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ffr

(22,676 posts)
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 01:31 PM Mar 2015

Time to plant milkweed seeds for the 2015 monarch migration. Don't wait.

We'll be planting as many as 100 native-to-my-region milkweed seeds around our property and those of several of our friends this year for the first time. Not only that, but each will be a monarch sanctuary that each of our host friends have agreed will be free from herbicides or pesticides.

More info


It takes a minimum of 60 days for seeds to have a plant large enough to support a caterpillars' food needs. You can raise our tropical Milkweed in pots inside your home or greenhouse, and it should survive the winter. If you live in a northern climate and see snow, then request the Speciosia variety of milkweed seed, as it survives the winter's cold. - LiveMonarch.com


Fall migration


Spring migration


Multiple Generations
Generation 1 monarchs are the offspring of the monarchs who overwintered in Mexico. Each successive generation travels farther north. It will take 3-4 generations to reach the northern United States and Canada.- USDA.GOV


Be smart, plant native milkweed species for your region and curtail your use of pesticides or herbicides


To make it easier, see the regional milkweed species chart link below. You can Google the milkweed's scientific name
http://monarchwatch.org/milkweed/market/



Background
U.S. scientists to study monarch butterfly numbers for protected status
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014976129#post8

The fall of the monarch butterfly
http://www.democraticunderground.com/112779346

Plant milkweed to save the monarch butterfly
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023842336

Monarch butterflies drop, migration may disappear
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014712649
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Time to plant milkweed seeds for the 2015 monarch migration. Don't wait. (Original Post) ffr Mar 2015 OP
and dont forget to provide water. mopinko Mar 2015 #1
Advice needed:I live near the Pacific Ocean... fredamae Mar 2015 #2
If you have livestock, you may not be a good candidate ffr Mar 2015 #3
Thanks so much fredamae Mar 2015 #5
There are other sources besides that in the OP ... FREE SEEDS ... eppur_se_muova Mar 2015 #4
I've got a envelope full of local milkweed seed I collected last fall NickB79 Mar 2015 #6
We'll be planting dill as well ffr Mar 2015 #7
Sprouts are coming up. ffr Mar 2015 #8

mopinko

(70,314 posts)
1. and dont forget to provide water.
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 01:37 PM
Mar 2015

i keep a drip running whenever it is not freezing. this attracts as many butterflies to my property as the blossoms do, it think.

seed savers has several species of milkweed available, as well as other good pollinator flowers. saving native pollinators is as important to me as saving the honeybee.
going to do a pollinator garden this year, tho i always have something going for them now.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
2. Advice needed:I live near the Pacific Ocean...
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 01:45 PM
Mar 2015

what species are safe for livestock And can grow here?

We have land to plant many bee and butterfly friendly plants...but I need to understand which varieties...

Thanks in advance...

ffr

(22,676 posts)
3. If you have livestock, you may not be a good candidate
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 02:17 PM
Mar 2015
How It Affects Livestock
An average-sized sheep that eats 30-100 gms of green leaves of one of the more toxic species is likely to die of poisoning. It may die within a few hours or live 2 to 4 days. Although many milkweeds contain resinoids, most of the ones that cause fatal poisonings contain cardenolides (cardiac glycosides). These cardenolides are similar to digoxin causing electrolyte balances in heart muscle resulting in arrhythmias and cardiac failure.
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How to Reduce Losses
Animals usually do not eat milkweed unless good forage is scarce or under conditions where plants freeze, etc. Livestock owners can reduce losses by keeping sheep out of milkweed along stock driveways when bands are trailed from one range to another. Supplemental feeding usually is beneficial during trailing. Hay contaminated with milkweed should not be fed to sheep or cattle. Milkweeds can be controlled with 2,4-D plus picloram (0.5 kg ae/Ac) or glyphosate at a spot spray. Follow all precautions for handling herbicides. - USDA.GOV

You could plant milkweed seeds or plugs in other sandy soiled areas away from your pastures, however. Assume the plants will spread their seeds over generations by whatever means there is for transport.

The Showy Milkweed is native up and down the Pacific Coast, mountains, valleys and inland regions, but there are others that are too.

Consult your neighbors, locals, veterinarians and use Google as an encyclopedia for more information.
https://www.google.com/search?q=davis+milkweed&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=pacific+coast+milkweed



fredamae

(4,458 posts)
5. Thanks so much
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 07:56 PM
Mar 2015

We don't currently have livestock..But our neighbors do, we let them roam our property.....and I do care about that. So, I will also contact our local Extension Ofc....
Appreciate the info

eppur_se_muova

(36,317 posts)
4. There are other sources besides that in the OP ... FREE SEEDS ...
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 04:24 PM
Mar 2015
http://www.saveourmonarchs.org/store/p29/%2425_Donation_%28100_Seed_Packets%29.html

100 seed packets (A. tuberosa) for $25, for example.

Google "free butterfly weed" -- you probably won't find any really free.

Searching eBay finds lots of sources for "Butterfly Weed" seeds -- many w/free shipping and very low prices.


OH HEY == FREE milkweed seeds here -- http://www.livemonarch.com/free-milkweed-seeds.htm
Thanks to Richard D http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026326472

ffr

(22,676 posts)
7. We'll be planting dill as well
Mon Mar 9, 2015, 12:26 AM
Mar 2015

So where there was once nothing for a breeding monarch and black swallowtail, there will be something. I personally don't have a use for dill, so I say more power to them.




ffr

(22,676 posts)
8. Sprouts are coming up.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 11:01 AM
Mar 2015


USDA Plant Guide (Showy Milkweed)

The young shoots, stems, flower buds, immature fruits, and roots of showy milkweed were boiled and eaten as a vegetable by various indigenous groups of eastern and mid-western America.

In some areas the young leaves and stems were used as greens. The flowers were also eaten raw or boiled, and the buds were boiled for soup or with meat. The most common use for these plants, recorded among almost all the tribes throughout California, was to obtain a kind of chewing gum from the sap of Asclepias speciosa. The sticky white sap was heated slightly until it became solid, then added to salmon fat or deer grease.

The sap of Asclepias speciosa was used as a cleansing and healing agent by some of the desert tribes for sores, cuts, and as a cure for warts and ringworm. The silky hairs were burned off the ripe seeds, which were then ground and made into a salve for sores. Seeds were boiled in a small amount of water and the liquid used to soak rattlesnake bites to draw out the poison. A hot tea made from the roots was given to bring out the rash in measles or as a cure for coughs. It was also employed as a wash to cure rheumatism. The mashed root, moistened with water, was used as a poultice to reduce swellings.

Insectary: Milkweed species are attractive to butterflies, bees, and other insects. Accordingly, this is a wonderful horticultural plant for beautiful floral landscaping that attracts butterflies (particularly Monarchs) and other insects. - USDA.GOV


Rabbits and deer are said to avoid eating the plants, but we're not taking any chances. We have chicken wire around where the spouts are coming up.

Might even make a clever sign to welcome the Monarchs to the neighborhood.
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