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47of74

(18,470 posts)
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 09:26 PM Oct 2013

A response to a pastor who said: "He should have killed you. At least you’d have died a virgin."

A so called pastor told a young rape victim, "He should have killed you. At least you’d have died a virgin." Here was the response that John Shore gave to that;

Are you are a pastor, priest, or ministry leader who holds that women are intrinsically inferior to men—that women should submit to their husbands, that women are less intelligent than men, less emotionally sophisticated than men, not as ambitious, driven, or proud as men? Do you believe that a woman’s highest calling is to be a good mother, that a young woman’s moral status is tied to her virginity, that women’s sexuality causes men to sin?

If you do believe those things, then I’m begging you to right now resign all of your authority in the church. Get out—and don’t talk to anyone on your way to the door, either. You do not speak for God. You wouldn’t know good counsel from bad porridge. At best you are profound and grievous embarrassment to God; at worst the devil himself wonders at the fullness of the damage you do.

Please just step away from the pulpit. Because surely you realize what a short step it is from, “God designed women to love but be inferior to men,” to, “You should have made your rapist kill you so that at least you’d have died a virgin.” If you do not realize how smoothy the latter extends from the former, then … then gosh, what a surprise: logic isn’t your strong suit.

Well, friend, neither is compassion. It’s not now, anyway. But it can be! You can change! You can learn. You can do the psycho-emotional work you need to if you’re ever going to become a true friend rather than an enemy of God and humankind. You can reflect, think, consider, open your heart to the painful damage I guarantee you someone once did you. You can come to terms with your own powerful sexuality, and in so doing discover not the condemnation of God you expected, but the affirmation of life you wanted.


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A response to a pastor who said: "He should have killed you. At least you’d have died a virgin." (Original Post) 47of74 Oct 2013 OP
I suspect this pastor Thav Oct 2013 #1
Saying "I wish you were dead" is not exactly compassionate, nor is "You'd be better off dead" Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2013 #2

Thav

(946 posts)
1. I suspect this pastor
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 09:34 AM
Oct 2013

would be up in arms about honor killings in Muslim families. Seriously, where do these people find this God that hates so much?

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
2. Saying "I wish you were dead" is not exactly compassionate, nor is "You'd be better off dead"
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 09:43 AM
Oct 2013

And what's the big deal about being a virgin?

Actually, the pastor is saying "It's better for women not to have sex." I wonder if he felt that way about men as well. St. Jerome felt that way, saying that the only good thing about intercourse is that it produces virgins.

I agree with the last sentence of the article, in which Mr. Shore says to the pastor, "you better hope upon hope that God has mercy on your stupid, arrogant soul."

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