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Behind the Aegis

(53,939 posts)
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 04:11 AM Aug 2017

(JEWISH GROUP) Dont Come For Jews On Social Justice If You Dont Know What Youre Talking About

THIS IS THE JEWISH GROUP! RESPECT!

I don’t know of many, or any, instances of Asian groups supporting Jewish people in instances of anti-Semitism.

But I don’t assume that means Asian communities working against anti-Semitism don’t exist. And I certainly don’t assume Asians are anti-Semites. I assume that I am an ignorant person.

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Maningding’s site (which I have enjoyed countless times) offers funny, accessible takes on issues of racial injustice, specifically injustice towards Asian people. He clarified in the post that while he doesn’t “condone anti-Semitism,” he does not need to respond to incidents of it because he “never see[s] statements from Jewish orgs” condemning instances of racism perpetrated by Jewish celebrities like Lena Dunham and Adam Sandler.

He concluded:

“ So what’s up? Why do Jewish activists only show up when they want our help, yet they never come and check their problematic peers? They want to be included in the umbrella of POC yet sooooo many Jewish activists won’t even acknowledge how whiteness and Jewish identities intersect.”

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Interesting article. I have seen this before with other groups.

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(JEWISH GROUP) Dont Come For Jews On Social Justice If You Dont Know What Youre Talking About (Original Post) Behind the Aegis Aug 2017 OP
Jews Played A Central Role in The Civil Rights Movement. Ranier (theLAGG) should be ashamed. grossproffit Aug 2017 #1
No it's quite the other way around. EllieBC Aug 2017 #2
You bring up a really good point about The Shoah. Behind the Aegis Aug 2017 #3

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
1. Jews Played A Central Role in The Civil Rights Movement. Ranier (theLAGG) should be ashamed.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 05:22 AM
Aug 2017
In 1964, the Civil Rights Act Was Still a Dream. Then These Jewish Operatives Got to Work:

American Jews played a central role in the civil rights movement from the start of the 20th century. In 1909 the Columbia professor Joel E. Spingarn helped found the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and then went on to serve as chairman from 1914 to 1939. Jews gave extensively to other African-American causes; by one estimate, in 1935 as many as 40 percent of black children in the South attended a school funded by William Rosenwald, whose father owned Sears, Roebuck. In the 1930s Samuel Leibowitz, a Brooklyn lawyer, drew national praise in the black press for representing the Scottsboro boys.

The pace of Jewish support for civil rights grew during the 1950s, as the issue moved into mainstream America’s field of vision and many Jews, with the horrors of Nazism fresh in their minds, grasped viscerally the moral necessity of racial justice. Along with establishment organizations like the NAACP, new groups like King’s Southern Christian Leadership Conference relied on Jewish philanthropy to stay afloat. Jewish lawyers and activists led the charge for fair employment and open housing provisions in the north, while more than a dozen Jews traveled south to participate in the 1961 Freedom Rides.

Jewish support for the movement continued into the new decade and the new presidency. Like other corners of the liberal establishment, the country’s progressive Jewish organizations had greeted the Kennedy Administration with optimism, but also high expectations. Kennedy had campaigned hard on civil rights, and almost immediately the American Jewish Congress and others began peppering the White House with plans to put his words into action.

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/167281/1964-civil-rights-act

Brave and tragic heroes of civil rights

On 2 July 1964, as the search for Goodman, Schwerner and Chaney continued to dominate the headlines, President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, which ended legalised segregation in the American south.

Fifty years on, the act remains the highpoint, if not the culminating moment, of America's civil rights movement -- in which Jews played a central role.

Clarence Jones, a black lawyer who began working with Martin Luther King in the early 1960s, says the civil rights leader understood that enlisting whites was essential to realising his dream. "Of that white majority," Jones suggests, "the most important constituent part was the Jewish community."

But Jews were not new recruits to the civil rights cause. Columbia University professor Joel Spingarn helped establish the National Association for the Advance of Coloured People in 1909 and served as its chairman for 25 years. Jews were heavily involved in the Urban League, formed in 1911 to help black migrants from the rural south, while Jewish philanthropists gave generously to African-American causes.

https://www.thejc.com/brave-and-tragic-heroes-of-civil-rights-1.55457



EllieBC

(3,013 posts)
2. No it's quite the other way around.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 11:20 AM
Aug 2017

Our help is EXPECTED. If we fail to turn out for whatever social justice cause, non Jews will attempt to throw the Shoah in our faces. "Don't you remember what happened to your people???? Don't you care about This Event Which Is Nothing Like The Holocaust But I Will Pretend It Is Because That Makes It Seem That More Awful?".

Meanwhile many say NOTHING about antisemitism or write it off as Jews being easily offended by "criticism of Israel".

Behind the Aegis

(53,939 posts)
3. You bring up a really good point about The Shoah.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 02:16 PM
Aug 2017

Not only do they throw it in our faces, they often chastise us for "talking about it too much". The same ones who do that would never make a similar statement about Slavery or the genocide of the Indigenous peoples of North America. Like you said, they often ignore or even excuse anti-Semitism, especially if it stems for the left. What I found disturbing about the asshole's remarks, were how similar they were to a situation which happened here not too long ago, and the fact when there is outrageous acts of anti-Semitism, we almost never see statements from other (non-Jewish) social issue groups; yet, when something happens to one of those groups, even if the attacker isn't a Jew, we get loads and loads of, "Well, what did the ADL have to say about this?! Where is such-n-such (Jewish) senator's remarks?!" and on and on. And, as much as he complains about 'bad' Jews making racial remarks and the "lack of condemnation for Jewish groups", the reverse is just as fucking true, if not more so! When someone from a minority group makes anti-Semitic statements, people fall all over themselves making excuses and rarely do we see a condemnation from a powerful social group representing the offender.

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