How can anyone support her after these in your face bold lies she tells.

[bkkyosemite]

That is pathological lying!

(I did not post this but found it on FB am only interested in what she says.)

https://www.facebook.com/serbevents/videos/10154115265842125/

[msanthrope]

1. Which stage? nt

[bkkyosemite]

2. It amazes me that you think it is okay for her to lie like she does... serious bold face lies.

Unbelievable.

[Marr]

10. They don't care about any of that.

It's all just celebrity promotion. The campaign is closer to a season of Survivor for them than a policy debate.

[kath]

32. Tiger Beat Swooners.

[Lizzie Poppet]

63. Isn't she just DREAMY?!?

Perfect description...

[tomm2thumbs]

38. "You cannot reason people out of a position which they have not been reasoned into"

[SoLeftIAmRight]

3. Climate change and the sixth global mass-extinction event is happening now

Sanders stated number one priority

[bobbobbins01]

4. Would you care to explain your support of this?

Are you just ok with supporting someone who lies? And if so, how can you trust any of her positions?

[nc4bo]

5. #WhichHillary? nt

[rhett o rick]

18. Wow, what dedication to hit the refresh button over and over to get the first response

slot. I guess the guys at the Cave will be happy. Of course you have to sacrifice substance, but that's to be expected.

[grossproffit]

29. Denial.

[workinclasszero]

59. Still anger I think

[Land of Enchantment]

6. The H people seem to have descended on us like a plague of locusts...

or maybe they just can't handle the truth.

[rhett o rick]

19. Nice to have the Admins on your side. nm

[cosmicone]

20. They finally reached a consensus!! n/t

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

41. Is the concensus that you should be 'flagged for review' for saying stupid shit? nt

[morningfog]

22. They were on timeouts for being assholes.

[kath]

33. This.

But they would have you believe that they're oh so victimized.
Bring out the crucifixes!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

44. The administrators who have graced us with this board felt differently.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10135098



As a fair man or woman I am sure you would agree with me that a board of Democrats that excluded supporters of the prohibitive front runner for her party's presidential nomination would be as absurd as a board for Golden State Warriors fans that excluded fans of Steph Curry.

[morningfog]

45. I don't agree with your framing.

I agree that there were bullshit alerts and hides and those posters, regardless of who they support, should never have been barred and should have their bars lifted.

There is a second subset of disruptive assholes. They only post to disrupt and troll posters. Again, regardless of who they support, they should be on time out, or banned entirely.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

46. I can be vituperative at times but I like to think I am a counter puncher.

I have some guidelines I set for myself.

-I rarely interrupt a Sanders celebratory thread and when I do it is only because Clinton is used as a foil.

-I trash all the anti-Clinton threads unless my ire has been so raised that I can't resist the inclination to respond. I usually end up regretting it.

P.S. There are disruptors on both sides.

[morningfog]

47. I don't disagree with your best practices and readily admit there are disruptors on both sides.

I do think Skinner's lifting of the 5 hide ban will only degrade the level of discourse, and already has. While it may lessen the motivation for some of the bullshit alerts and hides, it completely removes the incentive for disruptors to not disrupt.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

49. I saw a disruptor get a hide and be put on a time out despite having only two hides.

That suggests the administrators are looking at some posts.

When I saw the five hide ban was lifted my first instinct was to to use it settle old scores but then I thought better of it.

[morningfog]

50. Right, the 2 hides within 24 hours still flags for review.

But the 5 ban hide had its own value.

[Bluenorthwest]

65. cosmicone is now flagged for review.

About cosmicone
Statistics and Information
Account status: Flagged for review
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=143870

[morningfog]

66. I'm shocked!

[bjo59]

7. I sure can't.

This is bad but the one that is absolutely insupportable for me is the sight and sound of her clapping and laughing over Gaddafi's unbelievably sadistic murder. I just don't understand how people can overlook that and laud her vast experience and clear-eyed realism. What kind of experience and what kind of reality? Not my kind.

[loyalsister]

37. I agree

I wonder if it isn't so much that she lies as it is that she does it badly. She doesn't equivocate or deflect very well.

She makes flat verifiable statements and keeps getting caught. I think the idea is based on embellishing Clinton victimology leads people to root for them no matter what they do. Her husband lied into the camera and was quickly forgiven because there were real demons at the door and his lie was relatable.

She is setting the tone for a low expectations presidency so that anything she does will appear heroic. As far as politics goes, she is everything that's wrong with it. When it comes to her disregard of people and the pain they feel, she just gives me the creeps.

[SamKnause]

8. They do not care.

They will support her no matter what she says or does.

They do not care !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Marr]

9. Wow, that part where she accused Obama of using 'dirty tricks' for

pointing out her actual position on NAFTA... that certainly seems familiar.

