2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNARAL spokeswoman who spoke against Bernie is also a DNC Regional Press Secretary.
In my mind there is something just not right about a press secretary for the DNC openly criticizing one of the candidates.
Here is the Slate article quoting her:
Bernie Sanders Just Cant Get It Right With Womens Groups
But Sanders is right that the general public cant know whether Planned Parenthood backed Clinton out of genuine gusto or because the embattled healthcare provider made a political calculation that she was its most electable hopeand that she, like Planned Parenthood, might need all the help she can get.
NARAL rightly tweaked Sanders not for what he did say on Tuesday, but for what he didnt. When asked a direct question about why he would be the best candidate for women, he ignored the impending crisis that restricts access to abortion, spokeswoman Kaylie Hanson wrote. Sanders responded to the controversy over his establishment comment, but not to the question at hand: of how he would fight for womens rights in office. Hes made it clear that, in his mind, the economic critique at the center of his campaign trumps the importance of any identity politics, including gender.
But as Hanson points out, access to health careand especially to birth control and abortion, which allow women to time their families around their economic situations and their careersis an economic issue, and one that's fundamental to a woman's ability to succeed. Sanders had a great opportunity to make that point last night, and thereby to signal that he really deserved Planned Parenthoods endorsement. Once again, he passed.
So Kaylie is saying that Bernie did not go far enough to signal he deserved the endorsement. That really should not be an issue in this conversation right now....
Because NARAL has given Bernie Sanders 100% rating through the years.
Bernie on Women's Rights
What has Bernie actually accomplished as far as pro-choice legislation?
During his 16 years in the House of Representatives and 8 years in the Senate, Bernie has consistently supported a womans right to choose a safe abortion.
In addition to co-sponsoring the 1993 Freedom of Choice Act, Bernie voted numerous times to allow women to travel interstate for abortions, supported permitting federal funding of organizations that conduct abortions, voted to increase access and funding for family planning for women, and co-sponsored the Womens Health Protection Act of 2013, which prohibited many limitations on abortions. In March 2008, Bernie voted against defining an unborn child as eligible for State Childrens Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) and in turn defining life as beginning at conception.
In light of these votes, Bernie has repeatedly received ratings of 100 percent from NARAL Pro-Choice America, and ratings of 0 percent from the National Right to Life Committee, indicating a pro-choice stance.
Much more at the link.
Kaylie Hanson in her role as NARAL Spokeswoman is free to say whatever she likes about Bernie's stances.
However Kaylie Hanson in her role as DNC Regional Press Secretary for the Northeast should be a little more careful and show neutrality when speaking of Democratic candidates.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Again, Willie Geist said that, when the story of the DNC's role in this primary is written, it's going to look very bad (or words to that effect).
I could not agree more.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)DirkGently
(12,151 posts)No one who favors HRC should be onboard with the appearance of cronyism either. It undermines the Democratic brand and supports the criticism we are no better than the other party.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Happened on it because name sounded familiar. The DNC shows no neutrality.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)And justifies the accusations that these groups are part of the "establishment"
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)The DNC is officially the Hillary campaign committee now. No neutrality anymore.
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Ah, there it is...
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)ffs.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)DirkGently
(12,151 posts)This is precisely what Sanders meant. The leadership of perfectly wonderful progressive groups nonetheless is woven into the fabric of, and beholden to, the DNC.
It doesn't mean he should support them any less, but it does undercut the implication that they have somehow come to a reasoned conclusion that Hillary Clinton is the better candidate on these issues.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Good way to describe it.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)And that he was right. It was simply an opportunity to try to grasp at some advantage by taking offense.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Groups that were advocacy groups for women made themselves political arms of the Clinton campaign.
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)it's widely known that you don't get a second bite at the Clinton apple. you're either with them, or shut out forever. these LEADERS ALL know this. from unions to progressive groups, everyone wants a seat at the table should some miracle deliver a Clinton win.
these leaders also know that Sanders has no such compunction. so they're free to dis him all they want, and he'll welcome them back into the fold. no harm no foul.
as if.
the rank and file will remember, and there's plenty of foul odor emanating from these ESTABLISHMENT endorsements.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)That's part of my sense too. It's an easy Pascal's Wager to throw in with the one who will bring the whole establishment (there's that word again) down on your head if you don't, when there is no such danger in leaving the grassroots person out in the cold.
A pattern progressives are pretty familiar with, I think.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)reality of it all.
It is basically blackmail.
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)there's no beltway reporter who wants the door shut on them should there be a new Clintonian Camelot.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Miryam Lipper has taken over as the new Deputy National Press Secretary and Director of Broadcast Media after serving in assistant press secretary and press assistant roles at the DNC. Miryam spent time in Georgia through the 2014 midterms helping to elect Democrats up and down the ticket. Miryam is a graduate of Indiana University. @MiryamLipper
http://www.p2016.org/parties/dnc033015pr.html
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)"great quote, who said this?"
"You can attribute it to me."
Bahahaha!
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)FloriTexan
(838 posts)Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)we post this stuff out in the GD: P for all to discuss. This isn't in a protected group where they'll be immediately banned for speaking against it.
But they seem to hide when the lights come on. :/
wouldsman
(94 posts)If she holds a position both as a NARAL spokesperson and a DNC press secretary, then she is in fact part of the establishment. But that is so obvious anyone can see that.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)draa
(975 posts)Making Florida proud.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Related to that gem, Kathy Sullivan?
Time to clean house at the DNC.
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)But at this point it really isn't. I was worried a bit when Bernie made those comments about HRC, PP, etc. but now I see he was perfectly justified. It's a wonder this type of stuff doesn't make the news.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)I will follow a link that takes me in circles, but never to a definitive answer. I would like to know what, if any, groups get money from them.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Kristin Sosanie has been tapped as Regional Press Secretary for the South. She comes to the DNC from the South Carolina Democratic Party and Vincent Sheheens campaign for Governor in South Carolina, where she served as the Communications Director. Before that, she was the Communications Director for the Obama campaign in Minnesota, after serving as the Communications Director for the Minnesota DFL. Originally from New Jersey, Kristin is returning to DC shes spent time on the Hill, working for the House Agriculture Committee, and received both her undergraduate and graduate degrees from The George Washington University. @KSosanie
http://www.p2016.org/parties/dnc033015pr.html
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)
Kaylie Hanson
?@KaylieEHanson
Why Bernie Sanders can't win over reproductive rights groups http://ti.me/1JBIdt3 via @TIMEPolitics
Sounds like their minds are made up.
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)Thank you!
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Thanks so much. They mean a lot.
TheBlackAdder
(28,226 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)Thanks "MF!"
zazen
(2,978 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)This is really a shock to know one. It makes perfects sense. Both organizations fight for me.
One group here keeps trying to frame these people and organizations in a negative light.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)This is two-faced. Now the DNC is OPENLY in her well-filled pockets.
This is NOT okay.