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Hillary events since Tuesday, where is she ... (Original Post) slipslidingaway Mar 2016 OP
This makes no difference to me MFM008 Mar 2016 #1
Who has Hillary been meeting with this week?Who you spend time with tells something about priorities slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #4
Fundraisers. Her corporate masters beckon... JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #2
Meeting with the people she will represent ... slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #11
She is raising money for Democrats. nt DURHAM D Mar 2016 #3
And for the last two plus decades the Democrats have lost control, why? Policies have gone astray .. slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #8
Okay then DURHAM D Mar 2016 #10
She's meeting with Liz, planning when to make the big announcement... LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #5
Doubt it. nt slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #12
How do you know? Do YOU know where she is? Who IS she talking to? LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #23
I have no idea, do you? nt slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #25
she will be at Geoge Clooneys' house in Studio City, CA, this Thurs, for very expensivie fundraiser amborin Mar 2016 #6
Heard she will be in Seattle on Tuesday, hopefully not near a voting place as that will slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #14
Our WA caucuses are on Sat, Mar 26th. n/t JimDandy Mar 2016 #28
Great, losing track our primary is not til June :( nt slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #33
You're probably thinking of AZ's primary which IS this Tuesday. JimDandy Mar 2016 #34
Need to move to another state, our system just sucks ... slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #35
She won't be near a voting place, but... white_wolf Mar 2016 #29
LOL, his presence at voting sites is just another example of ... slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #36
working Disney money spigots reddread Mar 2016 #45
funny thing about people who've been rich for so long--they're TERRIBLE with expenses MisterP Mar 2016 #7
There is an entirely different mindset among the rich, they can take chances because they have ... slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #17
I real feel sorry for Hillary supporters kcjohn1 Mar 2016 #9
why feel sorry for us? We're winning......n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #13
Precisely because you think you are winning kcjohn1 Mar 2016 #16
So under a President Sanders, I'll start winning, but not under a President Clinton? n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #43
The middle class is not winning, which class do you represent ... slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #19
The ingrained labels are not a benefit to the majority of people ... slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #18
It will only Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #21
Exactly, it should not take so long for people to wake up to the pawns we are for rich ... slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #24
Most of them never had those beliefs in the first place Fumesucker Mar 2016 #39
You generally have an inkling that some might not be as committed to the rights of all ... slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #40
Sheldon Adelman, T. Boone Pickens , Koch Bros. etc vs. Hillary in the GE. oasis Mar 2016 #20
You expose them, you do not sink even lower, you do not play their game. I feel sorry for those who slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #22
"You expose them". oasis Mar 2016 #26
Yes it does but that money cannot come from the people you pretend you want to defeat ... slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #30
The donations Obama received from big moneyed interests was well-known BreakfastClub Mar 2016 #41
Gearing up for the GE grossproffit Mar 2016 #15
That was the goal of the estalishment Democrats. nt slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #31
She's heading for the Oval Office RandySF Mar 2016 #27
We could get Trump or Cruz ... slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #32
No mystery....it took me two minutes to find out that today Tanuki Mar 2016 #37
Good then you can easily document the events/rallies she held since Tuesday, the last five days ... slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #38
Maybe it's just none of your business where she is right now. leftofcool Mar 2016 #42
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MFM008

(19,782 posts)
1. This makes no difference to me
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 12:26 AM
Mar 2016

Sanders gets thousands at a rally and loses a state. So count those delegates.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
4. Who has Hillary been meeting with this week?Who you spend time with tells something about priorities
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 12:30 AM
Mar 2016

where has she been and who has she been meeting with?

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
11. Meeting with the people she will represent ...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 12:48 AM
Mar 2016

I would never want to be that beholding to some corporation and try to maintain a façade that I cared for kids who are hungry or are victims of regime change.

I could never sleep

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
8. And for the last two plus decades the Democrats have lost control, why? Policies have gone astray ..
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 12:40 AM
Mar 2016

from the needs of the majority of people? The middle class has been shrinking after the short lived boom of Bill in the 90's while hundreds of millions were borrowed from the SS Trust fund to present a false narrative that the budget was balancing.

So is she raising money for the wealthy corporate Dems while the middle class continues to shrink? You think that is a good thing?

A letter means nothing to me, results are what matters, the middle class has continued to shrink under a "D"







slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
14. Heard she will be in Seattle on Tuesday, hopefully not near a voting place as that will
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 12:54 AM
Mar 2016

cause delays.

I read she has been just doing fund raisers since Tuesday, no time for the little people

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
34. You're probably thinking of AZ's primary which IS this Tuesday.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 02:37 AM
Mar 2016

Hang in there...your vote will be worth it in June!

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
35. Need to move to another state, our system just sucks ...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 02:45 AM
Mar 2016

we hardly ever to get to vote in primaries (when it matters) candidates never visit. Other countries just laugh at us as our process lasts years, compared to months, and is so inequitable.

Hoping!





white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
29. She won't be near a voting place, but...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 02:00 AM
Mar 2016

Bill will, but don't worry we've been assured his presence isn't breaking any rules...Also, I have a nice piece of beach side property in Arizona.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
36. LOL, his presence at voting sites is just another example of ...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 02:55 AM
Mar 2016

FU, I can do what I want. Not passing out campaign literature

I am waiting for Hillary to mimic the current season of House of Cards where Bill is the VP, that is way too bold though

Underwoods/Clinton




 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
45. working Disney money spigots
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 09:14 AM
Mar 2016

media consolidation is in good hands there.
consumers?
maybe a finger for them.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
17. There is an entirely different mindset among the rich, they can take chances because they have ...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 01:01 AM
Mar 2016

something to fall back on. Now that can be a wonderful thing, it allows a person to venture out, experiment and fail, experiment again... until they get it right, or somewhat right.

