Hillary Needs to Release her Medical Records!

[sabrina 1]

Just sayin' ....

Right?

I mean why should ONE candidate be required to release THEIR records but not the OTHER?

I think this is going to be great for Bernie!

Ageism stinks. As does all bigotry.

Both of our Dem Candidates are likely to be victims of ageism.

Both are from the same generation.

Shame if WE start the campaign of bigotry known as Ageism, and for good reason. Ugh!

So let's not discriminate.

ALL candidates MUST release their Medical Records.

Cruz, we're looking at you too!

Go Bernie!

Edit: Yes, I know Hillary released hers a year ago.

But since AGE is the reason given for the demand for Bernie's, then I'm sure everyone will agree, old people's health can change in the course of a year.

Actually everyone's health can change in the course of a year.

But we're talking about a case of clear AGEISM here!

Reason given for demand for Medical Records:

Sanders is 74 years old and will be 75 years old in January 2017.

Both Hillary and Sanders are 'old', which is a good thing imo. But apparently not for some people.

Hope that clarifies things.

[MisterP]

1. yeah, her record-breaking medical-industry donations

[sabrina 1]

3. Yeah, that too!

[cali]

2. She has

[sabrina 1]

5. I lnow! Was there a point?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

92. how do we know they are not fabricated?

[BooScout]

4. She released them last summer...nt

[sabrina 1]

6. I know!

[whatchamacallit]

11. Hey, a lot can happen to your health in a short period when you're old

She can release them again.

[sabrina 1]

12. Here's the reason given for demanding Bernie's Medical Records:

Sanders is 74 years old and will be 75 years old in January 2017.

So yes, if THAT is the reason, then we need an updated Medical Record from Hillary.

They want to make age a factor? Not a good idea considering Hillary's age.

[whatchamacallit]

15. yup.

[JonLeibowitz]

19. The medical records request is just a ploy to play into ageism against Sanders

Clearly, this is what the focus groups have shown as effective.

[sabrina 1]

96. Then they're asking the wrong focus groups. Everyone knows how old Bernie, it isn't as if

he is hiding it. If anything, it seems to be benefiting him. He reminds people of a wise elder, someone they can trust.

Hillary is almost as old as Bernie, so it's a risky road for them to go down.

IF we were as bigoted as they are re ageism, we would pick up the their talking point and go with it re Hillary.

She's too old to be president! She's nearly 70 and will be close to 80 in eight years etc etc.

And it is going to happen, the Right eg, watching all this, will be asking 'Is Hillary too old to be President" and they can thank Brock for the talking point.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

93. Hillary's nearly 70

[FloridaBlues]

103. Bernie closer to 80

[sabrina 1]

104. You have totally legitimized the point of my OP, thank you for that. Ageism, something we expect

from the ignorant, but then Hillary has employed one of the most notorious Right Wing ingnorant morons, David Brock, to help her run her campaign.

Hillary and Bernie are essentially the same age.

Why do you think 'old' is something to be ashamed of?

I love the old and view the word as a positive when choosing someone for a position of power.

But then I'm a Democrat!

[Duckhunter935]

13. another letter, ok

You do know she did not release the records, just a doctor's letter.

[whatchamacallit]

17. Interesting... I wasn't aware

thanks!

[Agschmid]

18. You weren't aware she released her records?

Good is pretty helpful.

[sabrina 1]

25. Ageism stinks. The demand for Bernie's records was based on a bigoted premise. Period.

[underthematrix]

39. No this is more about the mental and physical health of a Presidential

candidate.

[underthematrix]

34. Yep that's why it's important for 74 year old Bernie

to release his medical records.

[whatchamacallit]

43. And 68 year old Hillary too then. n/t

[cherokeeprogressive]

59. 68 year old Hillary who recently suffered a traumatic brain injury. nt

[Rosa Luxemburg]

94. Exactly

[underthematrix]

61. Thank you BOTH for your comment

[bigdarryl]

7. Umm your late to the party she did that last year in fact

She's the only one out of ALL the people running on both sides who has released a extensive detail of her records see for yourself.http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hillary-clinton-medical-records

[sabrina 1]

9. I know!

[jkbRN]

38. I assure you that is her doctors statement(s),

And does not include all data from tests usually conducted during a physical.

I am against any candidate releasing records to the public, but you should call it what it is, a doctors note that summarizes some health hx and some current data regarding her health.

[Kalidurga]

46. That looks like a letter

which technically is a record I guess.

[TIME TO PANIC]

8. I detect a sense of panic from the Clinton campaign.

Perhaps they're having flashbacks of 2008.

