word means nothing. It reinforces many of the negative impressions people have about her and her lack of trustworthiness. She has more to lose by not debating than by sucking it up and honoring her commitments.

[Sheepshank]

51. Being Presidential also doesn't mean indulging petulant demands....

......of someone who has pulled the short straw.

[Aerows]

52. Frankly, instead of worrying about tone

she needs to worry about tune, since her tune changes every time the sun rises.

[Kalidurga]

55. I can't wait til she tells the Republicans she won't debate

until they change their tone.

[ThePhilosopher04]

58. She doesn't have the muscle or chops to be President. She's a lightweight, among other things.

[SheilaT]

59. And her supporters actually think she'll do well against Trump in debates.

I sincerely doubt it.

[BreakfastClub]

61. So is this the thing where people claim a woman is too aggressive, but then others

say she is too timid and everyone winds up agreeing that she can't win no matter what she does? Sure sounds that way. Have no fear: Hillary Clinton is a bad-ass, and she will stand up for America and American interests. Hillary never backed down as SoS. Bernie is completely unproven in that regard.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

62. then

why is she so worried about Bernie's tone? this really isn't working for her.

[PonyUp]

63. How can Hillary be afraid of Bernie's tone, when she's so tone-deaf to everything else? n/t