[cosmicone]

11. Meh ...

Give up already ... the lies about lies are not working and Berniebro posts on facebook are not evidence of anything but a bunch of 19 somethings having a wild imagination fueled by hatred or desire for free stuff.

[white_wolf]

16. Someone who supports a liar like Clinton for the presidency has no room to call anyone else a liar.

The truth is right there on video, but I guess you'd rather stick your head in the sand then face facts. Clinton is a liar. She'll say whatever it takes to get elected.

[bkkyosemite]

56. Really..........did you even look at the video...there is much more of her lying elsewhere.

Oh I'll be 70 next month...19 somethings...lol...there are more CEO's and professionals in their 40's and 50's then you can imagine since you can't imagine Hillary lying.

[MFM008]

12. Ill tell you

First of all the great majority of "LIES" have been pointed out by republicans and their minions. Whole investigations about crap run by republicans, always coming back 0. NADA. GOOSE EGG. The Bosnia bulls*it, just that. Benghazi, emails, her reaction to Clintons affairs. I dont give a SH*T. Im not saying shes ever done something wrong and she has made mistakes, tell me Sanders hasnt. Or Obama or ANY politician. As a fellow scorpio I get the privacy stuff. You wont see anything or know anything about me UNLESS I put it out there. I just dont care when republicans keep calling her a liar or the media iNFER her credibility is questionable. They want a story period. Ok shes not a raging liberal, neither am I, though i would never vote for a republican if it would add 10 years to my life. So there it is. Hope it helps.

[Hoyt]

15. I like that view.

[AzDar]

26. So, you're okay with supporting a LIAR?

[Proud Liberal Dem]

54. +1000

I would add that, in the heat of a contentious primary campaign and upcoming general election, it's getting nigh impossible to sort everything out and referee every single statement that she has made in the 20+ years that Hillary has been involved in politics at the national level, especially when there are some people out there with a vested interest in twisting her statements and/or taking things out of context in order to fit their own agenda. There are a few things that she has said that have made me wince a bit but, by and large, she is not particularly worse than most other people whom have been involved in politics for a very long time.

[bkkyosemite]

57. Every single statement? She is a pathological liar. So many lies about Bernie currently.

She lies at the drop of hat about so many varied things. How can you honestly support a liar.

[Lil Missy]

13. Sounds like Bullshit promoted by Hillary Hatred.

[djean111]

52. Really? Which parts are not true?

I hate what Hillary stands for, I don't bother with hating an actual person. I know some people here can't separate the personal from the political and the issues, though - that is evident in your reply. I don't give a flying monkey fart about Hillary as a person, inasmuch as having an opinion of her personally. Why on earth would I? She is a total stranger to me. I just do not think she means well for me, my family, and this country. She lies. On camera. To us.

[DJ13]

17. Just look at the attitude of her supporters today

Its obvious they would excuse anything she does so their "team" can win.

It wasnt that long ago when that was a familiar complaint about the W supporters here, including by many of the same people who are acting that way for Hillary.

I think theres been enough conservatives that have infiltrated our party after W damaged the GOP that their influence is dropping the aggregate IQ of our party.

[cosmicone]

23. It is Newton's third law

So many of our posts were unfairly hidden because Bernie supporters could not stand any criticism of Bernie. A lot of us were put on forced time-outs by rigged juries.

Now we don't have to walk on eggshells any more.

We are liberals and democrats -- we are just realistic and don't chase unicorns. Calling us republicans may suit a temporary narrative but 1.8 million more people voted for Hillary than Bernie despite all that was thrown at her.

We are rejoicing her imminent victory.

[RobertEarl]

24. Lazy voters like Hillary

Voters that don't want to become educated and voters that just want to mark a ballot and forget about the rest are Hillary voters.

Voters that want to see politics reformed and revamped, beginning with campaign finance favor Bernie.

Voters that are alarmed about environmental matters are Bernie voters.

Lazy voters know the name Clinton and that's about all they want to know.

Karma, as we saw from the bush years and the lazy voters that allowed him a chance, that karma came in the depression and financial collapse and so many deaths and waste of dollars on war.

Lazy voters will reap what they sow, again,

I am proud of the Bernie voters. We actually care about the future and everybody and the planet.

But we are few. Lazy voters outnumber us and they are led by the nose via the media who love them as their sheep.

Sad case America has become.

[DJ13]

25. Sad case America has become.

So true.

[Juicy_Bellows]

27. Well said! Sad but true. Nt.

[kath]

34. Tell it! It's the sad truth.

There was an article posted here a day or two back where even someone who I think was affiliated with her campaign admitted that HRC appealed to "low-information voters"

[marions ghost]

35. I have to agree

Status quo, don't rock the boat, kick it down the road thinkers.

I hear from them --"the Clinton years were good."

And how long ago was that and what has happened since?" They can't tell you in any coherent way.

