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Gothmog

(144,005 posts)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:59 PM Jan 2016

Des Moines Register Endorses Clinton.... In Presidential Race

This will help http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/des-moines-register-hillary-clinton-marco-rubio


The Des Moines Register editorial board announced on Saturday that it would endorse Hillary Clinton in the Democratic presidential primary and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) in the Republican primary.

The editorial board wrote that Clinton has the necessary experience to be president of the United States:

The presidency is not an entry-level position. Whoever is sworn into office next January must demonstrate not only a deep understanding of the issues facing America, but also possess the diplomatic skills that enable presidents to forge alliances to get things done.
By that measure, Democrats have one outstanding candidate deserving of their support: Hillary Clinton. No other candidate can match the depth or breadth of her knowledge and experience.

The Iowa paper wrote that Clinton is not "perfect candidate, as evidenced the way she has handled the furor over her private email server." But the editorial board said that it's "almost inconceivable" that Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) would be able to "remake Washington in his own image."

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Des Moines Register Endorses Clinton.... In Presidential Race (Original Post) Gothmog Jan 2016 OP
They also endorsed Nixon Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #1
Yes. He won, too, MineralMan Jan 2016 #7
They endorsed her in 08 too. JRLeft Jan 2016 #11
OK. I don't live in Iowa. MineralMan Jan 2016 #13
Sander is no Barack Obama Gothmog Jan 2016 #22
Rather, Obama is no Bernie Sanders. hedda_foil Jan 2016 #25
That is correct-Barack Obama had the support of African American voters Gothmog Jan 2016 #29
"The presidency is not an entry level position." SunSeeker Jan 2016 #2
I assume you voted for Obama?? rateyes Jan 2016 #33
Obama was not "entry level." The Register is referring to the likes of Trump, Carson and Fiorina. SunSeeker Jan 2016 #37
But the Register was taking a shot at Bernie rateyes Jan 2016 #38
No, Bernie is not more qualified than Obama was. SunSeeker Jan 2016 #40
And Bernie has spent much more time in elected rateyes Jan 2016 #41
It was spent as mayor of a town of 40k, and Congressman of a tiny state. nt SunSeeker Jan 2016 #42
And a US Senator. He has 20 yrs more governing experience rateyes Jan 2016 #43
Obama had a lot more qualifications, in addition to his Senate years. SunSeeker Jan 2016 #44
I wasn't trashing anybody. You were. rateyes Jan 2016 #47
Nope, you brought up Obama, insinuating that is who the "entry level" ramark was aimed at. SunSeeker Jan 2016 #48
Oh, wow! WTG, Hillary! lunamagica Jan 2016 #3
Well, I was half right anyway. Blue_In_AK Jan 2016 #4
very disappointed they endorsed rubio. restorefreedom Jan 2016 #5
The presidency is not an entry-level position...then they endorse Rubio????? Punkingal Jan 2016 #6
I noticed that, too. Well they needed a rationale HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #12
That's really funny. Also, note the experience of Obama vs Bernie.. lostnfound Jan 2016 #18
K & R Iliyah Jan 2016 #8
That paper is garbage ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #9
... emulatorloo Jan 2016 #17
mmmmmm shrimp! ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #30
K&R mcar Jan 2016 #10
Remember this, JRLeft Jan 2016 #15
Again, Sanders is no Barack Obama Gothmog Jan 2016 #23
You're right, he's not funded by Wall Street or the pharmaceutical industry. JRLeft Jan 2016 #24
You are going to be sad on Super Tuesday Gothmog Jan 2016 #28
I admit this if Hillary wins Iowa it's over. So there's a good chance it's over immediately. JRLeft Jan 2016 #31
And RUBIO...she's in good company. n/t in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #14
This is a big endorsement DesertRat Jan 2016 #16
So far the trends of 08 are continuing. JRLeft Jan 2016 #19
Hillary's debate revelation on the Flint water problem boosted oasis Jan 2016 #20
A keen Eye for the obvious at best . orpupilofnature57 Jan 2016 #27
"almost inconceivable that Sen Bernie Sanders R B Garr Jan 2016 #21
Well written factual endoresment. Iliyah Jan 2016 #32
All the key Chess pieces, none of the pawns orpupilofnature57 Jan 2016 #26
For this thread Gothmog Jan 2016 #34
Enjoy it! artislife Jan 2016 #35
Didn't they endorse George W Bush. . . B Calm Jan 2016 #36
Every (D) they have endorsed has lost both Iowa and the Nomination. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #39
1%ers got to stick together, don't you know? FFS, the Register is KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #45
"The presidency is not an entry-level position" Ash_F Jan 2016 #46
Bernie Sanders's fiction-filled campaign Gothmog Jan 2016 #49

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
13. OK. I don't live in Iowa.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:48 PM
Jan 2016

People who do will caucus there. I'm just an observer of those caucuses.

SunSeeker

(51,378 posts)
37. Obama was not "entry level." The Register is referring to the likes of Trump, Carson and Fiorina.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 01:29 AM
Jan 2016

Entry level is a reference to people who never held elected office before. That is one of the reasons why the Register endorsed Rubio on the GOP side.

Says a lot about you that you thought that meant Obama.

With regard to Hillary, the Register said, "No other candidate can match the depth or breadth of her knowledge and experience." I agree. I expect the Register will endorse Hillary in the GE, since the Register has already acknowledged Hillary is vastly more qualified than anyone running on the GOP side.

rateyes

(17,438 posts)
38. But the Register was taking a shot at Bernie
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 10:35 AM
Jan 2016

By saying that, and your post seemed to agree with it. Bernie, by your standards then is more qualified than Obama was.

