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How many of you here would be comfortable being called "Orientals"? (Original Post) Bonobo Jul 2012 OP
I replied there Bonobo san AsahinaKimi Jul 2012 #1
I saw that, thanks. Bonobo Jul 2012 #3
Of course! AsahinaKimi Jul 2012 #5
I think of "Oriental" as something a much older person would say out of habit Lydia Leftcoast Jul 2012 #2
That's how it sounds to me too. nt Bonobo Jul 2012 #4
"Oriental" sounds like agent46 Aug 2012 #6
Oriental means East Asian -KittyKat- Aug 2012 #7
You're correct about British usage - but I gather that Americans use the terms differently LeftishBrit Aug 2012 #8
I think "Oriental" in the American sense also refers to East Asia Art_from_Ark Sep 2012 #13
I heard Tom Anderson say it on Beavis and Butthead Jamaal510 Aug 2012 #9
"Oriental" is for objects, such as rugs and tea sets. ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #10
Nothing wrong with the word--if you want to change the perception, change your out look... get smart Sep 2012 #11
As someone said in another post... AsahinaKimi Sep 2012 #12
I have never thought of the word as insulting Art_from_Ark Sep 2012 #14
Korean girl here juliathesexworker Sep 2012 #15

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
5. Of course!
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 01:56 AM
Jul 2012

I still consider myself Japanese, even though I was not born there. But I guess I am really Nikkei jin nisei. I am also 1/4 Korean, a fact my mother would remind me since she is Half Korean, and very proud of her heritage. She even has mastered the art of making Kimchi!

agent46

(1,262 posts)
6. "Oriental" sounds like
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:23 AM
Aug 2012

a designation that was used by the old British imperialists in the 19th century. Using it now is an anachronism.

 

-KittyKat-

(6 posts)
7. Oriental means East Asian
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 11:06 AM
Aug 2012

I think some Brits may use "oriental" nowadays to describe East Asians because "Asian" means South Asian. I wouldn't mind being called oriental.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
13. I think "Oriental" in the American sense also refers to East Asia
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 02:13 AM
Sep 2012

especially China, Taiwan, Korea and Japan. I've never considered the term to be insulting.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
9. I heard Tom Anderson say it on Beavis and Butthead
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:54 PM
Aug 2012

in one of the older episodes. To me, it just sounds so country.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
10. "Oriental" is for objects, such as rugs and tea sets.
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 08:04 PM
Aug 2012

"Asian" is for humans.

I am not sure about non-human animals.

get smart

(1 post)
11. Nothing wrong with the word--if you want to change the perception, change your out look...
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 01:28 PM
Sep 2012

The Orientals (Latin meaning “east” or “where the sun rises”) are to the East, as Westerners are of the West. The word was not originally used to insult but to distinguish people of the different hemispheres. In fact, it was originally used to refer to Eastern lands and people with riches history, culture, knowledge, and wonders. The meaning of words change according to perception and usage of a time. I believe in modern times it has been settled to refer to people with specific physical features. If I say I'm an Asian would you know whether I'm Arab, Indian, Middle Easterner, or a person with Chinese features? I hear and find it more insulting to call every person with Chinese features (lack of distinction is problematic), whether he or she is Koreans, Japanese, Thai, etc., as Chinese. It would have been more accurate to call such a person Oriental than arbitrarily labeling them Chinese. Oriental encompasses all ethnic group of people that share the same black hair, olive eyes, etc., features common in that geo location. Why should the “Chinese” be glorified or blame for all Oriental looking people’s actions?
I see Oriental referring to a group of people with features typical of those in and from a specific geo-location—it is not a class. Westerner is not a class--it refers to people with features typical of a specific geo-location. I prefer and it is more accurate when someone who do not know the ethnicity of a black hair, olive eyes, slight hint of yellow skin person not call him or her Chinese but Oriental, as Asians do not refer to just the Oriental people. When you stop looking at the word as an insult, maybe due to some past experience, and change the perception instead, then the word would not be you don’t like it to mean. How can change progress if we do not change what needs to be changed.

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
12. As someone said in another post...
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 04:35 PM
Sep 2012

using the word Oriental is like using "Colored" for African Americans. Personally I hate it. I am ASIAN... I am Japanese-Korean-American and my family comes from Asia. Like it or not, that word you prefer to use is outdated and archaic. You can use it if you want to, but among Asian Americans you will not make many friends.. Also you will notice this GROUP is called the ASIAN group, not the ORIENTAL group.

Your choice, just know that I as an Asian woman, hate the word. Oh and welcome to DU, Yokoso!

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
14. I have never thought of the word as insulting
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 02:25 AM
Sep 2012

I have only heard people use the term to refer to the region of the world where I am now living, and its people, but never in a denigrating or derogatory sense. If they wanted to be insulting, they would use a truly derogatory term that wouldn't be confused for anything else. Perhaps it is different on the West Coast.

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