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onager

(9,356 posts)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:03 AM Jul 2015

I Pissed Off A Nun - Katy Perry's Convent

Ya just can't make this stuff up...I think these are the basic facts:

1. Katy Perry wants to buy a beautiful old Los Angeles mansion, which has been used as a convent for several decades. A former owner GAVE the place to the nuns, in exchange for them praying for his soul after his death.

2. The Archbishop of Los Angeles wanted to sell the place to Perry, for a cool $14.5 million. So far, all is good. A straight real estate deal.

3. BUT...a few elderly nuns still live in the convent and consider their order the legal owners. Unfortunately, the Jurassic Nuns saw some of Perry's videos and were NOT amused.

4. Without asking the archdiocese or anybody else, the nuns went and sold the convent to a woman named Dana Hollister. She plans to turn it into a boutique hotel.

5. Because the sale has been duly registered and a deed transferred by L.A. County, everyone is now in the middle of a giant legal clusterfuck. A county judge has frozen the sale to Hollister, with a warning that Perry won't be moving into the place any time soon. Not until the legal ownership is sorted out, which could take years.



http://news.yahoo.com/judge-consider-fate-convent-katy-perry-wants-buy-050456928.html

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I Pissed Off A Nun - Katy Perry's Convent (Original Post) onager Jul 2015 OP
It seems to me that it should be straight forward Curmudgeoness Jul 2015 #1
The original will has to be registered somewhere Warpy Jul 2015 #2
Bribe his way out of hell isn't an accurate metaphor. Promethean Jul 2015 #3
How is this not a form of indulgence? LiberalAndProud Aug 2015 #5
"I Pissed Off A Nun - And I Liked It!" mr blur Aug 2015 #4

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
1. It seems to me that it should be straight forward
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 02:05 PM
Jul 2015

as to the ownership. How can this be a clusterfuck? Whose name is the deed is? Who is paying for the maintenance? Why should this be so hard to determine???

If it was given to the nuns, it is their property. If it was given to the "church", it is owned by the RCC. My understanding is that all property is the church's, but that may not be the case.

But I have to give credit to those nuns for giving the middle finger to the Archdiocese.

Warpy

(111,433 posts)
2. The original will has to be registered somewhere
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 04:12 PM
Jul 2015

and that should determine everything, whether he gave it to the RCC to be used as a convent to bribe his way out of hell, or whether it was given directly to the order to accomplish the same goal. And, as you said, the deed should have the information on it, too.

It's just a question of locating the paperwork from when god was a lad.

Good for those old nuns. I am not impressed with Katy Perry, either.

Promethean

(468 posts)
3. Bribe his way out of hell isn't an accurate metaphor.
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 04:22 PM
Jul 2015

Praying for the dead is tied to an old piece of catholic dogma that is no longer in practice. It basically states there is a waiting period to get into heaven and its very long. Prayers said for someone who died supposedly shorten the individual's waiting period. There are a lot of historical donations to the church which were basically payments to have nuns pray to shorten their wait after they die. Hence why the building donated by a guy who wanted to be prayed for is a nunnery.

Its still crazy BS and basically another form of church extortion but its not strictly bribing your way out of hell. They called that one an "indulgence."

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
5. How is this not a form of indulgence?
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 02:12 PM
Aug 2015

This is an example of a wealthy man bequeathing his camel that he might thread the eye of the needle. I find the idea morally repugnant, and the discredited practice a form of spiritual blackmail.

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