SunSeeker

(51,378 posts)
40. No, Bernie is not more qualified than Obama was.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 02:15 PM
Jan 2016

Obama also has a Harvard Law degree (and was a Constitutional law professor) and was a community organizer and a state senator. You shouldn't believe everything you read in right wing media outlets.

Maybe if Bernie had taught Constitutional law, he would not have said that his Supreme Court nominee would take up Citizens United on "day one."

BTW, Hillary was also a law professor.

SunSeeker

(51,378 posts)
44. Obama had a lot more qualifications, in addition to his Senate years.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:18 AM
Jan 2016

Sanders certainly has more years in the Senate than Obama. But his Senate years were not the only thing on Obama's resume, as I point out above. Obama had governing experience and qualifications, unlike Trump, Carson and Fiorina.

Interesting how people who trash Hillary also tend to trash Obama.

SunSeeker

(51,378 posts)
48. Nope, you brought up Obama, insinuating that is who the "entry level" ramark was aimed at.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 07:52 PM
Jan 2016

I told you it was aimed at the GOP contenders who have never been office holders.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
4. Well, I was half right anyway.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:09 PM
Jan 2016

I figured they'd endorse the centrist establishment candidate, but I thought Kasich instead of Rubio.

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
6. The presidency is not an entry-level position...then they endorse Rubio?????
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:16 PM
Jan 2016

Deer in the headlights Rubio? I don't get that one.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
12. I noticed that, too. Well they needed a rationale
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:47 PM
Jan 2016

and they couldn't really go with, 'the president must think the job is important enough to quit doing your other elected job so that you can campaign 100% of the time'.

lostnfound

(16,139 posts)
18. That's really funny. Also, note the experience of Obama vs Bernie..
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:56 PM
Jan 2016

I honestly think Obama has been a great president, except for the economic centrism and being less than successful at ending Bush's wars. And I don't mean that as a slam; I mean it sincerely. Not perfect as a president, but he did a lot of great things (within the confines of what TPTB allowed at the time). He fulfilled his responsibilities with intelligence and grace, in spite of having less political experience.

Bernie is way more experienced than Obama was. He understands the politics of the Congress even though he doesn't play it. So if they are hinting that he's "entry-level", it's absurd.

ronnykmarshall

(35,356 posts)
9. That paper is garbage
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:44 PM
Jan 2016

it is prawn of the right wing and controlled by fascist insects that are preying upon the lives of The People.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
15. Remember this,
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:50 PM
Jan 2016
The Des Moines Register backed Hillary Clinton, while The BostonGlobe picked Barack Obama, in excerpts of Sunday's editorials posted on their papers' Web sites Saturday night.

The Iowa caucuses are January 3, and New Hampshire's primary follows five days later.

The Globe's editorial board dismissed concerns over the Illinois senator's relative lack of Washington experience.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/15/2008.endorsements/index.html?iref=newssearch
 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
31. I admit this if Hillary wins Iowa it's over. So there's a good chance it's over immediately.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 09:41 PM
Jan 2016

If he doesn't win I will support Hillary. If she loses to Trump I pay less in taxes so, I win personally. This is about my nieces and nephews.

Hillary continues the destruction of the country and planet, but at least she will pick a decent SC judge.

oasis

(49,152 posts)
20. Hillary's debate revelation on the Flint water problem boosted
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 09:17 PM
Jan 2016

her leadership credentials.

"No other candidate can match the depth and breadth of her knowledge and experience." The Des Moines Register got it exactly right.

R B Garr

(16,920 posts)
21. "almost inconceivable that Sen Bernie Sanders
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 09:20 PM
Jan 2016

would be able to remake Washington in his own image."

Thanks to the Des Moines Register for that dose of common sense and reality.

"No other candidate can match the depth or breadth of her experience."

Totally agreed!

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
39. Every (D) they have endorsed has lost both Iowa and the Nomination.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 10:36 AM
Jan 2016

Their batting average is 0.000.


Celebrate all you like. We don't want this one.



 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
45. 1%ers got to stick together, don't you know? FFS, the Register is
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:26 AM
Jan 2016

owned by Gannett. You don't think the marching orders from Corporate haven't gone out??? If not, I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn. PM me for details

Gothmog

(144,005 posts)
49. Bernie Sanders's fiction-filled campaign
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 10:27 AM
Jan 2016

This is a great editorial https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bernie-sanderss-fiction-filled-campaign/2016/01/27/cd1b2866-c478-11e5-9693-933a4d31bcc8_story.html

Mr. Sanders’s story continues with fantastical claims about how he would make the European social model work in the United States. He admits that he would have to raise taxes on the middle class in order to pay for his universal, Medicare-for-all health-care plan, and he promises massive savings on health-care costs that would translate into generous benefits for ordinary people, putting them well ahead, on net. But he does not adequately explain where those massive savings would come from. Getting rid of corporate advertising and overhead would only yield so much. Savings would also have to come from slashing payments to doctors and hospitals and denying benefits that people want.

He would be a braver truth-teller if he explained how he would go about rationing health care like European countries do. His program would be more grounded in reality if he addressed the fact of chronic slow growth in Europe and explained how he would update the 20th-century model of social democracy to accomplish its goals more efficiently. Instead, he promises large benefits and few drawbacks.

Meanwhile, when asked how Mr. Sanders would tackle future deficits, as he would already be raising taxes for health-care expansion and the rest of his program, his advisers claimed that more government spending “will result in higher growth, which will improve our fiscal situation.” This resembles Republican arguments that tax cuts will juice the economy and pay for themselves — and is equally fanciful.

The Washington Post is agreeing with Prof. Krugman's analysis
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