[sabrina 1]

10. Definitely! It would be better to simply stick with the issues.

[TIME TO PANIC]

27. It's all they've got.

I've also noticed they're beginning to recycle memes that didn't quite stick, earlier this cycle.

[sabrina 1]

32. Well, most of the early disgusting talking points have been demolished by now. So what can they do

Well all of the early despicable talking points have been demolished by now. So what can they do other than try them again? Talking points cost money! I wonder how much they paid for the 'racist' 'sexist' failures?

[TIME TO PANIC]

47. Most of those memes backfired.

Many were attempts to marginalize his supporters. This was politically irresponsible, not only did it make us more determined, it also alienated voters she could potentially need.

[Agschmid]

14. She did.

But you knew that already...

[sabrina 1]

28. Once again, the demand for Bernie's records was based on AGEISM. Now if we are to go along

with the 'concern' about Bernie's age, then we must acknowledge that year old records, stay with me here, 'old people' was the premise, year old record of 'old people' are not relevant when they are running for president. I hope it's clear now, I personally would NEVER have asked for Hillary's records based on her age. But since it happened, well, we have to do what we can to calm the 'concerns' of the ageists, re both candidates. No?

[Agschmid]

31. It is tradition for candidates to release health records.

My request has nothing to do with ageism against one candidate or another.

IMO they are both "up there"... But I'm a millenial so what do I know.

[sabrina 1]

35. I'm not talking about YOU. The request I saw here on DU specifically stated that it was because:

'Bernie is 74 years old'. See edit in OP. Once that became the premise for the demand, then yes, if that is what they are 'concerned' about, Hillary needs, according to THEM, to update her records.

[Agschmid]

37. Fair enough.

[aspirant]

16. We need Hills psychological records too

With all this desperation anxiety and tension permeating Hills we need to know if she is truly capable of performing

[Live and Learn]

22. +1000 nt

[Live and Learn]

29. Maybe they could find out what causes her many flip flops. nt

[one_voice]

40. Yay, let's use mental illeness to attack Hillary.

aspirant (2,932 posts)
16. We need Hills psychological records too

With all this desperation anxiety and tension permeating Hills we need to know if she is truly capable of performing

That's fucking hilarious.

[aspirant]

45. You never know when someone reaches a "too much" moment

Preventive medicine saves lives

[one_voice]

54. uh-huh...

and that has what to do with the 'flip-flop' comment to which I replied? I didn't respond to you. But....

.....your original comment used mental illness to get in a political jab. But do continue to try and twist into concern. I see you for what you are.

[aspirant]

60. I'm typing on a computer, what did you actually "see"

Hallucinations maybe prevented

[one_voice]

87. Wow. ok. I'm done with you.

[Live and Learn]

57. So you think mental illness shouldn't be disclosed? nt

[NYC Liberal]

110. It's a disgusting post, for sure.

[sabrina 1]

111. One disgusting thing leads to another. It was disgusting to imply that Sanders was not fit, mentally

or physically to run for the presidency. Someone with some maturity at Clinton's Campaign should have thought about the consequences of such a despicable tactic.

Now it is clear they see what a rotten idea it was. But they are still 'working in cooperation' with one of this country's most notorious right wing smearmongers.

Podesta publicly admonished Brock, or so it seems, too late apparently, or was that part of the Rovian trick to put out there that Bernie isn't fit to run for public office? Who knows, but when you lie down with dogs etc etc.

The way to fix this latest smear attempt disaster is, as many on Social Media are stating, to rid her campaign of David Brock and his Hillary Super Pac, before he and his secret corporate donors completely destroy her chances of winning this election.

Personally as a Bernie supporter for so many reasons, I'm not really going to push her to do that, it's working very well for Bernie.

But if I were a supporter, I would have urged her NOT to trust that pos right wing money hungry smear monger as far as I could throw him.

The Clintons have a habit of hiring these sleazy right wingers, which always puzzles me. Dick Morris was another one. Don't they know any Democrats for these jobs? Maybe not on second thought. Most Dems don't spend their time thinking up ways to lie about their opponents.

They took Morris's advice to deny everything, and look at what happened with that.

I wonder if they aren't being infiltrated by the right sometimes.

Regardless, it shows a serious lack of judgement to trust anyone with a sleazy, unethical record like Dick Morris or David Brock imo.

I can't imagine someone like Bernie ever stooping that low to find people to smear his opponents.

[snagglepuss]

58. Snort

roflmao Thanks I needed that.

