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MineralMan

(146,339 posts)
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 03:30 PM Dec 2017

No Room in the Inn, Indeed!

The MS St. Louis was a German ocean liner. In 1939, it set off on a voyage in which its captain, Gustav Schröder, tried to find homes for over 900 Jewish refugees from Germany. After they were denied entry to Cuba, the United States, and Canada, the refugees were finally accepted in various European countries, including Belgium, the Netherlands, the UK, and France. Historians have estimated that approximately a quarter of them died in death camps during World War II.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis

They weren't alone. Many, many Jewish refugee families were turned away by the United States prior to, during, and after WWII. More proof that the USA is NOT a Christian nation, I guess.
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No Room in the Inn, Indeed! (Original Post) MineralMan Dec 2017 OP
So, what if Jesus returned in that period and tried to MineralMan Dec 2017 #1
Proof rather of persistent anti-Semitism. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #2
Persistent Christian Anti-semitism. MineralMan Dec 2017 #4
So there are literally no non-Christian anti-Semites? guillaumeb Dec 2017 #8
No doubt there are. MineralMan Dec 2017 #9
That was one of the most horrible things I read when learning about WWII. shraby Dec 2017 #3
Yup. Our government, with FDR as President, MineralMan Dec 2017 #5
Goebbels had a field day with that one. Pope George Ringo II Dec 2017 #6
Yes. It was a propaganda boost for the Nazis. MineralMan Dec 2017 #7

MineralMan

(146,339 posts)
1. So, what if Jesus returned in that period and tried to
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 03:37 PM
Dec 2017

make his way to the United States? Would we ever have known? He'd have just gotten a big DENIED ENTRY stamp on his papers and then been sent packing.

Of course, that didn't happen, right? It was just normal Jewish people fleeing death in concentration camps who got sent away, not Jesus, right?

And remind me - Who was President back then?

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. Proof rather of persistent anti-Semitism.
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 03:37 PM
Dec 2017

Similar to the anti-Semitism that might have, in part, prompted the Balfour Declaration.

MineralMan

(146,339 posts)
4. Persistent Christian Anti-semitism.
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 03:40 PM
Dec 2017

Ain't that ironic. A religion that worships a Jewish man/god born 2000 years ago but that hates Jewish people enough to send them away in their time of need. Odd, that. Ironic, too.

Christian anti-semitism is a stain on Christianity. At one time, though, it was almost universal in Christendom. Even old constipated Martin Luther was a virulent anti-semite, as is reflected in his writings.

Anti-semitism in the United States was Christian anti-semitism. Period.

MineralMan

(146,339 posts)
9. No doubt there are.
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 09:04 PM
Dec 2017

The subject of the thread is Christian anti-semitism and the raw, basic irony of a religion named after a Jewish messiah figure.

It's not about Muslim anti-semitism, either. My thread; my choice of topic.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
3. That was one of the most horrible things I read when learning about WWII.
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 03:38 PM
Dec 2017

The death camps were unspeakable but that ranked right up there because I expected better from my government.

Not a word was taught about concentration camps, etc when I was studying history in high school. I had to learn about all of it after I was out of school and got books from the library.

MineralMan

(146,339 posts)
5. Yup. Our government, with FDR as President,
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 03:42 PM
Dec 2017

sent thousands of Jewish refugees away during that period. They were just trying to find a place to live in peace, but were shunned and discarded. It is one of the most shameful things this nation has ever done. The genocide of Native Americans was another. We're not really very nice people, it seems.

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
6. Goebbels had a field day with that one.
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 03:53 PM
Dec 2017

It did a lot to cut the moral high ground out from under most of the Allies. Fortunately, the moral middle ground was more than adequate against the Axis.

MineralMan

(146,339 posts)
7. Yes. It was a propaganda boost for the Nazis.
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 03:58 PM
Dec 2017

"Even the United States doesn't want the Jews."

It's a particularly shameful thing in our history. There are so many such things, though. Slavery. Genocide. Imprisonment of Japanese-American citizens simply because of their ancestor's national origins.

We haven't behaved that well, really.

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