[Lizzie Poppet]

64. Lazy, low-information fools.

Or people who are actually okay with status-quo centrism and an RW economic policy. Both are contemptible.

[arcane1]

28. This is the "reality tv" era and Clinton and Trump are their candidates.

The actual substance of what they say is unimportant to the viewer/voter. They need not be consistent from one episode to the next.

[marions ghost]

36. Right

It's all about the spectacle. The facades.

My MIL follows it all like it's a hot soap opera on the Screaming Media.

[jillan]

21. Some of us can't support her. You can find them in the Bernie group :)

[Rebkeh]

30. That's one of the many differences between a politician and a leader

Lies that stick indicate a good politician, it's an asset to the Panem crowd. I'm more interested in change than poltics, but it's just so damn slow.

I still hope we can make a bigger leap, but we have gone further than I ever expected and the election is still a ways off. So that's cause for hope. Bernie is shaking things up, finally somebody is. I'm disappointed they still insist on the tribal framework though, but it's almost like trying to talk sense into an addict that insists he's fine. Nothing you can do, really.

It's not about the win, well, it is about the win. Of course it's about the win, but there's a bigger picture. The Democratic party, the way they want to keep it, is unsustainable. It's due for a reboot and nature will demand one eventually. I hope we can cut it off at the pass but I can't see it, people simply don't like change. They resist it hard and the more you push, the tighter they hold on. If Trump is what it takes, so be it. It's not like they didn't see him coming.

Or we can simply create an entirely new party.

[Kalidurga]

31. They have invited us to do so.

They say go form your own party if you don't like our nominee. Then we say look the Independent block is the largest block you need them and they are all like why can't you see that Hillary is double plus good even if we would burn a Republican at the stake for doing the same thing.

[-none]

53. This can been seen all over DU.

"...and they are all like why can't you see that Hillary is double plus good even if we would burn a Republican at the stake for doing the same thing.

Excusing what they should be up in arms about because it's their guy doing it.

[PonyUp]

39. Like this:

[DanTex]

40. Yeah, we get it, bash, bash, bash. It didn't work. She won. Time to find another hobby.

[leftofcool]

42. Keep trying.

[Tarc]

43. A carefully-crafted video montage is not an argument

Use you own words with your own quality sources, then we'll talk.

[casperthegm]

51. I'm your huckleberry

Use my own words? You got it. Here is my personal list of my reasons that I find HRC to be grossly inadequate to be the Democratic nominee. These are actual issues, not "I like his/her experience." This is where Clinton fails, yet most of her supporters stick to the general phrases, like "it's her time" or "she's more electable" while dismissing all of these facts as if they mean nothing. When in fact they should mean everything;

Clinton’s position on Keystone (or lack of one). She waited until the same week that Obama made his decision before announcing where she stood. That's not standing up for the environment. That's politics.

Wall Street money. Whether it's impression or reality, it's there and it can't help but make me wonder. Generally speaking, it's hard to imagine the banks and Wall Street throwing all of that money at her and saying "here you go, we don't expect anything in return."

Where are the transcripts?

Her opposition to Glass Stegall. Though I do recall her telling the banks to "cut it out." Thanks Hillary.

Her Iraq vote. You may be sick of hearing about it but it's a big deal. It was poor judgement and lack of foresight. Sanders saw that it would destabilize the region. And it did. Now we not have the legacy of the Iraq war, we have the current ISIS situation.

Speaking of that, there is the no-fly zone proposal. Another poor foreign policy decision. What happens when Russian jets cross that line? You have to be prepared for that and I don't see it.

The email and server investigation by the FBI. Sorry, it's real. It very well could end up being nothing in the end, but what if it's not? What if it drags on until the general election and then she gets indicted? Then you end up with a republican in the White House.

Gay marriage. You can see how she has flip flopped over the years, as confirmed via politifact. Another change based on the political winds.

Her support of fracking

Her support of NAFTA

Her support of the TPP – before she changed and now opposes it.

Her auto bailout lie regarding Sanders

Her Koch brothers smear

Her one issue candidate smear

This is something that is more representative of a republican nominee and we'd be licking our chops at the idea of ripping into this candidate. If the Democratic party was still the Democratic party, rather than what it has morphed into.

[bkkyosemite]

58. There are so many documented clips of her lying all over the media and net.

It's very odd you have not noticed her constant lying.

[gollygee]

48. I'll support her over Trump. N/t

[seabeyond]

55. Once investigated, a lot of the bold face lies are simply lies.

[bkkyosemite]

60. She does it so boldy as if they are true in your face..that is not lil white lies..that is a

problem.

[seabeyond]

62. I disagree. I think you are wrong. I think you are prejudice.

[cyberpj]

61. Why isn't this a Sanders commercial? Pointing out a liar is not "going negative", but telling truth.

It's time to start telling the truth about Hillarious.