2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumRevised Iowa results: Hillary ahead by .25%. Is this the final?
From The Hill February 07, 2016, 01:36 pm:
Clinton hangs on in revised Iowa caucus results
The Iowa Democratic Party on Sunday updated the results of the Iowa caucuses after discovering discrepancies in the tallies at five precincts, but the final outcome remains unchanged.
Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton still places first in the caucuses with 700.47 state delegate equivalents, or 49.84 percent, the party said in a statement.
Primary rival Bernie Sanders comes in second with 696.92 state delegate equivalents, or 49.59 percent.
The total net change gives Sanders an additional 0.1053 state delegate equivalents and strips Clinton of 0.122 state delegate equivalents.
Are they still reviewing or not?
Metric System
(6,048 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)are there any advantages to caucuses?
dogman
(6,073 posts)Turnout determines the portion of delegates awarded and it determines the total number of delegates to be awarded in the next election. Unfortunately an area can have a lot of sway on the candidate choice while not being able to carry those precincts in a general election.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)They identify volunteers for party committees and county party officials. The candidate preference portion is only part of it - and nobody paid any attention to it until McGovern and Carter took advantage of the preference results in the 70s.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Either would have a fit if someone dared take 'first caucus' or 'first primary' from them.
Primaries and elections should be weeks long to give everyone a chance to vote.
Every state primary should start on March 1st and end on March 31st. (and the caucus should die)
Every Fall election should start on the last Tuesday in September and end on the last Tuesday in November, the week before Thanksgiving.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)The caucuses are so unfair to people who can't get to them at one specific time - for instance people who work in places like hospitals and who can't leave their shifts. I heard some college professors on NPR who said they didn't get time off from their classes for the caucuses. Seems wrong.
all american girl
(1,788 posts)that's all we got....I'm only kidding...kind of
Cirque du So-What
(25,977 posts)Interstate 80, Iowa. Mississippi River ... Davenport ... corn, corn, corn, corn, corn, What's that smell? Corn, corn, corn, Iowa City. Corn, corn, corn, corn, corn, look, a tree! Corn, corn, corn, Des Moines. Corn, corn, corn, corn, corn, there's that smell again. Corn, corn, corn, Council Bluffs ... Missouri River!
PonyUp
(1,680 posts)He got lost driving in, and called the company for directions. They asked him what landmarks were around him and he said "Corn".
Cirque du So-What
(25,977 posts)I will give equal time to an equally dismal stretch of roadway in my own state:
The Ohio Turnpike: cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop "Road construction!" cop cop cop cop cop cop cop cop.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)Pennsylvania: pothole pothole pothole pothole pothole "DEER!!" pothole pothole pothole pothole
Cirque du So-What
(25,977 posts)in my description of OH highways as well.
awake
(3,226 posts)I believe that years ago NH passed a law requiring that, so Iowa get to have the 1st caucuses. If Iowa changes to a primary then they lose the power of going 1st.
postin4Bern
(64 posts)based on a lottery-type drawing?
awake
(3,226 posts)This year over $100,000,000 was spent on tv ads alone not to mention all of the full hotels and restaurants in the dead of winter.
postin4Bern
(64 posts)awake
(3,226 posts)Cirque du So-What
(25,977 posts)about a phenomenon known as 'primary tourism.' Interviewed some people who had gone to NH to experience the process firsthand.
TTUBatfan2008
(3,623 posts)My feeling is that the super close election this year might be a motivator for the Iowa Democratic Party to change it up and just use regular voting.
TheFarseer
(9,326 posts)I seriously think that is why.
awake
(3,226 posts)The diffance was just 3.65 delegate equlvalents less than the coin flips that Hillary won.
Or as Bernie said it was a virtual tie.
gyroscope
(1,443 posts)they need to release the raw vote count as the Sanders campaign has requested so we can see how they are getting these numbers. Why would they refuse to comply with a reasonable request given the widespread reports of voting problems. Or else someone needs to file a lawsuit or make a request under the Freedom of Information Act or something.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)Too many power brokers have too much to lose if Bernie gets in. The knives are out and they will stop at nothing. A sham democracy....
NowSam
(1,252 posts)wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Bad memories
wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)In republicanese.
wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)It's funny watching it.
cali
(114,904 posts)You are extrapolating. basing your supposition on one caucus where the results were separated by a percentage of one percent, and where there were documented issues at several sites, makes your petulant claiim both silly and the result of obviously faulty logic.
wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)conspiracies." It's simply called paying attention.
We've seen how the establishment has become overly horrified that the mighty Hillary may fail, yet again.
wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)onecaliberal
(32,894 posts)There is ALWAYS a reason people do things in secret.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)his supporters move on.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Bjornsdotter
(6,123 posts)...I've been waiting for the Des Moines Register to report it is completed.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)It says Bernie gains a part of a delegate, but Hillary gains a part of a percentage point.
Bjornsdotter
(6,123 posts)...and for the life of me I can't figure it out.
I just want them to fix this so the next time we don't have an issue like this.
And just what is a partial delegate?!