Scathing blog by 3 AA women titled: Black People don’t OWE Hillary Clinton SHIT!

[nc4bo]

I'll just leave this bit here. There's much, much more plus video clips at the link.


https://3chicspolitico.com/2016/02/06/black-people-dont-owe-hillary-clinton-shit/

Posted on February 6, 2016 by Ametia

*SNIP*

Elihaas:

“You know fam, that whole fake it and wing it until you can make it way of the too slick… that slick con that folks like the Clintons pull to wangle their way into mostly unearned esteem and inevitability…

It’s that slick spin that sells you the Bill Clinton is the ‘greatest’ politician ever (sometimes they qualify that with the word ‘retail’) …That it was all thanks to him and his one speech at the DNC that President Obama was re-elected…

It’s that same slick spin that force-feeds the notion of Hillary as the ‘smartest, most accomplished, most qualified and most experienced’ female politician …at first by virtue of having been first lady for 8 years, then because she carpetbagged her way into the Senate via their same strong-arming tactics, and lately, the laughable and blatantly false assertion that President Obama who declined to make her his V.P twice, somehow made her SoS because he ‘trusted’ her ‘judgement’…(It all boils down to that same ‘extraction of concessions’ she repeatedly talked about last night as she and Bernie Sanders went back and forth on normalizing relationships with Iran. How ironic.)

And don’t forget that it was *she* who advised President Obama on that very tough decision on whether to take Bin Laden out or not…LOL…For the duration of her time as SoS, President Obama mostly conferred with and relied on his National Security team led by Tom Donilon…It was only after John Kerry took over as SoS, that we saw the natural and seamless coordination of high stakes foreign policy between the President and his SoS return..

It seems some of "us" ARE paying very close attention AND keeping it real.

[Press Virginia]

1. Daaaaaaaaaaaamn!

[farleftlib]

2. K&R

I'll believe til my dying day that Prez Obama loathes HRC. She got SoS as Miss unCongeniality prize.

Check this out:

She’s very curiously, always needed the assist of unusually high numbers of people helping her out, to get ahead…She needs to be constantly choreographed and propped up and defended and talked-up by every high-profile man, woman and group out there – and still, she mostly fails to impress…

And even with all the expensive advisors and outsized high profile help, and for all the heavy choreography and force-fed projections of ‘superior’ ‘greatness’ that has been spun since time immemorial by their spin masters, courtiers, paid mouthpieces and those paid to herald them… and even with her chest-thumping and loud protestations and rehearsed ‘presidential’ affectations in speech and gestures, she still barely manages a mediocre performance and outing – again and again…

[GoneFishin]

4. Maybe. But I think they make nice because they are both insiders of the party machine.

[farleftlib]

6. For sure

They have to put on a brave face, but you know they want Obama to endorse her before the convention and he's wisely staying mum. Making nice only goes so far.

[Fawke Em]

10. I think he appointed her to keep his enemies close, myself.

[840high]

35. Yes.

[Art_from_Ark]

45. Or maybe as a tit-for-tat for super delegate votes

Or maybe both

[Carolina]

50. Exactly

She rode Bill's smarts (Georgetown U, Yale Law) and talent (charisma, natural ability to connect with people) to power.

Wellesley, Yale Law School indicate that she was smart, but that's it. After law school, she went to DC to work on the Nixon impeachment committee, but didn't last long in DC because she didn't pass the DC bar.

So what did she do then... ran off to Arkansas! She chased after Bill because she recognized his rising star.

When she ran for POTUS in 2008, she cited her 20 years of experience. Really?! First Lady of AK for 12 years and FLOTUS for 8 years. And as corporate lawyer at the Rose Law Firm, she relied heavily on Vince Foster.

She could never have carpet bagged her way to the NY Senate seat had she not been FLOTUS. And her senate record is what? Aye votes for IWR, the Patriot Act and Bush's bankruptcy bill.

We all recall her abysmal management and nasty conduct of her 2008 primary campaign. Frankly, I was appalled that BHO chose her for SOS, but I think he'd been inspired by Lincoln's team of rivals and wanted to keep her busy and away. In so doing, she couldn't be a quasi backbencher sniping at him. In the end, though, she was awful. Honduras, Libya and Syria are a mess.