[eggplant]

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[Live and Learn]

21. Hmmm, she did pick Alzheimers as the one disease she wants to find a quick cure for. nt

[BooScout]

23. Having lost my mother to Alzheimer's in May of 2015...

I find your post disgusting.

[aspirant]

24. Preventive medicine is not disgusting

[Agschmid]

33. No but baseless accusations of a severe medical conditions are.

[aspirant]

41. How do we know they are baseless

unless she undergoes a through psychological evaluation.

[Agschmid]

48. She did, and her medical records were released.

I guess I'm not shocked that you are just making shit up as you go.

Have at it.

[aspirant]

51. Psychological and medical records, we must deal with the whole person

[Agschmid]

56. Goal posts moved. And still just making shit up.

Again have at it.

Shall we call for all candidates psychological records to be released? Is this a new thing?

[aspirant]

64. New or old, is it a bad thing?

[Agschmid]

66. What do you expect to find? I'm just curious.

But sure I'm down for it as long as everyone does it.

[aspirant]

71. Then let Hills start the complete evaluation to let us know she is a champion

[Agschmid]

73. So transparent.

[aspirant]

78. Are you talking about Hills?

[Agschmid]

89. No, you.

[aspirant]

90. So is Hills transparent too?

[Agschmid]

101. Who is "Hills"?

Sorry that isn't anyone we are discussing, we are discussing the democratic primary candidates:

Bernie Sanders / Martin O'Malley / Hillary Clinton

You know real people, with real names, who have each done pretty good things for us in their own way. I know you won't see it that way, but I have enough respect for the three that I don't resort to petty name calling.

Again the only transparent one here is you, and it's been that way since day one.

[aspirant]

107. Are you transparent too?

[sabrina 1]

53. Then you must object to the baseless claims that because of his age, we should be

suspicious of Bernie's medical condition? I am fine with both of them, I see nothing to suggest either is not fit to run for public office.

But I'm not calling the shots, just responding, once again, to another nasty attack on Bernie.

[Agschmid]

55. Asking for medical records is an "attack"?

Yah sure... Okay.

Good luck with the republicans.

[sabrina 1]

70. You seem to be concerned about it. I'm not, but I am concerned about smear campaigns using

age run by one of the most notorious, slimeball political opportunists of our time. David 'blindedbythemoney Brock.

This smear attempt will probably be as successful as Brock's last laughable failure to 'plant smears in the media' anonymously, when he was exposed by two journalists.

But hey, who Hillary chooses to associate with is not my concern, it HELPS Sanders to see who she is willing to USE to conduct smear campaigns on her behalf.

You are known by who your 'friends' are. Like Bernie, I am way more choosy about who represents me.

[Fawke Em]

85. What's funny is that I'm willing to be Bernie, while older, is in better overall health

than Hillary.

[Live and Learn]

91. +10,000 nt

[Agschmid]

102. Bet all you want, if you are worried about health O'Malley is probably the right candidate.

[Fawke Em]

109. I'm not worried at all.

And I really don't bet.

I'm the one who finds Predictwise a ridiculous site, after all.

I was just making an observation based on Clinton and Sanders' activity levels.

[ram2008]

26. You find a linking of symptoms to actions disgusting?

Sorry about your mom, but the mental fitness of the President is of upmost importance. Remember Reagan?

[KittyWampus]

30. "I believe Hillary may be suffering from early-alzheimers"

you didn't just post a list of symptoms.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

44. Alzheimer's Disease is insidious. My friend's dad had early onset Alzheimer's Disease in his 50s.!

They die of because they literally forget how to eat.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. Who has Alzeheimer's Disease?

Thank you in advance.




Always respectfully,
DSB

[restorefreedom]

98. sympthies for the loss of your mother. nt

[hrmjustin]

42. Sanders should release his mecical records.

[sabrina 1]

63. So should David Brock. But not because of his AGE. That is the premise this is based on. It is

yet another nasty, desperate attempt to paint Sanders as unfit to be president. They MADE it about age, then I will go with that, if you don't mind.

Oh yes, and Hillary needs to update hers, a year is way too long ago to assure Brock, I assume, that she is any more fit than he thinks Bernie is, to be President.

I personally believe that anyone who would associate with that smear mongering, sociopath, at least that is how I remember that slime, who tried to take down a Dem Presidency, does indeed need to be viewed with extreme caution.

[hrmjustin]

67. I think your point is ridiculous.

Sanders appears to be a healthy man and should just release his records like Hillary did.

