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rug

(82,333 posts)
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 08:04 PM Jul 2012

Pennsylvania atheist threatens to desecrate Quran over state bill

By Eric Veronikis| Religion News Service, Updated: Tuesday, July 17, 6:00 PM

HARRISBURG, Pa. — The director of the Pennsylvania chapter of American Atheists says he will desecrate the Quran if the state House of Representatives doesn’t drop a “Year of Religious Diversity” resolution.

Ernest Perce, of Harrisburg, Pa., said he plans to flog the Quran in the state Capitol Rotunda on Sept. 24 should the House not agree to nullify the resolution before it reconvenes from summer recess that day.

Like the “Year of the Bible” resolution adopted in January, the “Year of Religious Diversity” resolution illegally intertwines religion and state, Perce said.

“The Year of the Bible” resolution is being challenged in federal court by the Freedom From Religion Foundation.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/pennsylvania-atheist-threatens-to-desecrate-quran-over-state-bill/2012/07/17/gJQAJfilrW_story.html

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Pennsylvania atheist threatens to desecrate Quran over state bill (Original Post) rug Jul 2012 OP
That would be stupid of him. frogmarch Jul 2012 #1
Wow, what a profoundly stupid thing to do. cbayer Jul 2012 #2
There you go skepticscott Jul 2012 #14
what a moran..... madrchsod Jul 2012 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author rrneck Jul 2012 #4
"Zombie Mohammed" of "The Parading Atheists" is gonna approve struggle4progress Jul 2012 #5
This is Zombie Mohammed. rug Jul 2012 #8
a fortiori, then struggle4progress Jul 2012 #11
It's the same guy?? They really need to lose this loser. cbayer Jul 2012 #12
Atheists should leave desecration to the theists! longship Jul 2012 #6
Pastor Terry Jones got 12 people killed doing this sort of nonsense. Let's let his record stand. dimbear Jul 2012 #7
Amen! jeepnstein Jul 2012 #9
No true Scotsman fallacy. okasha Jul 2012 #13
Also called the toupé fallacy. longship Jul 2012 #17
Disrespecting one printed copy out of millions skepticscott Jul 2012 #15
This seems a pretty dumb move to me muriel_volestrangler Jul 2012 #10
Yeah, so what? cleanhippie Jul 2012 #16
"The Continuing Adventures of Zombie Mohammed" doesn't interest you? struggle4progress Jul 2012 #18
No, not really. cleanhippie Jul 2012 #19

frogmarch

(12,161 posts)
1. That would be stupid of him.
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 08:40 PM
Jul 2012

Like Perce, I dislike the resolution, but flogging the Quran seems an absurd thing to do.

Article snip:

According to the religious diversity resolution, the Bible, and Quran and other sacred texts “impart great wisdom and beauty to believers and are appreciated and respected by nonbelievers as well.”


Oh, really?

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
2. Wow, what a profoundly stupid thing to do.
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 08:42 PM
Jul 2012

I totally disagree with the year of the bible thing, but this is just dumb.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
14. There you go
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 05:47 PM
Jul 2012

insulting people for acting on their deeply held beliefs, while trashing anyone else who does the same. Could you be any more of a hypocrite?

Response to rug (Original post)

longship

(40,416 posts)
6. Atheists should leave desecration to the theists!
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 02:15 AM
Jul 2012

Atheists did not blow up the Bayaman Buddhas. Atheists would not burn Bibles, Qurans, or other historic texts.

Any atheist would recognize the importance of historic texts, and cultural landmarks. Although atheists may not worship the Bayaman Buddhas, we recognize their cultural heritage.

I am a lifelong atheist, but I deeply appreciate the sacred artistic heritage. Whether it is Michaelangelo, or Bach, our culture has a compelling history of religious influence. It is engrained in our culture. That is why I love sacred music; why I love the intricacies of the Bible; why I see that culture is wrapped up in these cultural memes. To destroy them is to attempt to erase history. That's something that pisses me off.

Only an asshole would do that.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
7. Pastor Terry Jones got 12 people killed doing this sort of nonsense. Let's let his record stand.
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 03:52 AM
Jul 2012

This isn't our bailiwick.

longship

(40,416 posts)
17. Also called the toupé fallacy.
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 06:07 PM
Jul 2012

I agree with you here. But, certainly there are not many examples of atheists destroying religious icons.

IMHO, this would be an interesting study. I would welcome such a study. I would bet that the religious are more intolerant than non-believers. I would be willing to change my opinion if there was data that contradicted it.

Which takes me to a question I ask many: what evidence would it take for you to change your mind?

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
15. Disrespecting one printed copy out of millions
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 05:51 PM
Jul 2012

isn't "destroying" or "erasing" anything. Destroying or defacing unique and irreplaceable works of art, whether religious or secular, is an entirely different matter.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,411 posts)
10. This seems a pretty dumb move to me
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 11:33 AM
Jul 2012

The 'religious diversity' resolution includes:

... and other religious traditions, as well as many who claim no religious affiliation and nonbelievers; ...

http://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS/Legis/PN/Public/btCheck.cfm?txtType=DOC&sessYr=2011&sessInd=0&billBody=H&billTyp=R&billNbr=0771&pn=3732


and the bit Pearce objects to doesn't say "all nonbelievers". It looks like bad-tempered publicity seeking.
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