Most of us do not have the luxury of 'getting it wrong' even once, never mind time and time again.

kcjohn1

(751 posts)
9. I real feel sorry for Hillary supporters
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 12:41 AM
Mar 2016

I'm assuming most have truely progressive positions and would have said a year ago that Bernie is a champion of their views.

Now here they are defending Hillary fund raising from corporate America. I was huge Obama supporter and I gotta be honest that I overlooked the fact he raised more money from big money interests than Clinton. I gotta say they ignorance is one thing, I don't think I would be defending or worse condoning this behavior.

I respect much more those that know what is up and are not being taking for ride that Clinton will do what her donors what them to do. Maybe some of the benefits will trickle down to us common folk.

kcjohn1

(751 posts)
16. Precisely because you think you are winning
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 12:57 AM
Mar 2016

Unless you are part of Hillary's donor class, you are winning nothing.

This reminds of sports fans who consider themselves part of the "team" and use terminology like "we". Not the best comparison because these fans are not deluded enough to think they are getting anything beyond entertainment for few hours.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
19. The middle class is not winning, which class do you represent ...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 01:18 AM
Mar 2016

you do realize the implications of country without a thriving MC.

The Dems are not winning, we have given up so many seats in the US Congress and control in many states. That is not winning IMHO.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
18. The ingrained labels are not a benefit to the majority of people ...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 01:12 AM
Mar 2016

funny to watch people here on DU abandon their beliefs so suddenly to align with a party that leans more towards the Repubs while trying to maintain a semblance of the old Democratic values.

Nothing will trickle down





slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
24. Exactly, it should not take so long for people to wake up to the pawns we are for rich ...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 01:51 AM
Mar 2016

I know people go through phases of hope and then maybe a form of disillusionment, but we get back up and fight.

It is a very long process.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
39. Most of them never had those beliefs in the first place
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 04:13 AM
Mar 2016

To a big extent I find myself in conflict here over Hillary with the same people I've been in conflict here with for a decade or more over a wide variety of issues.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
40. You generally have an inkling that some might not be as committed to the rights of all ...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 04:32 AM
Mar 2016

people and will be swayed by a label over a core principle, it all comes into focus when you need to choose a side.

I must say that I am very pleased to see so many long time DU members come out on the right side to support real change, we are drawing lines that were once blurred.





oasis

(49,152 posts)
20. Sheldon Adelman, T. Boone Pickens , Koch Bros. etc vs. Hillary in the GE.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 01:21 AM
Mar 2016

You can feel sorry for whoever, I fell sorry for candidates who think they can stop tanks with pea shooters.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
22. You expose them, you do not sink even lower, you do not play their game. I feel sorry for those who
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 01:43 AM
Mar 2016

think the only solution is to sink even lower while they control the strings.

Can we just think outside the box for a few minutes? That is what that Sanders campaign is about, it is for those people who are tired of sinking lower and lower all while we watch the middle class in our country be destroyed. What happens to our country without a flourishing MC, probably not anything good.

Not to mention displacing/killing/maiming millions of people throughout the world and then we are surprised when THEY, how dare they, fight against our interference in their elections when we only want to bring 'our version of democracy' to their country. We need to stop meddling where we do not belong.









slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
30. Yes it does but that money cannot come from the people you pretend you want to defeat ...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 02:08 AM
Mar 2016

so I will disagree, you seem to imply that we need to go back to square one and support the establishment candidate.

Tons of money can be raised from people, not corporations, you just need the backbone to step outside of the comfort zone.



BreakfastClub

(765 posts)
41. The donations Obama received from big moneyed interests was well-known
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 04:43 AM
Mar 2016

in '08 and was brought up repeatedly throughout the primary and the GE. If you didn't know it, it wasn't because you weren't exposed to it or couldn't find the information. It was everywhere. Ignorance is sometimes willful. I feel sorry for people who can't face the truth and make excuses by claiming ignorance.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
32. We could get Trump or Cruz ...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 02:22 AM
Mar 2016

we know too many people who do not trust her and would never vote for her, mix of Repubs and independents, but they would vote for Sanders.

I have said this since the summer when the DNC limited debates, this is our election to lose, so while the party backs an establishment candidate they also have not realized the discontent of many citizens in our country. In the GE we need independents and crossover Repubs who voted for Obama. They will not vote for Clinton.

We'll see, it is a big gamble.





Tanuki

(14,893 posts)
37. No mystery....it took me two minutes to find out that today
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 03:12 AM
Mar 2016

she will be speaking at a GOTV event at Carl Hayden High School in Phoenix and at a CNN "Final Five" candidates forum. Tomorrow she will be speaking at two different "Get out the caucus" events, one in Seattle and the other in Everett, WA. This is at least the third time overvthe past few weeks I have responded to this type of thread, which seem designed to do nothing but gin up baseless trashing of the "I don't happen to know where she is so she must be busy servicing her corporate overlords" variety.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
38. Good then you can easily document the events/rallies she held since Tuesday, the last five days ...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 03:29 AM
Mar 2016

I did not see her holding any events with the 99% in the past 5 days, please elaborate. Even Maddow said she was attending fund raising events.

What rallies has she held on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

I am sure it will take two minutes to find the answers, awaiting your reply.

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