She is nothing without powerful men around or behind her, her experience is largely derived from having married Bill, and her judgment when she has power has been awful.

I have always been a Democrat and always voted for the ticket despite such things as Kerry's and Edwards' votes for IWR. In 2008, I had hoped BHO would be more like a 21st century FDR. But he disappointed by selecting former Clintonistas and Wall streeters to cabinet and advisory positions.

Now we are expected to anoint HRC. Hell no, she's in it for herself, she plays sexist gender politics, she lies about her alleged record and changes her mind with the political winds, and she is the worst sort of Democrat... a founder of the DLC and a triangulator to her core. I won't hold my nose this go round. We need Bernie!

[Nedsdag]

58. +1,000,000 n/t

[passiveporcupine]

72. Not completely the way I read it.

So what did she do then... ran off to Arkansas! She chased after Bill because she recognized his rising star.

She had been punting marriage with Bill for some time, but then failed the bar exam in DC.

From Wiki:
After failing the District of Columbia bar exam[62] and passing the Arkansas exam, Rodham came to a key decision. As she later wrote, "I chose to follow my heart instead of my head".[63] She thus followed Bill Clinton to Arkansas, rather than staying in Washington, where career prospects were brighter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton

Yes, she probably was following his bright star, but I think she was also running from her own failure...rather than try to pass the exam again, and end up in a better job, she quit and followed Bill and married him. Her heart didn't choose him until things got tough (her easy ride was over) and she didn't want to fight it out. She quit on herself.

[ieoeja]

68. Obama doesn't take politics personal. I doubt he loathes her. Though they clearly hate him.

I suspect he pities them.

And I'm glad reading the OP that people noticed the shift in White House/State Department relations after Hillary left.

[farleftlib]

69. True. They loathe him

I guess he just steers clear of the negativity as much as he can, anyway.

[RobertEarl]

3. Kerry is 10 times better

But H was better than Albright

[Motown_Johnny]

5. K&R

[JudyM]

7. Great read, loved that. Thanks for posting.

[jfern]

8. Exactly, they shouldn't be taken for granted

[Arazi]

9. Oh my!

[Bonobo]

11. Their opinion is certainly at least as significant as anyone else.

The fact that they are not on DU posting OP after OP does nothing to diminish the significance of this for me.

[Arazi]

16. I'm sure DU's black spokesperson will be by shortly

[xfundy]

27. Hi. Please explain that comment.

TY in advance.

[xfundy]

28. Hi. Please explain that comment.

[bettyellen]

31. excuse me- what?

[Number23]

39. Bravenak is the Negro they Love to Hate

Hattip to my boy Ice Cube

And given the quality of her haters, it's pretty apparent they hate her because she's much, MUCH smarter than they are.

[AgingAmerican]

41. She has admitted that she supports Sanders and hates Hillary

And that she only comes here to troll. She admits it. That's why she only lasts a week or so between vacations.

Personally I feel sorry for her.

[Number23]

43. Thanks for proving my point.

[AgingAmerican]

44. Like I said

I feel sorry for her.

[Digital Puppy]

71. smh....

what a impression you have made...

[rbrnmw]

47. damn straight and this shit is getting offensive

by the way love ya you rock

[Number23]

66. "Getting" offensive??! My love, we crossed that bridge a looooooooooooong time ago

And I am particularly amused by the folks that have crawled out of the woodwork to call bravenak a troll. I'm sure it's a coincidence that the vast majority of these folks were devoted fans of Manny Goldstein who absolutely DELIGHTED in antagonizing and dismissing black folks and women. He'd say something offensive, get called out, apologize -- and then do the same shit again two days later.

Regularly antagonizing disenfranchised minorities with "satire" so dull and unfunny that even Carrot Top would roll his eyes? Wins you the undying affection of tons of DUers.

Be a black poster that dares to discuss black opinion that makes a large number of the folks in the afore mentioned group INCREDIBLY uncomfortable because it dashes the notion that they have the first clue what the fuck they're talking about re: racial issues in this country? Public Enemy Number 1. No wonder she wears their hate with such aplomb.

by the way love ya you rock

I feel exactly the same.