[aspirant]

75. Release his records because David Brock said so, now that's ridiculous

[hrmjustin]

76. No i think he should release them because the voters deserve to see them.

[aspirant]

81. Did millions of voters ask for them?

[hrmjustin]

83. I thought Sanders and his supporters were for transparency.

[aspirant]

88. I thought the same about Hills,

when can we expect her complete psychological evaluation?

[hrmjustin]

95. Changing the subject I see but I have no issue with you asking for it.

Will you call for Sanders to release his records?

[Agschmid]

106. He won't.

[2pooped2pop]

49. Hillary has a questionable medical history

She is only 5 years younger than Bernie.
She has a record of fainting and a blood clot.
Her records that were released a year ago really were not medical records but told what she ate and how she exercised. They sounded more like the ones Trump bought for himself than actual medical facts.

I don't know what newsmax Is but if they are a reliable source, check out the link.
It says she has a doctor on the campaign trail, that she is often late because she needs naps, that she swooned and had to be helped into her car after her Benghazi drilling. hand tremors? Early signs of parkinsons? Ate her parents living? Wonder about their heslth traits thst might be hereditary?

If they are not an acceptable source, then please google for other sources.
http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/705847

I doubt Hillary really wants to bring up Bernies age and health but I'm ok with it.

[hrmjustin]

52. Do you know what newsmax is?

[2pooped2pop]

69. I said I didn't

And that you should ignore it if it's not acceptable and look for other sources. At least read the post before bitchin about it.

[hrmjustin]

72. Then i advise you to follow your own advice and read before linking to something.

Read the stories they post.

[karynnj]

62. Innocently asking "what is newsmax" is pretty unimpressive

A very cursory look at the titles of articles would quickly tell you they are very far right. Not to mention, the hearing they refer to was in early 2013 - a month or so after her concussion.

She is now followed at least 12 hours a day. Could you show the energy that she, Bernie or O'Malley show each and every day? Campaigning is grueling and it would show quickly if she had any condition that would worry anyone -- same for Bernie.

[2pooped2pop]

74. I only saw the article listed

By itself. And no I could not keep up with that schedule but then again, I am not running for the most important position in the world.

[karynnj]

80. The point - you questioned the source enough to ask about it

In the same half minute to write that you could have looked at content. As a friendly hint, when you worry about a source google &quot the source) wiki" then you will usually get a wiki article.

Here is there's - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsmax_Media

[tammywammy]

65. Daily Caller AND Newsmax now have both been used to question Clinton's health

Id you don't know wa out a source, try googling it.

Jesus this place.

[hrmjustin]

68. And they get away with it. If we did that against Sanders it would be hidden.

[2pooped2pop]

77. perhaps you could google

If these "lies" have been debunked.

[tammywammy]

82. You posted from a bullshit source.

Bullshit source means you have no credibility. If you were honest in your complaints about Clinton, which you're not, you'd at least have spent 30 seconds to find a legitimate source.

[aspirant]

84. Would you consider David Brock a "bullshit source" too

[2pooped2pop]

86. hmmm the pbs article

Also says the medical records were just a letter from her doctor. That's not good enough to get on a fifth grade baseball team. How is it good enough for the presidency?

[mcar]

97. Newsmax is a far RW site

The least little bit of research would have shown you that.

I ask that you consider deleting this RW tripe.

[davidpdx]

105. I think this was the appropriate way of handling the OP

Maybe even PMing him/her and letting them know it would probably get alerted. My guess if the OP did not legitimately know, then he/she would have deleted it.

The post was alerted (not sure by whom) and the jury voted 3-4 to leave it.

[stevil]

50. This was a very informative post

Now I know you are aware Hillary released her records.

[2pooped2pop]

79. yes

But I still question what medical facts were actually released other than her diet and exercise choices.

[restorefreedom]

99. if all the candidates release med recs,

will cruz's include a psych eval? cuz i would be curious/terrified to see that.....

[HeartoftheMidwest]

100. To be honest, I guess I WOULD like to see Mrs. Clinton's medical evaluation.

But not from a tiny, 3 county medical group in New York state ( Mount Kisco Medical Group?? Really?? ) Not that they aren't competent people there in NY, but seriously, with her government health care, shouldn't she have long-standing records going back decades at really large medical centers like Walter Reed?? Or some big D.C. health organization?

To pull out one letter, from a doctor she's only seen for the last 15 ( or 14 ) years...since 2001.

Perhaps she has more information on her other 53 years?

Her "release" seems restricted, partial, and cherry-picked.

And when he's ready, or wants to, I'm sure Senator Sanders will release whatever information he deems appropriate.