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ANDERSON COOPER: Pastor Worley obviously has strong support within the community. There are some 1,200 seats in his church. Gary said there is a service going on right now.
Stacey Pritchard is one of the church members, she joins us tonight. Stacey, I know youre a defender of Pastor Worley and I appreciate you coming on the program.
Do you agree with his statements that he said on the pulpit that gays and lesbians should be put behind electrified fences until they die out?
STACEY PRITCHARD, MEMBER OF PROVIDENCE ROAD BAPTIST CHURCH: I believe that that was taken I mean yes, he said that, but of course, he would never want that to be done.
Of course, people are going to take it and make it their own way and make it into what they want to. But I agree with what the sermon was and what it was about.
COOPER: But youre saying he doesnt want it done, but he said he wanted it done on the he said it from the pulpit. Why do you interpret thats not what he wants?
PRITCHARD: OK, let me try to say it a different way, maybe maybe thats what he felt like should be done. I mean, it can be said either way, OK, just to make the short of it, yes, I agree with him. If they cant get the message that thats wrong, then they cant reproduce and eventually they would die.
COOPER: So you believe only that gay people are only born of other gay people? Youre saying they cant reproduce, so therefore they would all die off. Arent gay people born gay people get born to straight parents all the time, no?
PRITCHARD: No, thats not what I meant. If men and men were in the same fence and women were in the same fence, they cant reproduce together. Thats what I mean.
COOPER: Right, but that wouldnt eliminate all gay people. There would be more gay people born outside the fence to straight people, wouldnt there?
PRITCHARD: Exactly, but we were meaning the ones in there. See, its all taken out of context and twisted. The main point is always the same.
COOPER: So what is it about gay people that are worse than adulterers who Leviticus points out and people who have cursed their mothers and fathers who should be put to death and promiscuous girl who can be put into death what makes gay people worse than those people?
PRITCHARD: From the bible, theres no difference. But that is what he was talking about.
COOPER: So you believe people who you believe adulterers should be put to death because thats in the bible?
PRITCHARD: Like you said, like it was said, you know, not really, whatever happened, but yes, OK, Im not going to keep answering the same question over and over, yes.
COOPER: So does it seem Christian to you, though, to talk about putting people behind electrified fences and watching them die?
Because I have talked to a number of pastors in the last couple of days, who say, that just doesnt sound Christian, that doesnt sound like the message of love that they hear in the bible.
PRITCHARD: People are once again harping, harping, harping, on the electric fence, this and that. Its about homosexuals, and its wrong. Thats what its about.
COOPER: But you would understand why some people would feel this is wrong to say, I mean you say people are harping on it. Do you understand why people might be concerned? If some people were talking about putting Jews behind electrified fences, I imagine that would be of concern to you?
PRITCHARD: Well, you know, here we go again, nobodys going to put them behind an electric fence.
COOPER: Well, actually that has happened, its called the holocaust. You said nobodys going to kill homosexuals, its happening right now in Iraq. Its happening right now in Iran.
PRITCHARD: Yes, and this is 2012.
COOPER: Right, its happening right now 2012 in Iraq and Iran.
PRITCHARD: And you know what? This is a pastor that speaks the word of God. Anybody can take it any way they want to, and if they dont like it, they dont have to. They can turn around and go on.
COOPER: Stacey Pritchard, I appreciate you being on the program. I know its difficult topic so thank you.
PRITCHARD: Sure, yes. Thank you so much.
COOPER: Thats one of the supporters of Pastor Worley in that town in North Carolina.
http://www.pensitoreview.com/2012/05/27/church-member-supports-preachers-call-for-final-solution-for-gays/
yesphan
(1,588 posts)get the red out
(13,468 posts)These people wouldn't stop killing until half the population of the country was gone, they would have to use old mines as mass graves.
I hope we all wake up to how dangerous this mentality is soon. Christianity in the US has become preoccupied with who they want dead more than how they can help others. Many of them are becoming the evil they say they fear.
daaron
(763 posts)but it's also CORNERED.
Let's not just hope the generational shift will lay this poor rabid beast (RW fundamentalism) to rest -- we must confront it as Americans, standing together shoulder-to-shoulder... Christian, Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, Pagan, atheist/agnostic, ... you know, all of us Americans who care about our nation and want it to enter the 20th century (clearly it's too much to ask it to enter the 21st).
VWolf
(3,944 posts)Cooper's way of saying "you're a fucking clueless idiot" without pissing off the FCC.
skepticscott
(13,029 posts)So this doesn't count, in the minds of some here.
edcantor
(325 posts)don't dance around with poisonous snakes, nor do they teach little kids hate songs and applaud their singing them, nor do they call for the elimination of civil unions for a minority, nor do real Christians ever deny evolution, nor do any of them ever contribute money to the Republican Party, nor to Mitt Romney directly!
Real Christians live almost perfect lives as liberals and post here on DU, often warning about too much atheism and skeptical thought leading to massive wholesale slaughters of all the other real Christians and everyone else religious in the world.
Bad Thoughts
(2,537 posts)Are you trying to discredit that thread by associating the people discussed in that post with those who spread hate?
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)The "original" thread was about how great and awesome it was that religion motivates people. That person wants to make it seem like religion is responsible for puppies and rainbows and glitter and all things awesome but not for the icky things. These threads point out that religion is also the motivation for a lot of shitheads, too.
Bad Thoughts
(2,537 posts)[quote]That person wants to make it seem like religion is responsible for puppies and rainbows and glitter and all things awesome but not for the icky things. These threads point out that religion is also the motivation for a lot of shitheads, too.[/quote]
That's an exaggeration of that poster's position. If the OP here wanted to critique what was written in that post, he could have in its comments. Moreover, he could have done so directly (probably by calling into question the motivations of the people described therein and looking at the consequences of their projects.)
ETA: The title also suggests that it is a continuation of the discussion in the original post, which it is not.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)I'm not literally saying he thinks religion is responsible for puppies and glitter. It's hyperbole.
That said, it isn't far off from the attitude from that poster. I read these posts as satire. And pretty good satire, too. Makes a solid point. Yes, religion leads to some people doing great things. It also leads to assholes doing shitty things.
Couple people did make that point in the "original" thread. And who made you the decider of what people can post as OPs? If people don't want to read them, they'll drop like a rock.
Bad Thoughts
(2,537 posts)And who made you the decider of what people can post as OPs?
ETA:the formating was not obvious on this post. The above was a quote.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)You did question why this OP was made. People can post whatever they want. I'm only talking about what I perceive to be the motivation behind a couple people's post.
Bad Thoughts
(2,537 posts)Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)I use the "excerpt" button for that:
Response to Bad Thoughts (Reply #10)
skepticscott This message was self-deleted by its author.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)But that poster refuses to answer questions like that. He feels that questions like that are "gotcha" questions, and put too much focus on the negative.
Go ahead, post that question to him in his thread and see what happens.