[rbrnmw]

67. you are right it's been offensive

bravenak is a class act I don't know how she does it? I guess they don't want to hear anything a strong black woman like bravenak has to say.

[WillyT]

12. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

[GoneOffShore]

13. K&R

[RiverLover]

14. "Stay woke folks!"

?w=640

SG2: Why would I want to vote any Clinton back in the White House who gave us failed policies targeting & destroying black families? 1994 Crime Bill, Welfare reform, DADT, DOMA. Stay woke folks!

When Bill Clinton took office in 1992, 845,000 ppl were in prison. When he left there were 1,334,000. Mass incarceration of black people. As an advocate, I can’t say #BlackLivesMatter & then vote for someone whose polices destroyed black families just because they’re a Democrat. Not going to happen!

Hillary Clinton lobbied for the 1994 Crime Bill with right wing rhetoric calling black youths predators. We all remember the dog whistles, fairy tales and mocking President from the 08 campaign calling him naive.

Great piece. So glad she isn't fooling everyone!!

[zentrum]

19. ^I wish to associate myself with these remarks!^

[fun n serious]

48. Bernie voted for that 1994 bill nt

[Kurovski]

54. And?

I believe there was a reason he had to vote for it or lose something important, you know how the jag-wagons build bills in DC.

Anyhow, and even if he did, I hear some Black citizens saying Bernie's the lesser of two evils. I didn't see an endorsement of him at that website, not that there isn't one somewhere in there.

Many black people think the Clintons (and Dems!) are execrable in their preying on the community to further their own desires.

[fun n serious]

59. He was forced to vote on it?

My point is you can not use it against the Clinton's and excuse Bernie's vote. You can't. in my opinion Bernie Sanders is NAIVE in thinking he can get all these campaign promised passed.

[Kurovski]

62. It's honestly not my fight.

I'm not black, those three women are. They've tallied it up and laid it out as regards the Clintons, and I saw no endorsement of Sanders.

Sanders denounced the bill in 1994. He called it a punishment-of-the-poor bill. Clinton railed against "super-predators." Too bad she doesn't think that way about the Wall Street predators.

He voted for it because it contained a provision of the Violence Against Women Act. The funds were urgently needed.

Again, that is how it works with bills. You may continue being obtuse for all the good it will do you.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511199494

[snort]

63. +1

[Kurovski]

65. Sorry for calling you "obtuse".

That was foolish of me. I'm a jerk.

Sorry!

[JackInGreen]

15. We need a fire extinguisher emote

Cuz that's HOT.

[Cheese Sandwich]

17. EPIC SMACKDOWN!

[zentrum]

18. Yowza.

Not to mention the way HRC talked about Obama in 08. Tried to insinuate he was real Other—all the way to, wink, wink Muslim.

It always seemed to me that Obama made her SOS in the name of keep your enemies close (put her in the Cabinet) but make sure they're busy and out of a lot. It was a way to help her save face after losing to him, and to make peace with the DNC etc.

Well, TaNehesi Coates just endorsed Bernie in the last week. He sees, he says, that Bernie's economic program will be better for AA's. He wished it went further and included reparations—but he's for Bernie.

[StevieM]

20. Hillary doesn't think and hasn't said that black people owe her anything. And black people also

don't owe it to Sanders supporters to not vote for Hillary if that's what they want to do.

[Kurovski]

55. JUJITSU!

Heh.

[Ino]

21. That's gonna hurt

Excellent rant!

[MrMickeysMom]

22. "Don’t think you can scare Black people into voting for Hillary."

Good Read...

Get THEE to the Greatest Pages, for fuck's sake...

[KingFlorez]

23. I don't feel like I owe anyone anything

My vote is based on issues and I think most black voters have the same view. And I certainly have not seen any evidence of this notion that Clinton believes that she is owed black votes.

[nc4bo]

25. It's just a little presumptuous that she believes certain states are Her Firewall.

I mean, what in the world does that phrase mean? What is idea based upon?

