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Eliot Rosewater

(31,097 posts)
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 05:14 PM Oct 2018

Just a note, garbage like Rump cant rise to power without religion.

Just sayin.

Without the absurdly stupid religious borderline morons who are KREEEEEEEEESSCHINS (not all, many, maybe most, not all) you cant have someone like this rise to power.

How many atheists are racists? Misogynists? Bigots?

I am gonna safely say under 10%, how many religious people are these things, WAY higher WAY.

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Just a note, garbage like Rump cant rise to power without religion. (Original Post) Eliot Rosewater Oct 2018 OP
you bring up an intersting question for me edhopper Oct 2018 #1
Religion by definition encourages or requires bigotry. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2018 #2
Unitarianism Major Nikon Oct 2018 #5
Why not gravitate to a philosophy that reinforces your bigotries? Major Nikon Oct 2018 #7
The thing that makes religion unique is its tendency to prep the mind... trotsky Oct 2018 #9
Pretty much. "If you'll believe this, you'll believe anything!" MineralMan Oct 2018 #10
They are blinded by their desire to stop women from getting abortions. gtar100 Oct 2018 #3
And it is NOT about fetus or baby for 90% of them Eliot Rosewater Oct 2018 #4
That's why I call them forced birthers Major Nikon Oct 2018 #6
I think it's more about control than punishment. MineralMan Oct 2018 #8
sure he can qazplm135 Oct 2018 #11
Oh no, not at all. VAST majority of atheists by definition would not be radically Eliot Rosewater Oct 2018 #12
lol qazplm135 Oct 2018 #13
Sorry but you are just wrong. THE CHARACTER traits of someone Eliot Rosewater Oct 2018 #14
I got it qazplm135 Oct 2018 #15
Trump came to power through the Electoral College, an invention of our "Founding Fathers" to control struggle4progress Oct 2018 #16

edhopper

(33,205 posts)
1. you bring up an intersting question for me
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 05:25 PM
Oct 2018

is this true because of the type of people who are more likely to become atheists or religious?
Or does being atheist or religion lead to being more or less bigoted?

Eliot Rosewater

(31,097 posts)
2. Religion by definition encourages or requires bigotry.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 05:27 PM
Oct 2018

If no other form than religious bigotry.

Which religions say any and all gods are cool with them, I am asking, I dont know, ANY?

Major Nikon

(36,814 posts)
7. Why not gravitate to a philosophy that reinforces your bigotries?
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 06:44 PM
Oct 2018

That way they can claim it’s not really about hate and feel better about themselves by letting their imaginary friend do all the heavy lifting.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
9. The thing that makes religion unique is its tendency to prep the mind...
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 10:27 AM
Oct 2018

to accept ideas without evidence, and worse - DESPITE evidence. Many religions view this as a very positive thing: FAITH.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
3. They are blinded by their desire to stop women from getting abortions.
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 05:39 PM
Oct 2018

Nothing else seems to matter. Not the lying, the corruption, the greed, or any of the "sins" they get all self-righteous about. Just abortion. Weird considering this:

Biblical Abortion: A Christian’s View

The devil has done his job well with modern Christians.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,097 posts)
4. And it is NOT about fetus or baby for 90% of them
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 05:42 PM
Oct 2018

I mean there are a handful who believe it is murder, would care for the baby once born if necessary, etc. less than 10%

The other 90% insist on being able to PUNISH women, any and all women, who have sex without their permission. Men like mcconnell or whoever who become INCENSED at the very idea that a woman would have final say over her own body.

Major Nikon

(36,814 posts)
6. That's why I call them forced birthers
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 06:41 PM
Oct 2018

It’s all about making women suffer for fornication as a means of control. That’s why they are also against birth control.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
11. sure he can
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 11:51 AM
Oct 2018

he appeals to:

racists
misogynists
the wealthy and the fools who think they identify with the wealthy because they will be rich one day
those who have or crave or respect power
anti-abortion folks

I don't know how many atheists are any of those things. It's a pretty small sample size. I guarantee you if the entire population became atheists overnight, racism, misogyny and bigotry would not remotely disappear. Humans categorize. Us v Them. In v. Out. We are biologically set up to do that.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,097 posts)
12. Oh no, not at all. VAST majority of atheists by definition would not be radically
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 11:56 AM
Oct 2018

racist or bigoted the way religious people are.

Common sense.

Some, of course, but not most...RELIGION is the BASIS for most of racism and bigotry. WITHOUT it you have an entirely different platform from which people function from

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
13. lol
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 12:11 PM
Oct 2018

"by definition?"

The only thing that changes about racism and bigotry without religion, is the justifications used for racism and bigotry.

Your shit stinks just like agnostics shit stinks just like theists shit stinks.
that it might be in different colors or various aromas notwithstanding.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,097 posts)
14. Sorry but you are just wrong. THE CHARACTER traits of someone
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 12:15 PM
Oct 2018

who does not buy into religious nonsense is different from the type of person who does and worse, the type of person who does and goes out of their way to USE that religion to punish people

There are many decent xtians, for example who dont deserve this characterization but the majority deserve it.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
15. I got it
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 12:21 PM
Oct 2018

your shit smells like roses, theirs like caca.

You're just a better person morally and ethically then they are.
They are bad people who are racists and bigots, and you are just a good, decent person.
You're smart, they are dumb. But they can't help it, they just haven't seen the light like you have.

I mean that's not channeling the worst of the religious right at all.

struggle4progress

(118,039 posts)
16. Trump came to power through the Electoral College, an invention of our "Founding Fathers" to control
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 12:39 PM
Oct 2018

who could chose the President

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