List of organizations (secular and religious) taking a public stand on Indiana legislation

[cbayer]

Last edited Tue Mar 31, 2015, 01:03 PM - Edit history (13)

Will update as information becomes available.

Against

Disciples of Christ
NCAA
Salesforce.com
George Takei and Gen Con
ACLU
Freedom Indiana (coalition)
DNC
HRC
GLSEN, the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network
Indy Chamber (Indianapolis CoC)
Max Levchin - Paypal co-founder, Yelp chairman, Yahoo Board
LGBT Athletic Association
Cummins, the world's largest diesel engine maker
Outsports.com
Edwin M. Lee, San Francisco mayor (ban on all city funded trips to IN)
Eli Lilly
Indiana Chamber of Commerce
Tim Cook - Apple
Seattle Mayor Ed Murray (no travel for employees)
Angie's List
Chipotle
NBA
White House
Eli Lilly
Anthem Health
Univ of Indiana Health
Cummins, INc.
Emmis Communications
Dow Agro Sciences
Roche Diagnostics
Gov. Dan Malloy - CT - no travel for employees
NASCAR (!)
Gov. Jay Inslee - WA - no travel for employees
AFSCME

For

Fox News
Indiana Right to Life
American Family Association of Indiana
Advance America
Indiana Family Insititute
Catholic Church


No position

NFL
United Way of Indiana

[Lordquinton]

1. Daym, full on spin control mode over this issue

You put the 1 (one) singular religious orginization at the top of the list of supporters, then fox news at your hilariously short list of supporters (which is all religious) in an attempt to make it seem like it's not a problem with religion, but instead something that religion is fighting.

You also omitted the law's name: the Religious Freedom Restoration Act

Here's an update for you on your supporters side (from a very simple google search)

Franciscan monks and nuns
Orthodox Jews
Advance America
the Catholic Church

Just from this link

[trotsky]

2. Thanks for the bigger picture, Lq.

Good to get the facts without the spin of someone's agenda.

[edhopper]

3. Also add

The Republican Party, almost every Republican politician, and the majority of Republican voters.

[cbayer]

7. If the RNC comes out with a statement in support, I would be glad to add it.

I am listing organizations that have made public statements. My goal is for people to be aware of who is taking a stand here and what stand they are taking.

Do you have a problem with that?

[AtheistCrusader]

10. I would think showing up for the signing of the bill for the photo op would count as a 'support'

statement.

But don't let your bias get in your way.

[stone space]

4. This reminds me of the Attack on Marriage Act.

You also omitted the law's name: the Religious Freedom Restoration Act

Which was actually titled, in typical Orwellian fashion, the "Defense of Marriage Act".

[cbayer]

11. Of course it does. Let's rename it the Religious Tyranny to Support Bigotry Act.

[cbayer]

6. One might almost think that you want there to be more support than opposition?

Why would that be?

I posted them in the order in which the press covered them. I am sticking to organizations and individuals that represent organizations.

I will add the organizations that you have provided and be happy to fatten up the "support" list with any other groups you might want to offer.

[LiberalAndProud]

8. There *is* more support than opposition.

We should applaud the Disciples of Christ for the stand they have taken and encourage other denominations to do the same, but to pretend that they are representative of the greater religious community is nonsense. The idea does not bear scrutiny.

[cbayer]

9. There was more support than opposition in the Indiana legislature, that's clear.

Do you have data to support that that is true outside of that body.

I've never made the claim that DoC represents anyone but themselves. I am hopeful, but so far disappointed, that other religious organizations will come forward with statements.

I post this in good faith in order to encourage people to support those doing the right thing in any way they can and to highlight who is doing the wrong thing.

[AtheistCrusader]

12. "I post this in good faith"

Thanks for making me choke on my coffee in front of the VP.
I'm lucky I didn't actually spray it, but hey, thanks for the laugh.

[LiberalAndProud]

13. Data, cbayer?

We know from reports that the Catholic and Evangelical churches actively supported this measure to bring it to the governor's desk. Unless you can show me some measure of opposition by organized religion before the legislation was signed into law, I rest my case.

[cbayer]

14. What exactly is the case you are resting?

I'm not trying to make a case. I am just supporting the organizations that are standing up in opposition to this.

It appears that neither religious nor secular groups fought hard enough to oppose this, while those that supported it worked their butts off.

Such is the way that we lose, so let's keep fighting among ourselves while they get what they want.

Great strategy.

[LiberalAndProud]

16. Is there more support or opposition for this bill from the religious community?

Come on, cbayer, it's not a difficult question. Multitasking can play havoc with short term memory.

[cbayer]

18. You know, something really bad happens between the time I type

and you read, because you respond with such a degree of condescension that it's really difficult to have a conversation with you. You think you could tone it down a bit?

As I said, clearly those opposed, both religious and secular, did not do the work that those supporting it did. Also it is clear that certain parts of the religious community were very, very active and had support from their national organizations.

While they were very loud and very successful, I don't think we know at this time whether other members of the religious community were supporting, opposing or just indifferent.

[LiberalAndProud]

19. I apologize.

It just seems that the train of thought gets lost between the beginning of our exchanges to the end. First you tried to confine support for the bill to the legislative body and asked for data. Then it becomes not even about that.

Yes secular opposition was certainly inadequate to the task. /sarcasm
Constantly drawing false equivalencies, blaming secularists for failing to block blatantly religiously biased legislation tends to get my goat. But I do apologize for letting my temper fray.

[cbayer]

21. I'm blaming everyone and now trying to garner support for any and all groups

that will stand in opposition.

I hold those religious groups that fought for this totally responsible and those that did nothing partially responsible.

The only thing I was saying is that it is clear that the legislature voted in favor, but not so clear whether they truly represented the populace. Perhaps they did, or perhaps the populace was just indifferent, but I am hopeful that they were not in support and will wake from their slumber and realize that this was a really, really bad idea.

Constantly drawing false equivalencies? Is that something akin to broad brushing?

[skepticscott]

24. No one would have had to fight to oppose this AT ALL

if it had not been pushed for hard by religious organizations, solely. NO secular organizations (and certainly no atheist ones) supported this legislation in any way. We know you'd like to place equal blame for this on religion and non-religion, because that's the agenda you've devoted yourself to, but it's bullshit.

[stone space]

5. I wonder what's up with the NFL. (nt)

[stone space]

15. Keith Olbermann calls on sports leagues to abandon ‘medieval’ Indiana over anti-gay law

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026423194

[cbayer]

17. Good for him. The NCAA is taking a stand, but it looks they will not boycott.

The NFL is way too tied up in sponsorships to take a risk, imo.

[pinto]

20. (NCAA) Statement on Indiana religious freedom bill

They are headquartered in Indianapolis. The statement's not really clear cut about future scheduling, but it will be interesting to see if there are echoes upcoming in the sports world, collegiate and professional. ~ pinto

Statement on Indiana religious freedom bill
March 26, 2015 1:10pm

"The NCAA national office and our members are deeply committed to providing an inclusive environment for all our events. We are especially concerned about how this legislation could affect our student-athletes and employees. We will work diligently to assure student-athletes competing in, and visitors attending, next week’s Men’s Final Four in Indianapolis are not impacted negatively by this bill. Moving forward, we intend to closely examine the implications of this bill and how it might affect future events as well as our workforce."

- Mark Emmert, NCAA President

[cbayer]

22. Yes, they are saying the right thing, but I want to see if they do the right thing.

Thanks for bringing the statement here.

[cbayer]

23. Kick