Clinton's firewall States.......

[KingFlorez]

29. Knowing where you perform best and feeling you are owed votes is entirely different

Public polling has shown that she performs well with black voters and I imagine that her internals show the same thing. Having a firewall (if it's possible) is part of campaign strategy.

[bettyellen]

33. Don't ruin the new voters conspiracy theories! I was told Clinton said she "owned POC"

because someone made a list of 7-8 major constituencies they though she would do strongly with- or belonged to her. Translated here as "Clinton owns blacks". You can't make this shit up.

[Kurovski]

56. If you read through that website

you'd see plenty of evidence the Clintons think they are owed, and they even attempt enforcement of that debt!

This is one reason why they are disliked even by those who vote for them.

[Live and Learn]

24. K&R nt

[PatrynXX]

26. must say that was refreshing.

telling it like it is. yeah this might be an offensive term but it's what one would call a bitch slap from fellow women . Cat Fight? except Hillary wants one but doesn't know it. Because she lives in a bubble and people are having longer memories. Maybe it's because of the net or whatever but wow. that one needs to be shared a bit. the CBC is gonna end up like irrelevant if they keep endorsing candidates that people don't agree with.

[amborin]

30. Memo Hillary released post NH primary was super insulting to POC. Takes their vote for granted, just

assumes they will fall in line.

It's her narcissistic sense of entitlement, again. People are objects and they better line up and vote as I wish.

[senz]

32. Yep, telling it like it is.

These young ladies are paying close attention.

[thereismore]

37. What I'm thinking. nt

[840high]

36. Wow +100

[Skwmom]

38. IMO Clinton's comment seem to infer that she told Obama what to do and that

she is so much more competent than Obama.

Do I think the Clintons will be able to keep from tearing down Obama? No.

I remember when she went to Congress to talk about her candidacy and the comments from women in Congress which while lauding Clinton were rather negative to Obama.

[AgingAmerican]

40. Apparently the Black Democratic Caucus does believe they owe her

Cuz they are begging AAs to abandon Sanders (and their future, IMHO).

[bvar22]

57. That support is something I can't fathom.

Neither Clinton has done a single thing to help PoC,
and many things that have directly hurt them.

....but Bill is smooth,
Hillary....not so much.

[senz]

42. K&R

[Betty Karlson]

46. Thanks for the link. That was an awesome blog! (eom)

[Fumesucker]

49. I thought this part was good..

It’s that perception that assumes Hillary ‘accomplished’ and ‘qualified’ – and yet have people ‘surprised’ that for all the retroactive and automatic projection of smart and high-flying, she actually flunked the D.C bar exam, and only managed to pass the bar in Arkansas. She had no job offers in Arkansas – none – and only got hired by the University of Arkansas Law School at Fayetteville because Bill was already teaching there. She was not hired at the prestigious Rose Law Firm, until Bill became Arkansas Attorney General – and she was made a partner only after Bill was elected Arkansas Governor.

So, here we have the supposed ‘greatest’ politician of our time, who supposedly got President Obama a second term, but couldn’t get his supposedly more accomplished and more qualified candidate wife elected in 2008 against the same no-name black guy who was supposedly wet behind the ears…

And even now, having kneecapped and preemptively cleared the field, and lined up the entire political and economic establishment behind her, she’s still having a tough time beating off the no-name guy from Vermont who only jumped into the race on a whim – and without any advantages and all odds against him..

And now they demand the President endorse her or else…

[KeepItReal]

51. These Sistas are definitely keeping it...

💯

[Oilwellian]

52. Kicking this back to the top

:kick:

[Kurovski]

53. Great number of facts, videos, etc.

The ugly truth, the shit people do in their manic grasping at power.

rec'd

[polly7]

60. Wow. K&R. nt.

[Enthusiast]

61. I like keeping it real.

[nyabingi]

64. YES!! (nt)

[NurseJackie]

70. Nobody "owes" Hillary their support ... I can't think of anyone who's actually suggested that.

Hillary EARNS their support, and many thoughtful and rational people are eagerly giving their support to her.



Go, Hillary!