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TroyD

(4,551 posts)
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 03:56 AM Sep 2012

Quinnipiac/NYT/CBS: Obama Is Widening His Lead in Ohio (+10) and Florida (+9)

OHIO - Obama +10

Obama - 53

Romney - 43

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FLORIDA - Obama +9

Obama - 53

Romney - 44

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September 26, 2012

COLUMBUS, Ohio — For weeks, Republicans in Ohio have been watching with worry that the state’s vital 18 electoral votes were trending away from Mitt Romney. The anxiety has been similar in Florida, where Republicans are concerned that President Obama is gaining the upper hand in the fight for the state’s 29 electoral votes.

Those fears are affirmed in the findings of the latest Quinnipiac University/New York Times/CBS News polls of likely voters in both states, which show that Mr. Obama has widened his lead over Mr. Romney and is outperforming him on nearly every major campaign issue, even though about half said they were disappointed in Mr. Obama’s presidency.

The polls, along with interviews with supporters and advisers in the nation’s two largest battleground states, lay bare an increasingly urgent challenge facing Mr. Romney as he prepares for his next chance to move the race in his favor, at the first debate with Mr. Obama next week. Mr. Romney’s burden is no longer to win over undecided voters, but also to woo back the voters who seem to be growing a little comfortable with the idea of a second term for Mr. Obama.

SNIP

The New York Times, in collaboration with Quinnipiac University and CBS News, is tracking the presidential race with recurring polls in six states. In Ohio — which no Republican has won the presidency without — Mr. Obama is leading Mr. Romney 53 percent to 43 percent in the poll. In Florida, the president leads Mr. Romney 53 to 44 percent in the poll.

More:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/26/us/politics/polls-show-obama-widening-lead-in-ohio-and-florida.html

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Quinnipiac/NYT/CBS: Obama Is Widening His Lead in Ohio (+10) and Florida (+9) (Original Post) TroyD Sep 2012 OP
And Pennsylvania Obama 54 percent to Romney 42 percent (Obama +12) Tx4obama Sep 2012 #1
Thanks - Didn't notice PA at first since the NYT didn't mention it till way down : ) TroyD Sep 2012 #3
If this holds up, Romney is toast. longship Sep 2012 #2
A margin that large also means they can't dismiss exit polls and get away with election theft King_Klonopin Sep 2012 #4
It almost seems to good to be true to me TroyD Sep 2012 #5
Romney's investors are going to be really angry. tclambert Sep 2012 #6
Obama's gap is so wide, NCLefty Sep 2012 #7
hehe mgcgulfcoast Sep 2012 #8
All Romney has left now are the debates TroyD Sep 2012 #9
Democrats are still largely unsampled... LovePeacock Sep 2012 #10
But let's remember, these polls don't matter if we can't get people TO the polls TroyD Sep 2012 #12
Of course. LovePeacock Sep 2012 #15
GOP paging Gravis and Rasmussen Blue Yorker Sep 2012 #11
This is Romney's problem right here: Jennicut Sep 2012 #13
You sure are fast to post these polls. DCBob Sep 2012 #14

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
3. Thanks - Didn't notice PA at first since the NYT didn't mention it till way down : )
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 04:19 AM
Sep 2012

PENNSYLVANIA - PRESIDENT [Obama +12]

Quinnipiac/NYT/CBS

Obama - 54

Romney - 42

longship

(40,416 posts)
2. If this holds up, Romney is toast.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 04:15 AM
Sep 2012

And bear in mind, approaching a 10 point spread means that it is outside the error bars. Plus, over 50 percent is the magic number. That means that there are likely insufficient undecideds to flip the poll, all other things being equal.

With these two states going this way, I do not see a path to victory for Governor Romney. He is doomed.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
5. It almost seems to good to be true to me
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 06:28 AM
Sep 2012

Some people are wondering if they have oversampled Democrats. I hope not.

I do notice that even Rasmussen had PA at Obama +12 this past week, so it's interesting that both Ras & Quinnipiac agree on that state .

The OH & FL numbers are higher than other pollsters though, so I'll be interested to see whether other polls pick up the same numbers later this week.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
6. Romney's investors are going to be really angry.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 06:59 AM
Sep 2012

Time for him to arrange a golden parachute deal with his campaign finances.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
9. All Romney has left now are the debates
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 07:46 AM
Sep 2012

And the possibility of an October surprise.

If one of those 2 things doesn't save him, he's probably done.

 

LovePeacock

(225 posts)
10. Democrats are still largely unsampled...
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 07:51 AM
Sep 2012

So if mainstream polls are starting to turn towards the President, it's a big deal because a large portion of democrats (African Americans and young people) do NOT participate in polls for whatever reason (reliance on cell phones; simply hanging up and not wanting to participate).

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
12. But let's remember, these polls don't matter if we can't get people TO the polls
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 08:39 AM
Sep 2012

We have to make sure that racial minorities are not suppressed, and that other dishonest activity by the Republicans does not occur.

 

LovePeacock

(225 posts)
15. Of course.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 08:45 AM
Sep 2012

Believe me, I'm no optimist. The democrats are way too good at fucking up for me to give them any leeway.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
13. This is Romney's problem right here:
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 08:39 AM
Sep 2012

"Sharon Whalen, 56, a former travel agent from Dade City who said she and her husband voted for Senator John McCain of Arizona, the Republican nominee, in 2008, said she had developed “a very bad impression of Romney.” She said she intended to support Mr. Obama and was troubled by the Republican ticket’s plan for Medicare.

“There’s just something about him I don’t trust,” said Ms. Whalen, a poll respondent who spoke in a follow-up interview. “It’s not so much that I don’t believe what he is saying, but I just don’t think he’s for the middle and lower class. He’s more for helping the rich.”"

He is toast with these people. They don't trust them.

And this guy:

"Mr. Romney’s comments about the “47 percent” of Americans seemed to be undercutting him with other working-class voters here. “This last thing, where he was going on about the 47 percent who are dependent on government, is hard to swallow,” said Kenneth Myers, a Republican who lives in Mansfield and is unemployed."

He is having issues with working class Republicans in these areas. Republicans! Romney is a horrible candidate.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
14. You sure are fast to post these polls.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 08:43 AM
Sep 2012

How do get them so quickly?

BTW, this is great news. We are very close to if not already outside the "margin of cheating".

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